I was wondering if I was the only one who made the relation between the silver ring trophy wheels and the billet silver jeep. Looks like you did too!
I wonder how the silver center with black ring would look? I like how the silver separates the black of the wheel and black of the tire...probably better than a black ring with silver center section.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks Shawn! I looked long and hard for the right wheels. I had them pictured in my head and the Trophy's were it!
I actually was really considering the anthracite (silver) center and black ring. I was worried about how they would match though and am glad I didn't now. There is another build thread where a guy did that set up u can find. Or if u PM me I have pics from it.
The anthracite color is just a little darker and duller than the billet. Since both change barred on lighting it's barely noticeable on just the ring.
Something I realized that other new buyers should also note is that a new car comes with no wax on the paint. I bought some nice Meguiar's Gold products with the advice from the guys at www.detailing.com who showed me how to do an awesome detailing. I clay bar'd the top, hood and fenders due to tree sap and other fallout. Then gave it a nice coat of wax. This really made the paint look nice and flake pop! Makes it easy easier to clean now, especially after dust coating from the trails. I highly recommend this if you bought new!
OK, I guess it's time to write a more thorough review on the AEV lift. I really wanted to get some time with it and it's still only about 600 miles on the lift and 1 short fairly tame off-road trail.
I'm glad I waited, because there definitely was a break in period for the suspension and computer to get used to the new set up.
Handling: I agree with all the statements out there that this is better than stock. I noted before the the nose dive during stopping is much improved. It really has no dive even when you get on the brakes hard! Cornering is also much more stable than stock. You have hardly any roll during fast corners. It takes a little getting used to because you are higher and instinct tells you to take it easy. So you just need to build some confidence. Steering is very responsive with the high steer, almost too responsive. There is also no bump steer, darting, or pull. One complaint is that you feel a lot more of the bumps and road in the steering wheel. It doesn't affect performance, but is a little tiring /annoying. Trade off is that this is a good off-road feature because it helps you feel the trail better.
Ride Comfort: I would not say this is better than stock. Honestly after the break in it's hard to remember stock ride. My initial reaction was that it was way stiffer and bumpier. It definitely has broken in and is significantly better and softer. It's still a stiff off-road vehicle and is not a plush ride, but it's tolerable. I would guess it's similar to stock. It could get better as the shocks and springs break in more and if I add steel bumpers.
Look: The look is bad ass. I love the height and am very happy I went with the 3.5" over 2.5". I was worried the 2.5 wouldn't be enough and the 3.5 would be too much. I don't feel it's too much and it looks way meaner than my buddies JKU with a 2.5" TF lift. The OME yellow high steer shock looks Awesome!! I'm not a fan of how the Bilsteins are mounted. I feel they are upside down. The pretty shock body with the stickers is down and hidden by the tire in front and up in back. So you just see the ugly shaft covers. Not sure why they mount up like this, but I'm sure there is a reason.
Entry: It is slightly high to get in. Fine for me, but I'm 6' 3". My wife enters fine and she is 6" shorter. The Grabars are an absolute life saver (or seat leather saver). I can't even imagine getting in with out them and just the Jeep handles.
Noise: There is for sure increased road wind noise due to the height and more under body drag. Tires are not loud at all!!
Gas mileage: It went roughly from avg of 18mpg down to 15mpg. Don't read too far into these numbers as I didn't do a good test as baseline or anything, but It did drop more than I wanted to see.
Power: It was a little weak at first and the shift points seemed off. I don't know if I got used to it or if the computer leveled it off a little better after gaining more data. It seems much better now. Little less power than stock which is expected from the tire size increase. The shifting is much smoother and on point though. The overdrive out shift point is still a little late in my opinion. I would like acceleration power sooner, but this is just for me on OC freeway's. So it may not be an issue for most people.
Off-road: I only took it on a short 4 mile trail in and out. It was very rough, hard packed, did have water, rocks, off climbing, flexing. It was a good test trail, but not too extreme. I did not disconnect my sway bar links. The suspension was very rough and stiff, but this is expected and again will break in the more I max those springs out. Also I did not air down. The Duratracs were extremely impressive. They only cut loose just barely once. Had it in 2x the whole time. Flex and clearance was great. I went over obstacles I was worried I would come close to rubbing underneath and it was never a problem and ate them up with no problem. I'm excited to step it up!!
Summary: The lift and tires meet or exceed my expectations. I am very glad I did my research ahead of time, because it paid off and the reasons I chose this lift are the reasons I'm happy with it. I still have yet to do further Off-road testing and pushing the limits, so I could have a different perspective there.
Feel free to ask me specific questions if I didn't touch on something you are wondering about.
Took me close to 8hrs by myself. Instructions could use improvement, but didn't really cause any problems. Most of the time was spent on drilling holes in the frame. I started small and stepped it up twice. Could have had better bits for that hard steel. Also took my time lining up and marking holes so I didn't have any mismatches. Look great though!
Thanks Jay, you pick up your PSC brawlers yet? Rebel had some in stock.
Not yet... It may be awhile. Just painted the outside of my house. $$$ At least I have Rubicon rock rails.
My friend with the White XJ Cherokee put a lot of money into it. Tires, wheels, bumpers front and rear, Warn winch and rock sliders. On the 4th of July we are going to put a lift on it too. He will also have to trim his fenders and add Bush Wackers on. He's done all the work on it himself. We are hoping to go wheeling on Sunday July 6th. But only if we get the lift and fenders done.
__________________ Jay D Gertie 2012 JKU 3:73 LSD Black Forest Green
So I have been doing some mods lately and figured I better catch up on my build thread.
First up is the SPOD. I actually didn't really want the SPOD at first because I thought it was basically an expensive way to organize your switches and relays. I ended up seeing them at an event and talking to the rep. I saw how high quality they were and how clean the install was and realized how much simpler the wiring would be. I still think it's expensive though! Install was easy for me, but did take some time and was fairly involved to run all the wiring cleanly. One tip is to tape off the plug coming from the switch panel going to the source before you push it through the firewall. Mine got some of the sticky tar stuff in it from the firewall seal.
After the SPOD, I quickly installed some Rigid Industries Dually Spots on the A-Pillars. I used the Poison Spyder mounts. This was a very easy install with the SPOD in place. I prefer the look of the Rigid mounts, but they do not allow side to side adjustment. So the PSC ones are more functional I feel. The lights themselves are very bright and helpful in the dark. I already used them on one Offroad trail and they proved to be very helpful! I do plan on adding another Driving pattern light bar to the front bumper though.
SpiderWebShade in the grey color to match the Silver. It doesn't really match, but I think it looks better than the black. It also attracts less heat than black would. I should comment that it definitely is harder to see out of the lighter color shades.
I actually don't really like not having that completely open air feel. So I usually keep it rolled up almost to the back roll bar as you can see below. Then I can quickly unroll to the front and just throw on the two front side bungies to the footman's when I'm parked. This keeps the seats and interior nice and cool. It definately does it's job of keeping the UV out well! I just prefer open air feel.
Items to come when I have more time to post them.
- aFe Intake
- aFe hi-tuck cat back Exhaust
- Cobra 75 CB
Great build, it's awesome seeing it progress. I just picked up my first jeep tonight. I'm in Lake Forest, so cool to see someone so close by, as well (my office is a block from Rebel).
I have a question on your lift. With the 3.5", did you have to upgrade any drivetrain components or make changes other than the suspension components? Front axle or anything?
Thanks in advance. I'd love to see your rig in person some day.
Xenocom, Welcome to the Forum and the Jeep Community!! What Jeep did you pick up?
I did not upgrade any drivetrain components (axle, gearing, diff, driveshaft, etc.). My AEV lift is a full system that was designed to work with the stock drivetrain components (some are not) and comes with several extra components (Hi-steer, Procal, sway bar links, trackbar). Rebel did however not install an exhaust spacer around the driveshaft despite AEV's recommendation. They said it had enough clearance from the front driveshaft. It eventually melted my shaft boot and now I need to replace it. I have since installed the aFe Y-pipe which reroutes the exhaust above the shaft. AEV said a smaller driveshaft would not be enough to clear on it's own.
If you go to Rebel, they will push Teraflex lift or King coil over full system. Both are great, but I feel geared more heavily toward off-road. I would suggest you do your own research on lifts, tires, etc before you decide and figure out what you want to use your Jeep for first.
I'd be happy to meet up sometime. A great close off-road spot that is easy for stock Jeeps is Saddleback. PM me if you have any other questions or want to get out on a trail!