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Old 01-19-2014, 05:13 PM   #1
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Hey guys, I just recently installed an AEV front bumper myself on my 2013 JKUR & put some ridged industry LEDs & replaced the stock fogs. I've got a 2.5 AEV lift that just arrived & am now in the market for the right size/brand tire. Depending on the weather & time of day I change my mind back & forth between assorted name brands; BFG, Nitto terra/trail(turned off by the 10 ply sidwall), Cooper, etc & also back & forth on all terrain/mud terrain. I'm not looking to go as big as 35 or as wide as 12.50. So I'm looking more in the market of 33-34 x 11-12. If I could get you all's input & suggestions I would appreciate it. I off-road about 1x every 2 months & drive a lot of highway. What have you all had good experiences but more importantly a tire that won't leave the wheel well with too much empty space.

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Btw here's the new bumper

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I have run 3 sets of Toyo Open Country at2's and don't let the e rating scare you. They are smoother and quieter then stock tires. I am currently running those in 285/75-17 which are listed as 34od and 11.5width on the tire itself, they measure a true 33" with 28-30psi. I am extremely happy with them.
Enough so this is my 3rd set .


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Thanks for the input. How many miles do you typically get out of them? Does your jeep have a lift in that pic?
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Thanks for the input. How many miles do you typically get out of them? Does your jeep have a lift in that pic?
2" aev lift. Not sure how many miles but I can tell you they wear very well and even, at least 50-60,000 miles would be a good guess.
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Says the guy w/ the stubby bumper.
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So I guess what is hold me back the most from Toyo & Trail Grapplers is the E rating sidewall. You don't find that to be a problem with gears, MPG, braking, etc...?
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So I guess what is hold me back the most from Toyo & Trail Grapplers is the E rating sidewall. You don't find that to be a problem with gears, MPG, braking, etc...?
All I can say is if you were blind folded riding in my jeep and you had no idea what tires it had you could not tell the difference in a blind test between my Toyos and stock tires. You could tell that one was quieter and that would be the toyos. There is a big Toyo thread on this forum check it out.

a disclaimer if you think you need to run 40psi you might not like them. I run 28-30psi and they are great. If someone stole these tomorrow I would replace them with the same thing.
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Ok, I think I'm over the hump of being scared off by the E rating. I appreciate your responses. My next brain buster for you is with a 2.5" lift..only .5'' more than yours do you think the same size 285/75/17 that roughly equates to 33.8X11.22 would look too small or equally fill the wheel well.

Do you have any regrets on size, looks? It looks about perfect fit to me. Do you get any rubbing? Do you think it will look too small of a tire with a 2.5" suspension lift?
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•••> The Un-official Toyo Open Country ATII Thread

AEV forum has lots of photos of 285/75-17 with 2.5" lift. Everybody has a look they like. I like the way mine looks and would like it even better with 2.5" AEV which will be coming down the road.
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Right now I'm running the Duratracs in a 285/70-17 and can't say I'm disappointed. No issues at all and seem to run quiet. Little slippery in the rain, but that might be any tire in Vegas.

They don't offer it in the 285/75 though which is what I was looking for also.

Lastly, we have the Nitto Trail Grapplers on my wifes rig and while they are a great tire, do well off road, and wear well, they are heavy as hell. Stiff in the E rating (at least on her truck).

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Hey thanks a lot for the good insight. I like your taste haha especially the color. The pictures help put my soon to be lift into perspective. Can't wait to show you guys the final product.
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I lost about 3/4 inch of clearance when I strapped on the bumper & this nearly 100lbs winch. That's what pushed me over the edge to bring back the clearance & slight sag in the front.
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Hey thanks a lot for the good insight. I like your taste haha especially the color. The pictures help put my soon to be lift into perspective. Can't wait to show you guys the final product.
Looking forward to seeing your AEV build McMo. You may want to consider a 3.5" lift with no regrets later. I was originally going with a 2.5" lift but was really glad I bumped up to a 3.5"
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Thanks for the interest & advice. What made you decide on the BFG ATs?
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Thanks for the interest & advice. What made you decide on the BFG ATs?
Made by Michelin, Super quiet, balance out and wear great, a high mileage tire, great ride and handling, and my 315/70/17's don't stick out past the wheel well but still look great IMHO. They are also readily available anywhere.

The AEV shop that I had some of my work done highly recommended this tire for my needs. I am very happy with them. Warning though they are spendy, with AEV Pintler rims and BFG's your in it for about $520 per tire mounted and balanced. Then add wheel locks...

You will find lots of view points on tires and other mods, you just go with what makes you happy. it's your $$$ and you're JK.
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Right now I'm running the Duratracs in a 285/70-17 and can't say I'm disappointed. No issues at all and seem to run quiet. Little slippery in the rain, but that might be any tire in Vegas. They don't offer it in the 285/75 though which is what I was looking for also. Lastly, we have the Nitto Trail Grapplers on my wifes rig and while they are a great tire, do well off road, and wear well, they are heavy as hell. Stiff in the E rating (at least on her truck). 285/70-17 on AEV 2.5"
Did you look into 315/70/17 at all? How do you think they would fair with a 2.5" lift and on a 17" rim?
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I was pretty determined to roll with Duratracs as well, I think they are a great looking tire. The AEV dealership that has done hundreds of AEV builds really recommended the BFG's. I told them I really was considering the Duratracs, they said they are a good tire, but after they get some wear on them they are louder. I have avoided any mods that will make additional noise and singing large lug tires being one, droning exhaust notes being two, and lately I passed on the 50" led windshield/roof mounted light bar. But hey, your $$$ your JK, at the end of the day you have to be happy. Check out tire rack.com for surveys on wet, snow grip, traction, wear, handling, quietness.

Another suggestion, consider the AEV rear bumper and tire carrier. Its rock solid. And will match up nicely with that AEV Premium front bumper. A 34 or 35 inch tire will add a considerable amount of stress to the stock spare mount if you do any type of wheeling.

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Did you look into 315/70/17 at all? How do you think they would fair with a 2.5" lift and on a 17" rim?
The 315's would actually be perfect for my taste. They're a smallish 35 and not as wide as a 12.5".

I went with the 285's because I have an almost 100 mile a day commute and wanted to keep unsprung weight close to factory weight per wheel. I live in Vegas, so it seems like it's an hour to get anywhere worth wheeling at so MPG was a concern as well.

In my mind the 315 is the perfect look without being too wide (I favor the Expo look over big fat tires), but the 285 was the better choice for me and I still think they look good, even though I'm in the minority.

Can't really go wrong anywhere from a 285 up to a true 35", just depends on what you're doing and the look you want.

Nice winch btw, I didn't realize the Zeons were so big until I saw your feet, lol.
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If you like your stock BFG MT TA KM and you are looking for a 33-34" tall tire, check out the 285/75-17 BFG MT TA KM2. It measures out at 33.9"x11.3" so it would be what you are looking for, and it fits a 7.5"-9.5" wide wheel. The tread is a little different and it does come in the E load range, but it should do what you want it to do.
That same tire also comes in a 305/70-17 which measures out at 33.9"x12.2 in E load, as does the Goodyear Wrangler MTR with Kevlar, which measures out at 34.1"x12.2". Both of these fit an 8" to 9.5" wide wheel.
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Thanks guys, I've got a lot if thinking to do. I saw some 285s parked next to mine today & I think it pushed me toward 315s. Also got a 2nd estimate on the instillation. I'm still waiting on a few packages to come in before the install. You guys will be the first place I send the final product.
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Did you look into 315/70/17 at all? How do you think they would fair with a 2.5" lift and on a 17" rim?
I spent a couple of months researching suspension hardware before finally settling on the 2.5" AEV lift along with 17" Savegre's. I wanted to avoid raising the center of gravity too much and didn't want extreme driveline angles that would really reduce u-joint/Rzeppa joint durability over stock. I'm 6' tall and the lift has indeed proven as high as I'd ever want to go with respect to ingress/egress as well.



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The 315's would actually be perfect for my taste. They're a smallish 35 and not as wide as a 12.5".

I went with the 285's because I have an almost 100 mile a day commute and wanted to keep unsprung weight close to factory weight per wheel. I live in Vegas, so it seems like it's an hour to get anywhere worth wheeling at so MPG was a concern as well.

In my mind the 315 is the perfect look without being too wide (I favor the Expo look over big fat tires), but the 285 was the better choice for me and I still think they look good, even though I'm in the minority.

Can't really go wrong anywhere from a 285 up to a true 35", just depends on what you're doing and the look you want.
That's a very level headed point of view and I agree with your thoughts on the matter completely. I finally went with the 315's simply because I don't have a lengthy daily commute to make. If I did I'd have made the same choice you did with respect to size. The 315/70/17 adds quite a bit of weight where you don't want it and can be very hard on the factory ball joints, etc, but they sure do perform!

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Thanks guys, I've got a lot if thinking to do. I saw some 285s parked next to mine today & I think it pushed me toward 315s. Also got a 2nd estimate on the instillation. I'm still waiting on a few packages to come in before the install. You guys will be the first place I send the final product.
It sounds like your heart is set on the 315's. I'd listen to it as I'm willing to bet you won't be happy with a 285. The 315's really complete any "attitude adjustment" you may be looking for. Take heed in the suggestions regarding a beefy carrier as this is a heavy combination and clearly a bit too much for the factory hinges. I couldn't be happier with AEV's piece transferring the load to the frame instead of the failure prone (when overstressed) factory hinges.



Good luck in your decision making!

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Great looking bumper! Let's get that lift going. I am tired if making your jeep look small!
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It's about time you start talking shit! Let me guess...long time listener, first time caller?
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Great idea on the thread - good info.... I'd say you are on track. Like the guy said, and I agree - I think you would be disappointed yes with anything less than the 315s. What's a few MPG. Throw caution to the wind and run with it.
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Well I ended up going with 5x 315/70/17 Nitto Trail Grappler M/T. They're D rated & were the same price for the Duratracs. I liked the Nitto's better.
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I spent a couple of months researching suspension hardware before finally settling on the 2.5" AEV lift along with 17" Savegre's. I wanted to avoid raising the center of gravity too much and didn't want extreme driveline angles that would really reduce u-joint/Rzeppa joint durability over stock. I'm 6' tall and the lift has indeed proven as high as I'd ever want to go with respect to ingress/egress as well.





That's a very level headed point of view and I agree with your thoughts on the matter completely. I finally went with the 315's simply because I don't have a lengthy daily commute to make. If I did I'd have made the same choice you did with respect to size. The 315/70/17 adds quite a bit of weight where you don't want it and can be very hard on the factory ball joints, etc, but they sure do perform!



It sounds like your heart is set on the 315's. I'd listen to it as I'm willing to bet you won't be happy with a 285. The 315's really complete any "attitude adjustment" you may be looking for. Take heed in the suggestions regarding a beefy carrier as this is a heavy combination and clearly a bit too much for the factory hinges. I couldn't be happier with AEV's piece transferring the load to the frame instead of the failure prone (when overstressed) factory hinges.



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My line of thinking really followed the same logic as Tob. I think 2.5 was as high as I wanted to go. It looks great, performs great and even though I'm 6'2 with 36" inseam the ingress/egress can get old sometimes. Any higher would be a problem for my wife to get in, and she complains enough with the 2.5.

The 315's definitely was a hand wringer for me. I was worried about power loss, but it's really okay. (3.73's - manual) I think I might go back to 285's when these wear out. I think they look fine on a 2.5 lift, but you know how it is... I didn't want to always be wishing I had gone bigger... so I got the 315's.
From a power standpoint 3.73 manual is equivalent to 4.56 auto. So power is not a problem, and 6th gear is great for cruising 75+ and retaining a modicum of fuel efficiency (15 winter / 17+ summer) If I upgraded to 4.10's I'd have a little more power, but may sacrifice MPG and for the cost of re gearing maybe not a good choice. But dropping back to 285's would cost less, improve performance, better MPG's, and IMHO not lose much in appearance. So...
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Thanks for the input. I knew I would have been mad at myself if I went too small especially initially. Looking forward to sending you guys the finished product.

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