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Old 04-02-2013, 06:15 PM   #361
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The tailgate area is sloppy because you didn't put the tailgate bar on. You're supposed to take the bar off the window and slide it onto the ridge on the boot, and then it will hold the boot nice and taut against the tailgate.
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Did you happen to try the tail gate bar? I didn't see that mentioned in the directions. Hmmmmmm!
And this reminder....

I added the tailgate bar to the soft top boot and it is much better looking.

Thanks jwilson for the tip.

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Much better! That's how my 08 looked and 13 will once I a) get the soft top on, b) get the soft top boot, and c) get the top folded down.


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Old 04-03-2013, 12:51 PM   #363
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Armed with this knowledge....


And this reminder....

I added the tailgate bar to the soft top boot and it is much better looking.

Thanks jwilson for the tip.

From this:



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Well holy cow, that looks much better! Guess you know what I'm fixing to go do!
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I got my OEM replica mirrors mounted up to my Bestop Element doors tonight.







These things are nice, and unbeatable at $60 for the pair. The finish matches perfectly with the doors and they're solid.

I did a more detailed write-up on my Element doors review thread.
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Like the mirrors Ryan, listen I spoke with some guys at DT today about the MT/Rs. This isn't the first time I've heard this but.. they said that the tire wears very quickly and un-evenly in the asymmetric part (i.e. the part of the tread that is the smallest in depth). This creates funky wear and balancing issues, is there any truth to this? I've owned KM2s before but not MT/Rs, I'm still on the fence on either.
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Like the mirrors Ryan, listen I spoke with some guys at DT today about the MT/Rs. This isn't the first time I've heard this but.. they said that the tire wears very quickly and un-evenly in the asymmetric part (i.e. the part of the tread that is the smallest in depth). This creates funky wear and balancing issues, is there any truth to this? I've owned KM2s before but not MT/Rs, I'm still on the fence on either.
That's the first I've heard of this.

I did quite a bit of research trying to find the right tires and my reading trended toward mostly positive. I believe if one is diligent with tire rotations and balancing issues will be avoided. That goes with any tire IMO.

The folks at my local DT praised the MTR highly when I was deciding between the KM2 and MTR. It is a very popular tire and I'd be surprised if there were wholesale wear issues with the tire with this many out there and reviewed mostly positive.

If you want to read for days Google MTR vs KM2. There are endless threads on tons of forums hashing it out between those two tires. It seems to be a very popular comparison since they're both good, light, effective tires.
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That's the first I've heard of this.

I did quite a bit of research trying to find the right tires and my reading trended toward mostly positive. I believe if one is diligent with tire rotations and balancing issues will be avoided. That goes with any tire IMO.

The folks at my local DT praised the MTR highly when I was deciding between the KM2 and MTR. It is a very popular tire and I'd be surprised if there were wholesale wear issues with the tire with this many out there and reviewed mostly positive.

If you want to read for days Google MTR vs KM2. There are endless threads on tons of forums hashing it out between those two tires. It seems to be a very popular comparison since they're both good, light, effective tires.
This is what I was thinking too. I would like to get them this go around. I've never owned them but I'd be happy with either the km2s or them honestly. Both are fantastic MTs.

Ok, send me some more pics of them on the tungsten wheels and it may push me to the good ole order button here on my computer. Wait...Imma gonna hide the credit card while you respond to this.
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I talked to my local 4x4 shop about the MT/Rs and they said the MT/Rs held up better than the KM2s from what they had seen. I trust their opinion.
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How long will these new doors be on before you look at the area where the tan part of the dash is right next to the front fender? Ooooh, not a great match!

Shall I help with the dash removal and painting project? Try to match, or to contrast?

FWIW, I completely agree with your assessment on tires. With proper care (rotation, correct alignment/balance, correct pressure), any tire will wear at least to its expectation, if not longer.
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How long will these new doors be on before you look at the area where the tan part of the dash is right next to the front fender? Ooooh, not a great match!

Shall I help with the dash removal and painting project? Try to match, or to contrast?

FWIW, I completely agree with your assessment on tires. With proper care (rotation, correct alignment/balance, correct pressure), any tire will wear at least to its expectation, if not longer.
Looks like a job for plasti-dip.
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That saddle brown is actually part of the contrast I like. I've been going with a green/brown/black theme in mind from the start. Some Coyote colored Trek Armor seat covers are on my wish list.

I just wish Bestop would get the rear matte Element doors out to vendors so I can install them!
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Have you seen the body armor trail doors? I used to own a pair and thought they were really nice.
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Have you seen the body armor trail doors? I used to own a pair and thought they were really nice.
I have seen and was very close to choosing them. My decision came down to the BA Trail Doors or the Bestop Elements.

I liked the expansion possibilities and add-ons available for the Element doors so I went this route. I'll be adding the bags soon to the doors.
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That saddle brown is actually part of the contrast I like. I've been going with a green/brown/black theme in mind from the start. Some Coyote colored Trek Armor seat covers are on my wish list.

I just wish Bestop would get the rear matte Element doors out to vendors so I can install them!
You will love the Coyote TrekArmors with your Jeep combo. Mine is white, but I also liked the black/tan accent. Plus they match all the other Molle stuff you have in back...
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I decided to give the Rugged Ridge Soft Top Boot a try since I tire of messing with all the fabric back there when my top is dropped. It really gets in the way of the trunk area.

The boot really does a decent job of tidying things up back there. It was a hassle installing for the first time but I think the time will shorten drastically with each subsequent installation. There is a certain learning curve involved the first time.

I can see it ripping over time after weathering a bit. We'll see how it holds up. There is a lot of pressure on the very top, back corners where the hard pieces of the soft top header back poke into the boot.

On to the pictures!

I had to put some weight on the top to get the boot tabs seated under the belt line lip.





This is sort of sloppy along the tailgate.



Look at all the fabric in that boot!



A little cleaner back there.

Which boot is this? the one on Quadratec (12104.51) says it's for a 2007-2010 only.

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Which boot is this? the one on Quadratec (12104.51) says it's for a 2007-2010 only.

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I noticed the same thing, but took the plunge based on seeing the boot work on kramer's 2013 with premium top, which is exactly what I have. I think they just haven't updated the product info since for sure the 11 and 12 tops are exactly the same as 10 other than slightly bigger windows, which wouldn't affect the top boot.
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:58 AM   #377
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Which boot is this? the one on Quadratec (12104.51) says it's for a 2007-2010 only.

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Hey Mike, that is in fact the one I ordered. Grabbed mine from Amazon for $62.
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I was pleasantly surprised when Jason notified me earlier this week that my Safari Straps and Teraflex Hi-Lift mount (ordered March 11) were on their way.

I installed both and bathed up the Jeep for tomorrow's ride south to Jeep Beach.

First up are the Safari Straps. These things are primo materials and craftsmanship upon initial inspection.

I did the two side windows first and then moved onto the rear. It was a very straightforward job and I absolutely love the outcome. I think it's going to cut the turbulence some and keep passers-by with grabby hands from reaching in. And they just look badass IMO.









Next I installed the Teraflex Hi-Lift mount. Again, very easy job.

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All cleaned up ready to ride in the morning.

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Those new straps look great. Excellent looking build.
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krammer, I love you jeep btw... I'm thinking about getting the bushwacker fender, Only one thing is stopping me. heard they're mostly held on with 3m tape... Do you like yours? sturdy?
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krammer, I love you jeep btw... I'm thinking about getting the bushwacker fender, Only one thing is stopping me. heard they're mostly held on with 3m tape... Do you like yours? sturdy?
Thanks ok8000!

They're definitely not mostly held on with tape. The tape is just to create a nice seamless bond to the paint. It keeps muck out from behind the flares. They're held on mostly with plenty of screws, and they are indeed very sturdy. They turned out to be one of my favorite mods, second probably to my JCR sliders.
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They're definitely not mostly held on with tape. The tape is just to create a nice seamless bond to the paint. It keeps muck out from behind the flares. They're held on mostly with plenty of screws, and they are indeed very sturdy. They turned out to be one of my favorite mods, second probably to my JCR sliders.
Thanks! another question for you, I see you took the plunge on the 700 dollar teraflex tire carrier system, That a deff mod for me but near the back of my list ATM. The fact that you havent changed your rear bumper is whats keeping me from putting that as my next mod and instead moving it to the back of the list oh great jeep guru haha... Any reason why you haven't done that yet?
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Thanks! another question for you, I see you took the plunge on the 700 dollar teraflex tire carrier system, That a deff mod for me but near the back of my list ATM. The fact that you havent changed your rear bumper is whats keeping me from putting that as my next mod and instead moving it to the back of the list oh great jeep guru haha... Any reason why you haven't done that yet?
Just priorities I suppose. I was wanting to do other mods before the rear bumper since it isn't a limiter or me or adds any function. Seeing various bumpers in person at Jeep Beach was nice. It'll be a purchase soon.
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Jeep breakage!

As I mentioned in the JB thread, I flipped my sway bar while electronically disconnected on the level 3 obstacle course. The passenger side flipped when extended and sheared off against the drag link when compressed.





I didn't find the problem until I inspected everything because I couldn't get my sway bar to reconnect. It was pissing me off! Well now I see why it wouldn't reconnect. The pass. Side link was resting against the drag link.

I zip tied it to the shackle on my bumper and it eventually reconnected and it taut against the bumper.



I'll run this way back to Jax since it's basically mimicking the connected functionality. I found a guy from RK here at Jeep Beach and be said call them up tomorrow to get fixed up. I'll opt to go with some longer sway bar links this time.
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how are you getting your soft top tucked so low before adding the slip?

it seems like you have a strap at the end of the brackets for the top?
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how are you getting your soft top tucked so low before adding the slip?

it seems like you have a strap at the end of the brackets for the top?
I'm not sure if mine is particularly low or not. I do take care when folding it down to make it as neat and streamlined as possible. I'm not sure what straps you're talking about. Are you talking about the pieces of plastic close to the end of the bars near the rear doors? Those are the plastic pieces that mount to the door surrounds over the rear doors.
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Great looking Jeep! Not a JKU fan, but I think I am becoming one...
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Here's a few pictures from Jeep Beach 2013. There are tons in the JB threads in the Florida sub-forum but I wanted to preserve some of my own in this thread for posterity's sake.

I messed up and waited until the afternoon course session thinking it would be less crowded. Not so much. LOL The line was loooong and took forever.



Took the level 3 (of 4) run and it was a lot of fun. My wife really dug it and got a taste of the off road stuff. She's ready for another trip off road already.







"Mike's Hill" -- so named for a member of the Mid-Florida Jeep Club that passed away -- looked menacing from afar.



Lady blocking the shot :/ My turn.



I ran in 4L, disconnected sway bar, but not locked. It walked up and over with ease.
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i can't describe it. i will take a picture of mine and post back.

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I'm not sure if mine is particularly low or not. I do take care when folding it down to make it as neat and streamlined as possible. I'm not sure what straps you're talking about. Are you talking about the pieces of plastic close to the end of the bars near the rear doors? Those are the plastic pieces that mount to the door surrounds over the rear doors.
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I have to post here and sing the praises of Justin at Rock Krawler. I posted Sunday about my mishap and how I broke my sway bar link. Well I spoke with Justin today and he's sending me out a replacement unit for free! I never expected such a thing since it was obviously my fault that it broke. A huge thank you to Justin and the RK guys.

I ordered the GenRight aluminum rear bumper for my Jeep from Jason at KOR today. I'll be updating this thread with those details when that installation happens. I'm excited about that project since the plastic rear bumper is one of the last pieces of stock material that is very obvious when looking at my Jeep on the outside. I'm ready for that ugly thing to be gone!

I have a welder coming by Thursday to finish up a few welding tasks that I've been holding off on for too long. I'll get my Synergy upper C gussets welded in and my EVO rear LCA skids welded in.

Pics of the prep work I've done. Today I'll grind down the edges and clean up everything to accept the welds cleanly.

Jeep on jack stands and springs removed.



Test fitting the upper Cs in place...






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