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Old 10-09-2012, 11:30 AM   #31
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Does the BS on the wheels and the 35" tires work OK with the stock fender flares at full articulation? I'm going 35" also but the fender flares are last on my list to change out or cut.

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These wheels will work just fine with the stock fender flares. It all depends on how you bumpstop it. I chose to go with a shorter bumpstop because I'll be changing out the stock fender flares. I think Jason put 2" bumpstops front and rear for me. So if I go full flex I will hit my fender flares. I know not to do that for right now though.

You can add a small amount higher bumpstop and you're just fine. You won't mash up your stock plastic.

The front air dam (crash bar cover / E-Disco cover) will need to be removed or trimmed though. At the tire place they brough me over to my Jeep and showed me how the tires would have tore it to pieces at a slight turn. I told them to remove it. The popped the 6 plastic rivets out and I tossed in the back of my Jeep. It's now sitting on my garage floor. I may trim it and put it back on for now.

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Old 10-09-2012, 11:33 AM   #32
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Where did they use the weights ?
Just inside the wheel face where you traditionally see sticky weights. I made sure they were aware of the potential rubbing issues on the caliper. They just slightly clear the calipers. Funny you mention it though. I had to take my spare back to DT Saturday morning to get my spare weights changed because they stacked a couple weights.

I specifically told them they couldn't stack the weights. Thankfully it was only on the spare in which they did that.

I'll take a picture of the weights tonight and post it up.

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Just inside the wheel face where you traditionally see sticky weights. I made sure they were aware of the potential rubbing issues on the caliper. They just slightly clear the calipers. Funny you mention it though. I had to take my spare back to DT Saturday morning to get my spare weights changed because they stacked a couple weights.

I specifically told them they couldn't stack the weights. Thankfully it was only on the spare in which they did that.

I'll take a picture of the weights tonight and post it up.
DT said to static balance them which is how I think yours is done.

These guys said they would not balance that way and went dynamic.
I have weights on the inside closest to the face and the inner lip.
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Just a question I've always wondered (from one still waiting to order):

What do you do with the old wheels/tires?

It's hard to wrap my mind around spending $2k+ more on 5 wheels/tires without some (big) price offset for the already good ones you have on stock.


Congrats, your Jeep looks great!
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What do you do with the old wheels/tires?
Sell them.

I sold my Rubicon springs and shocks last night for $250 via Craigslist. I have my wheels and tires on there as well. Have gotten plenty of interest so far.
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I'm looking into picking up a C gusset kit.

Are they all pretty much created equally? I've looked at the kits from EVO, Artec, and Synergy Suspension. They all look to be the same design. I'm leaning towards the SS kit at $65. It is 1/4" steel, whereas I saw others at 3/16".

And can these be installed with the axles in place? Can I just remove the tires and protect the delicate bits (shocks, brake/ABS lines, etc) and have the welder do his thing? Any specific notes I could pass on to the welder to make the job better?
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Sell them.

I sold my Rubicon springs and shocks last night for $250 via Craigslist. I have my wheels and tires on there as well. Have gotten plenty of interest so far.
Cool I didn't know if the dealership or discount tire considers purchasing them from you.
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I finished up with the tailgate cover (tramp stamp) project this evening.

I saw the Swag Off-Road tailgate cover in another thread a couple months ago and it immediately caught my eye.

You may notice I also added 2 mini Vector Off-Road UFOs and a electrical delete UFO as well to clean things up.

I had a guy here in town do a little paint work on it and here is the outcome...

This is the before picture, showing the OEM vent hole cover


I added some rubber weather stripping to ensure water doesn't leak into the tailgate. I left the bottom open to allow air to continue to escape.


And here is the cover all buttoned up.


I also got inspired to tend to the unsightly exhaust after seeing a thread today on painting it. I picked up some flat black engine paint and painted it.

Here is the before...


No more silver!


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I finished up with the tailgate cover (tramp stamp) project this evening.

I saw the Swag Off-Road tailgate cover in another thread a couple months ago and it immediately caught my eye.

You may notice I also added 2 mini Vector Off-Road UFOs and a electrical delete UFO as well to clean things up.

I had a guy here in town do a little paint work on it and here is the outcome...

This is the before picture, showing the OEM vent hole cover

I added some rubber weather stripping to ensure water doesn't leak into the tailgate. I left the bottom open to allow air to continue to escape.

And here is the cover all buttoned up.

I also got inspired to tend to the unsightly exhaust after seeing a thread today on painting it. I picked up some flat black engine paint and painted it.

Here is the before...

No more silver!
Looks good man. Gotta get out together soon.
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Eesh, not a chance mate. I can appreciate Jeepers going with black wheels though, so I'm not just writing you off. I was explicitly against black wheels from the get-go. I know a lot of people are fans of black wheels, especially on this color, but they tend to get lost in the overall view of the Jeep and clash against the tires IMO. Black Rock Vipers are also available in black for those that are curious. But again, I wanted the contrast between the gray wheels and black rubber that these provide, while at the same time accentuating the big rubber look of a 35" tire against a 15" wheel.
Interesting. Thanks for clarifying.
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My AEV ProCal comes in the mail today so I'll be changing some settings tonight.

I'll also start the Rubi rail and pinch seam trimming project.

I just ordered a Tuffy Underseat Drawer and Synergy Suspension C Gussets so that will be a project for the weekend if they arrive by then.

BTW, rear bumper research is becoming overwhelming!
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BTW, rear bumper research is becoming overwhelming!
Call me tonight and I'll find the thread I marked in the TJ forum about custom built bumpers. A small US-based company is building to spec for dirt cheap. I'd imagine they can do JK too. Too hard to find on the phone app
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Call me tonight and I'll find the thread I marked in the TJ forum about custom built bumpers. A small US-based company is building to spec for dirt cheap. I'd imagine they can do JK too. Too hard to find on the phone app
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Kramer you going to let this guy talk to me like this ? Lol
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Kramer you going to let this guy talk to me like this ? Lol
"Grandpa"

That was pretty funny. Good for the lulz at least. Maybe he didn't recognize the sarcastic font in which your post was made.
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AEV ProCal

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They really make the thing idiot proof. I set my tires to 34". I thought they would have been closer to 34.5".

I set the TPMS to 24, as I'll be lowering my tire pressure from 32 to 28. They're riding a bit hard right now, I think a little lower pressure may help.

I set the axle ratio to 4.10:1, which I don't think I needed to do. But I wasn't sure if the shift points would translate over after a tire setting change. Or if the two have anything to do with each other.

I turned daylight running lights on coming from my fogs and the turn signals.

One-touch lane change was actually already activated on my Jeep, so I didn't have to make any changes there.
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Just razzin the razzer
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I set the TPMS to 24, as I'll be lowering my tire pressure from 32 to 28. They're riding a bit hard right now, I think a little lower pressure may help.
Have you heard about setting tire pressure by marking the tires with a tire label wax stick and adjusting air pressure when it wears off evenly? Never tried it but heard it is the best way to set psi
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Have you heard about setting tire pressure by marking the tires with a tire label wax stick and adjusting air pressure when it wears off evenly? Never tried it but heard it is the best way to set psi
I've never heard of this method.

Though I have heard of the chalk test method and a co-worker was telling me about the soap method (or wet towel method). He said he wets a towel and lays it on the driveway. He backs over it and examines the tire tread marks on the driveway. I suppose they all do the same thing.

At present I don't have all the treads touching my driveway, which lends me to believe they're overinflated it.
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I've never heard of this method.

Though I have heard of the chalk test method and a co-worker was telling me about the soap method (or wet towel method). He said he wets a towel and lays it on the driveway. He backs over it and examines the tire tread marks on the driveway. I suppose they all do the same thing.

At present I don't have all the treads touching my driveway, which lends me to believe they're overinflated it.
Chalk test works ok. I get even tread contact at around 21 which I feel Is too low. I run around 25-26
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I set the TPMS to 24, as I'll be lowering my tire pressure from 32 to 28. They're riding a bit hard right now, I think a little lower pressure may help.
I'm happy to report back that lowering the pressure really helped. My drive to work this morning was noticeably better. The Jeep isn't tracking as bad and it feels softer and not so harsh on bumps.

I think I may actually go a bit lower to something like 25-26 like KJeeper. That may be the sweet spot for these tires as well.

But I did get a traction control light that kicked on about a mile from work. That happened when I took it to the dealer last weekend but they said it kicked back off after they restarted it. I'm not sure what caused that to turn on.
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I'm happy to report back that lowering the pressure really helped. My drive to work this morning was noticeably better. The Jeep isn't tracking as bad and it feels softer and not so harsh on bumps.

I think I may actually go a bit lower to something like 25-26 like KJeeper. That may be the sweet spot for these tires as well.

But I did get a traction control light that kicked on about a mile from work. That happened when I took it to the dealer last weekend but they said it kicked back off after they restarted it. I'm not sure what caused that to turn on.
You have Bilsteins huh?

The TC light can turn out if you hit a corner to fast or pull out of a Driveway or parking lot to fast. It does get more sensitive with bigger tires and as long as it doesn't come on all the time you are ok.
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You have Bilsteins huh?

The TC light can turn out if you hit a corner to fast or pull out of a Driveway or parking lot to fast. It does get more sensitive with bigger tires and as long as it doesn't come on all the time you are ok.
Roger that.

I think since I adjusted the tire pressure the steering wheel may be sensing different driving characteristics and popped the traction control light. My steering wheel is a bit off center. Tonight I think I'll drop the pressure to 25 and recenter the steering wheel and adjust the drag link to dial it in more precisely.

And now that you mentioned it I did whip into the work driveway a bit faster due to an oncoming car. That's exactly when the light popped.

I run Fox IFP 2.0 shocks (for 4"-6" lift).
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Roger that.

I think since I adjusted the tire pressure the steering wheel may be sensing different driving characteristics and popped the traction control light. My steering wheel is a bit off center. Tonight I think I'll drop the pressure to 25 and recenter the steering wheel and adjust the drag link to dial it in more precisely.

And now that you mentioned it I did whip into the work driveway a bit faster due to an oncoming car. That's exactly when the light popped.

I run Fox IFP 2.0 shocks (for 4"-6" lift).
Ahh.... Fox. No Experience with them
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Took out the Jeep finally and let him get a little sand on his shoes.

The Jeep has been doing superb since I installed the lift and wheels and tires. It took two trips to the dealership to get the steering properly dialed in, but I think it's good now.







And found a little tiny rock to do a small flex on the Jeep. Awww...so cute. His first muscle flex. I had to stop right there because the rear pinch seam and Rubi rail is most certainly in need of a trim. At this small amount of flex I only had about 1/2" of space between the tire and rail.







And The Big Green Jeep went on his first boat ride aboard the St. Johns River Ferry


Very nice color!!!
did you flex your jeep with quick discos connected or disconnected when you took these pictures??
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Very nice color!!!
did you flex your jeep with quick discos connected or disconnected when you took these pictures??
Quoting all those pictures....tsk tsk.

Thanks mallaki.

I had the sway bar links still connected, but I did electronically disconnect via the e-disco button.

I knew I didn't have much room to play with since I haven't trimmed my Rubicon rock rails, but I didn't think I'd bump up against them so quickly. So I could play around anymore and flex it further.

I had planned to trim them yesterday or today, but I played with my ProCal yesterday. And I have an appointment with the tint shop tomorrow. And the welder for my C gusset job on Saturday. So maybe the trim job will come Sunday or next week.
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