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Old 01-04-2013, 04:31 PM   #211
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No need for the Uconnect system. Do you use those button on your steering wheel for your radio's bluetooth phone functions? or do you just use the volume and skip buttons on the back of the wheel? How do you make phone calls with the bluetooth?

These top two buttons
You only get those top two buttons with the Uconnect system (Connectivity Package); otherwise, that space is blank.

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Old 01-04-2013, 06:57 PM   #212
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No need for the Uconnect system. Do you use those button on your steering wheel for your radio's bluetooth phone functions? or do you just use the volume and skip buttons on the back of the wheel? How do you make phone calls with the bluetooth?

These top two buttons
Like ph stated, I don't have those buttons.

For me to make calls I just pull up contacts from my phone via the head unit or directly from my phone. It automatically calls over the head unit and comes through my speakers. I can go to "private" mode if I tap a button on the HU and it switches to the phone.

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I did some research and PAC lists that those buttons are available to make and end calls via bluetooth control on some radios. Now I just need someone to confirm that it actually works before taking the leap.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:38 PM   #214
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I did some research and PAC lists that those buttons are available to make and end calls via bluetooth control on some radios. Now I just need someone to confirm that it actually works before taking the leap.
Well that's interesting and good news.

I think Matador makes a fantastic candidate to take that leap and be the guinea pig.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:43 PM   #215
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So it looks like I'll have a project soon and get to contribute to my thread again.

But, a surprise! I had intended to do a set of JCR Stage 2 sliders next but an opportunity presented itself to get a Poison Spyder Brawler Lite for a good price. I couldn't resist.

I'm hopeful it gets shipped in the next day or two and I'll get to start on it early next week. I called around and got 2 quotes for powder coating. The first shop quoted $100-$125, which sounded great. The second shop quoted $175-$225, which is a pretty large range IMO. But from talking to the second guy I got a lot better feeling that they take the time and care to prep, prime, and coat things better.

The second shop is River City Powder Coating. I was checking out their Facebook page and they do work for Poison Spyder Custom's east coast Jeeps. He even said a PSC employee lives nearby and gets work done there. That was promising and the pictures of their work look nice. If his exact quote comes in closer to the $175 mark I'll be going there and paying a little more since they prime their stuff before powder coating it.

Stay tuned....
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I like it. Well done!!!
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:13 PM   #219
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Hey Kramer. I purchased a set of nitto trail grappler 35x12.5x17's three weeks ago. A buddy of mine wants to buy them and I really wanted 37's. How do u like the Goodyear mtr's, how do they ride and what is your experience on wear. Nitto's are fairly rough. Local shop has them on sale four a good price. Let me know your thoughts
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Hey Kramer. I purchased a set of nitto trail grappler 35x12.5x17's three weeks ago. A buddy of mine wants to buy them and I really wanted 37's. How do u like the Goodyear mtr's, how do they ride and what is your experience on wear. Nitto's are fairly rough. Local shop has them on sale four a good price. Let me know your thoughts
Those Nitto tires are heavy! My search for tires came down to two contenders -- Goodyear MTR w/ K, and BF Goodrich KM2.

It was really a toss up until I walked in to the Discount Tire down the road. I was putting in my order and they happened to have a 35" MTR sitting in the corner with a wheel in it. I was sold. It's a badass tire in person.

There really are a lot of similarities between the MTR and KM2. They're both relatively light, which was my number one requirement. The MTR is only 3-4 pounds heavier than the KM2 I believe, yet it has reinforced sidewalls.

Some say the reinforced sidewall leads to a rough ride, but I've not experience that at all. I run mine at 27PSI and they ride great. I was fully expecting a bone-rattling ride with a humming like you hear from these mud trucks around town. It's nothing like that at all for me.

I say you're picking a great tire going from the Nitto to the GY MTR. I also can't speak on the longevity of these since I only have 2,000 miles on them so far. I'll be exercising some good tire rotation schedules, including the spare, to get maximum range out of them. But only time will tell how long they last.

I also was slightly pushed over the fence toward the MTR's because I had the Tread Lightly $100 rebate for Goodyear tires.
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Hey. Thanks for the insight. I am going to order the GY's tomorrow. Can't go wrong, getting $1400 for the nittos and the GY,s are $2036 installed for 5. It will also force me to pull the trigger on the front bumper as the 35 already rub the air dam on the front.
Thanks. Send you a pick once I get them on.
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Hey. Thanks for the insight. I am going to order the GY's tomorrow. Can't go wrong, getting $1400 for the nittos and the GY,s are $2036 installed for 5. It will also force me to pull the trigger on the front bumper as the 35 already rub the air dam on the front.
Thanks. Send you a pick once I get them on.
You already reinforce your axles?
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No not yet, on the list though. Saw your post on what u did. Great job. Had to by a mig for the suspension install just never got around to ordering the parts yet. Where did u get yours.
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Hey. Thanks for the insight. I am going to order the GY's tomorrow. Can't go wrong, getting $1400 for the nittos and the GY,s are $2036 installed for 5. It will also force me to pull the trigger on the front bumper as the 35 already rub the air dam on the front.
Thanks. Send you a pick once I get them on.
Rip that useless air dam off.
It takes 6 push pivots and it's out of there. I initially trimmed mine then decided it was ugly. It went in the garbage.

Good deal on the picture. I'd love to see the outcome. You should take a before/after with the Nittos and GYs.
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No not yet, on the list though. Saw your post on what u did. Great job. Had to by a mig for the suspension install just never got around to ordering the parts yet. Where did u get yours.
Check out the Artec JK axle armor kits... best in class.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:19 PM   #226
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I will send u all of my mods so far. Just bought two cases of dynamat. Going to pull the entire interior and do everything inside. Also bought color match headliner and sides for around the back windows o match seat color. Just has to warm up enough to install. Will haul the air dam off tomorrow
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Those Nitto tires are heavy! My search for tires came down to two contenders -- Goodyear MTR w/ K, and BF Goodrich KM2.

It was really a toss up until I walked in to the Discount Tire down the road. I was putting in my order and they happened to have a 35" MTR sitting in the corner with a wheel in it. I was sold. It's a badass tire in person.

There really are a lot of similarities between the MTR and KM2. They're both relatively light, which was my number one requirement. The MTR is only 3-4 pounds heavier than the KM2 I believe, yet it has reinforced sidewalls.

Some say the reinforced sidewall leads to a rough ride, but I've not experience that at all. I run mine at 27PSI and they ride great. I was fully expecting a bone-rattling ride with a humming like you hear from these mud trucks around town. It's nothing like that at all for me.

I say you're picking a great tire going from the Nitto to the GY MTR. I also can't speak on the longevity of these since I only have 2,000 miles on them so far. I'll be exercising some good tire rotation schedules, including the spare, to get maximum range out of them. But only time will tell how long they last.

I also was slightly pushed over the fence toward the MTR's because I had the Tread Lightly $100 rebate for Goodyear tires.
I'm down to the same 2 choices. I was thinking also of GY Duratracs but I decided we have too much mud and water in NE Florida and I really need a mud tire to replace my stock BFG KM's.

One question, I've been told the KM2's run a bit small, more like 34" Is that the same with the MTR's, or are they more of a true 35"? I have plenty of room with my RK 2.5" Max Travel lift and would prefer a slightly larger tire all else being equal.
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One question, I've been told the KM2's run a bit small, more like 34" Is that the same with the MTR's, or are they more of a true 35"? I have plenty of room with my RK 2.5" Max Travel lift and would prefer a slightly larger tire all else being equal.
I had heard the same thing during my research. Perhaps that has a subconscience effect on my decision because it is nice to think. I measured out my 35" MTR's and found them to be 34.5" aired at 27PSI. While not exactly a true 35, it's closer than some others I've seen. As you mentioned, I've read about some guys' KM2's measuring around the 34" mark. While not a big difference, I like to think I'm getting as close to 35" as I can.
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Sadly, my 315/70/17's measure under load at just over 33.7"...
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Pulled the air dam off, no more rubbing. Tires arrive Friday. Ordered the Arctic front and rear truss system. Will send u a pic.
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Pulled the air dam off, no more rubbing. Tires arrive Friday. Ordered the Arctic front and rear truss system. Will send u a pic.
Whoa, rear too? That's badass! Glad to hear it!
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Houston, we have a problem.

I went to do the sway bar ground clearance install with a new bolt and discovered it can't be done on a 2013 JKUR. In the videos I've watched all you do is trim away a little bit of the radiator plastic guard so the plug has clearance once you rotate the sway bar motor.

However, as evidenced by the below pictures, I discovered the 2013 JKUR (not sure about other trims) has a coolant or HVAC line running across the area where the plug needs room.

This is how it is situated from the factory. You can see the silver line running horizontally.



This is a picture once you rotate the sway bar motor around as much as possible before contact is made. This is still about an inch away from being able to install the Metalcloak ground clearance bolt.




This sucks. I guess I won't be raising the motor. I already chopped off the crash bar too. Maybe I'll look into small skid plate solutions to protect under my Brawler Lite bumper.

If anyone is interested in the Metalcloak Ground Clearance kit it looks like I'll have one for sale. :/
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:55 PM   #233
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have you looked into a hose shop? you might find that you can get a custom hose made that will allow you to run the relo kit? probably done for around $100 i'd guess....
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If it is an HVAC line, moving it may be expensive since you most likely need to purge/refill the system.

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I found in another thread that a guy did this mod and he also had the hard line. Apparently it is a hard line for the power steering system.

I followed his lead and simply applied gentle pressure until there is a slight curve in the line. It now clears the plastic plug for the motor with just enough room.

I can relax now, everything is fine.
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I have to go out and check my '12. I don't feel comfortable tugging on hard lines like that, or having something rubbing up against it that can wear away the tubing.
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I have to go out and check my '12. I don't feel comfortable tugging on hard lines like that, or having something rubbing up against it that can wear away the tubing.
Did you relocate the motor on yours? Did you have a hard line?

I'm not sure if this is specific to 2013s or what?
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Here's a couple pictures showing the clearance after I put a gentle bow in the hard line. It should be just fine.



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Here's a couple pictures showing the clearance after I put a gentle bow in the hard line. It should be just fine.


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Old 01-15-2013, 04:36 PM   #240
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I completed my prep for installing my Brawler Lite. I dropped it off yesterday at the powder coater and should have it back Thursday or Friday.

I finished cutting off the crash bar. I filed down the rough edges and applied some paint to the bare metal for rust protection.

Here's the finished look, just waiting on the bumper now.



Notice the sway bar motor is now a little higher and out of harm's way just a bit better.

Passenger side crash bar cut.



Driver side cut. I realized I cut too much and got the little mount that holds the vacuum pump. I grabbed a bolt and nut from my tool chest and secured it back to a small piece still remaining after I cut.


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