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Old 05-02-2012, 07:03 AM   #91
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Great idea. What can't you weld?? Stainless & aluminum are out of my league. Your build is so inspiring. Can't wait to see it back from the PC shop.
Finished my front bumper today. Just put the last coat of paint on it. Can't wait to asemble it in the am. Looks a bit Neanderthal compared to yours tho. But I like it a lot.

I'll check for your pics tomorrow!
Again, awesome work.
Thanks for the compliments. Throw up some pics of your bumper. I would like to see it.

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Ok, I got the bumper back from the powder coating shop last night and couldn't wait to install it. It took a little longer than I had anticipated due to the fact that they had powder coated the areas that I had asked them not to. I had to remove the coating from my bearing races and inside of the spindle mount as well as the threads on for my pull pin. I ran a tap through all of my other bolt holes but I didn't want them not coated. Regular bolt threads are no big deal to chase with a tap prior to installation. They did however at least tape off the spindle so that was one less thing that I had to clean the coating off of.

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Anyways here are a few pictures of when I brought it home and unwrapped it prior to installation. The textured powder coating turned out awesome!






Tramp stamp was powder coated smooth gloss black.


Hi-Lift jack mount turned out fantastic as well.

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On to installed pictures.

Here is the completed bumper when first introduced to the Jeep.


Tire carrier installed along with the toggle clamp/hasp and the 3rd brake light. I do not have the 3rd brake light hooked up yet. That will be addressed tomorrow night.


Here it is with the spare mounted on it.


And with the backup LEDs on.


All that is left now is wiring my 3rd brake light, installing my powder coated "D" rings, installation of my tramp stamp, installation on my Hi-Lift jack mounting bracket, installation of my Tuffy locking rear deck enclosure (which I received a couple of days ago) and as soon as my TrekTop NX show up I can install that. I hope it shows up within the next week as I would really like to have that installed before our Moab trip in two weeks.

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its just AWSOME!!!

dont suppose you want to make me a bumper like that
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OK you had me with the first post!!! Amazing! Question is.... Wanna repeat all that fulltime with another '11 JKU?????? Just askin'
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OK you had me with the first post!!! Amazing! Question is.... Wanna repeat all that fulltime with another '11 JKU?????? Just askin'
Time permitting I would love to build more Jeeps. I am about out of money on this one but if I could build some for others I am all for it.

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Thanks for the compliments. Throw up some pics of your bumper. I would like to see it.

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Wow! I looked great B4 the powder coating. Now it is just amazing. I like the heavy texture they put on it. Way cool!!

I'll post up my bumper builds in the build section. It'll be labeled something like, "A poor mans bumper build", or perhaps "Another redneck DIY Bumper thread", lol.

Again, very nice job Mike!
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Wow! I looked great B4 the powder coating. Now it is just amazing. I like the heavy texture they put on it. Way cool!!

I'll post up my bumper builds in the build section. It'll be labeled something like, "A poor mans bumper build", or perhaps "Another redneck DIY Bumper thread", lol.

Again, very nice job Mike!
Thank you. I appreciate the compliments.

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I had been mulling over what to do with the ventilation exhaust in the tailgate and my tramp stamp. Many people just remove the exhaust valve altogether and space the tramp stamp out with foam or rubber. I wanted something a little more solid mounted, mainly because I wanted to keep my CB antenna mount in the same location as it was with the OEM tire carrier.

This is what I came up with. I cut the small spacer off of the ventilation exhaust so it is flush with the exterior of the exhaust valve itself. I reinstalled it and then put a piece of 3/4"x3/4" weatherstripping around the two sides and the top of the valve to ensure water would stay out. This gasket material is the kind that is hollow but will compress down to about 1/4"when completed collapsed. It was left over from when I replaced the weatherstripping/seal around the rear ramp of my enclosed trailer a few years ago.

I also machined some spacers that will allow the 8mm bolts to pass through but stand the panel off the back of the tailgate 3/8" to allow the exhaust valve function as normal. Overall I think it turned out good and looks almost factory.

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Here is an overall view of the tramp stamp after mounting. I still need to get two more 8mm bolts that are black, I ran out and had to use a couple of zinc coated ones temporarily.


Here is a view of the spacing.


Here is the Hi-Lift jack mount. My son fabbed up some spacers for the bolts so the edges of the upper and lower mounting brackets do not get rolled down when tight. This way it keeps everything properly spaced yet tight on the square tubing.
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Mike, I have a buddy putting gears in his jkr, says now his front lockers are on, even in 2wd. I,m guessing he broke the electrical switch on the carrier. Any suggestions?

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Sorry Mike, He found out that the small pin wasn,t set right. Quick fix.
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Looks awesome!
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Mike. I love that you can easily remove your spare. What a great idea to use hitch tubing & a pin. Do you have the option of mounting it higher for trail riding?
I'm thinking I want my spare where it is for on road/easy trails, but would like it 5 or 6 inches higher for more extreme stuff.

Oh & the Hi-Lift mount is awesome.
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Mike, I have a buddy putting gears in his jkr, says now his front lockers are on, even in 2wd. I,m guessing he broke the electrical switch on the carrier. Any suggestions?

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Sorry Mike, He found out that the small pin wasn,t set right. Quick fix.
Looks like you beat me to the fix. I was going to say there is a small cone shaped pin on the inside of the housing that protrudes out of the sensor and it must be on the correct side of the locker in order to inidicate when it is engaged or not.

Tell your friend not to feel alone, this is a very common mistake on the Rubicon carriers. Usually people break them because they get impatient because there is a certain order you must remove them in. Due to their placement the carrier must be removed first, then the sensor out the side of the housing and THEN you can remove the pinion. Generally people will knock the pinion out and snap the end of the sensor clean off. It ends up being an expensive lesson as I have heard those sensors run around $85.00 and only available from the OEM.

Glad he figured it out though.

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Mike. I love that you can easily remove your spare. What a great idea to use hitch tubing & a pin. Do you have the option of mounting it higher for trail riding?
I'm thinking I want my spare where it is for on road/easy trails, but would like it 5 or 6 inches higher for more extreme stuff.

Oh & the Hi-Lift mount is awesome.
Bruce, thanks again. As far as the spare, I didn't use a pin. I actually drilled and tapped the inside piece to 5/8"-10 and bolted it so I wouldn't have to listen to the carrier rattle. When I was fabricating the tire mount I did two things while trying to think ahead.

First, I mounted the bracket to the spare and then slid it into the receiver until the tire was completely up against the "A" frame part of the tire carrier. I marked the holes for the 5/8" bolts on either side of the mounting bracket, then removed the bracket and tire to drill and tap. Prior to drilling it I relocated the hole from my mark by 1/8". This would somewhat "preload" the tire on the carrier. When I installed the tire onto the mount it touches on three points just 1/8" prior to the backside of the wheel coming in contact with the mounting plate. When I tighten the three lugnuts to secure the spare tire it sucks the tire against the carrier a little more snugly to prevent any movement and/or rattles and noises.

Secondly, the center mounting bracket that slides into the receiver for the spare tire carrier is slightly offset. This in conjunction with the 1-1/2" space under the tire will allow me to run 37" tires IF I ever decide to down the road. I doubt I ever will though. If I do I merely have to invert the bracket and it will raise the tire mounting position by about an inch and yet my 3rd brake light will still be in the center and I can slap a 37" tire on it.

I was more concerned about keeping my spare tire low and close to the tailgate than high for off road. It actually sits 1-1/2" lower than when on the OEM bracket and 1" closer to the tailgate. I had gone off a few pretty steep descents when in Moab last time with stock bumper and took some measurements for clearance. I doubt I will do any wheeling extreme enough to catch my bumper or spare even though it is probably lower than some bumper/tire carrier combos out there.

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I completed two more little items last night that I thought would only take a few minutes. Who am I kidding, nothing takes a few minutes anymore.

I wired in my 3rd brake light. I removed the sub-woofer and found the wire feeding the OEM 3rd brake light and tapped into it prior to it going through the flexible wire loom. I then ran the wire down and under the Jeep and put Weatherpack connector on it. I then soldered and heat shrunk the connection onto the back of my new 3rd brake light and run some convoluted tubing/casing down the backside of the carrier and drilled/tapped for 10-32 stainless steel screws to hold the casing/wiring in place. If I would have been really thinking I would have run some mechanics wire through the inside of the carrier during the fabrication process and then after powder coating pulled the electrical wire through with the mechanics wire and had all of my wiring hidden. Oh well, this looks ok I guess.

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Here is the wiring attached to the backside of the carrier in the convoluted casing and down the backside where it attaches to a Weatherpack connector.


One other item I address that bugged me was the routing of the CB antenna from the previous owner. He ran it under the hardtop and around the exterior gate hinge. It worked OK but I was uncertain of how it would work with the TrekTop NX that I am waiting for. I decided to change the routing so I ran it through the tailgate and had it exit from under the rear tramp stamp and be able to plug right into the mount. While I had the sub-woofer out it was very easy to access the flexible wire loom for the rear gate.

Let me know if you think this looks better than in the pictures above where it runs along side the tailgate hinge cover.
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"Let me know if you think this looks better"


COME-ON there is nothing you havent done or built that doesnt look better
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I was out in the shop working last night when the wife arrived home from work. She came out into the shop to say hi and actually had the audacity to ask me if the Jeep is now done? I said "it's a Jeep, it's never done!" I could tell by the look on her face that she was not amused. She said "are you through playing with the Jeep for a while then?" I think she wants me to get back to work making money rather than spending it. I can understand that I guess, but I took two weeks off to do some mods to the Jeep so I had better get back to wrenching and making money.

I know this is a Jeep forum, however, I found another money pit but this one is cheap compared to my Jeep. About a month ago I was building a Harley Davidson shovelhead for a guy and had to run the H-D dealership to pick up the pistons, cylinders and heads. While I was there I ran into a gentleman who was trying to upgrade and had a bike that was not running. The dealership wouldn't give him much for trade-in and he overheard me talking to the parts guys. He approached me as I was leaving to talk to me about his bike. At this point he merely wanted to unload it and have some money to put towards a new ride.

I went and looked at it and was surprised at its condition. Other than the skulls and crossbones all over the bike it was in good condition cosmetically. I went back to his place a few days later and did a compression test and cylinder leakage test to find that he had something going on in the rear cylinder head. I made him an offer and we agreed on a price. When I got the bike home and was unloading it off of the my trailer a neighbor stopped by to talk. He and his wife are really into Harleys so he was curious about what I was dragging home.

I was somewhat embarrassed by all of the skulls and cross bones on the bike and wanted to get it into the shop and under cover as quickly as possible. My neighbor said his brother-in-law is really into all of the skulls/crossbones stuff and may be interested in taking some of it off of my hands. A couple hours later his BIL stopped by and went nuts over all of the accessories that I didn't like. I actually swapped him for quite a few accessories for his genuin H-D accessories, items such as the horn cover, fuel petcock, fuel cap, and a couple of other trim items. I also had a set of Drag Specialties Buffalo handlebars/controls, air cleaner, rear sprocket chrome cover, LED taillight, and forward controls from a project that I built a guy a few years ago. I also had a set of billet mirrors kicking around and picked up a used H-D windshield and used Screamin' Eagle baffles/mufflers.

I tore the rear cylinder down and found a bad exhaust valve so off to the dealership I went to order parts and believe it or not they had everything I needed in stock. The OEM valve has been discontinued but they stocked a Kibblewhite OE replacement and all H-D gaskets. I put everything back together last weekend as well as all of the accessories that I had kicking around and the ones that I had bartered/swapped for. I also picked up a polished billet aluminum cover for the diaphragm on the CV carburetor so it should be fast as hell now.

I also had a lot of little bolt head covers from other projects over the years so I added them to the socket head capscrews on the engine and chassis. I installed a solo seat with a filler panel on the rear but I have the OEM two-up seat with sissy bar and buddy pegs for when the wife wants to go for ride. It only should take about 20 minutes to swap.

My plan for Moab next week is to throw the Harley in the trailer and the Jeep so we can take both. I generally flat tow the Jeep behind our coach but I think this summers trips may include the trailer to have the ability to take both the bike and the Jeep.

Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Mike.

Here is the new addition to our stable as it sits on the lift. At this point I have fired it but had not even ridden it yet. I took it out for my first ride last night prior to working on the Jeep. It seems to run out real nice. I think I have a little tweaking on the carb yet but other than that it is done.




Closeup of the engine with the forward controls. It is a little dusty/dirty and needs a good cleaning and polish so don't beat me up too bad about that.
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COME-ON there is nothing you havent done or built that doesnt look better
Thanks. I wish I could hide the wiring all-together. Exposed wiring is one of my pet-peeves (just one I guess).

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Bruce, thanks again. As far as the spare, I didn't use a pin. I actually drilled and tapped the inside piece to 5/8"-10 and bolted it so I wouldn't have to listen to the carrier rattle. When I was fabricating the tire mount I did two things while trying to think ahead.

First, I mounted the bracket to the spare and then slid it into the receiver until the tire was completely up against the "A" frame part of the tire carrier. I marked the holes for the 5/8" bolts on either side of the mounting bracket, then removed the bracket and tire to drill and tap. Prior to drilling it I relocated the hole from my mark by 1/8". This would somewhat "preload" the tire on the carrier. When I installed the tire onto the mount it touches on three points just 1/8" prior to the backside of the wheel coming in contact with the mounting plate. When I tighten the three lugnuts to secure the spare tire it sucks the tire against the carrier a little more snugly to prevent any movement and/or rattles and noises.

Secondly, the center mounting bracket that slides into the receiver for the spare tire carrier is slightly offset. This in conjunction with the 1-1/2" space under the tire will allow me to run 37" tires IF I ever decide to down the road. I doubt I ever will though. If I do I merely have to invert the bracket and it will raise the tire mounting position by about an inch and yet my 3rd brake light will still be in the center and I can slap a 37" tire on it.

I was more concerned about keeping my spare tire low and close to the tailgate than high for off road. It actually sits 1-1/2" lower than when on the OEM bracket and 1" closer to the tailgate. I had gone off a few pretty steep descents when in Moab last time with stock bumper and took some measurements for clearance. I doubt I will do any wheeling extreme enough to catch my bumper or spare even though it is probably lower than some bumper/tire carrier combos out there.

Mike.
Good stuff. I like how it snugs up when you torque down your lug nuts. Great idea. I'm already thinking, (just thinking) of redoing my rear bumper. My spare may not be too low for what I do, but I don't like the use of the word "may" in this context. That being said, with my slider in place it's fine. I was trying to drag my slider on Hells Revenge & Fins & things. It only drug once, so ya, not a huge deal.

I drive my jeep to the trail, therfore I must have a spare. Most of the big boys trailer theirs, & that's where they leave their spares.
We watched 30 jeeps conquer the last 6 obstacles of Pritchet Canyon this Easter. Most of them had no spares. One who was packing his spare at the beginning of the trail was not at the end. He tore it off right in front of us. He was spinning everything he had, desperatley trying to get up this impossible to me obstacle, he slid back down & forcefully smacked his spare. It tore it right off.

Your design inspired me. I want to be able to have an adjustable heighth spare tire carrier some day. Low for traffic, higher for off road....Some day.

Really, I don't have a man crush on you but damn, you come up with some great ideas!!! LOL
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Are you kidding me??? Comments, you want comments??

Ya, your Wife is right, you're a frickin idiot! I remember you whining just the other day in another thread that you're just a mechanic & how you can't afford to buy stuff so you have to make everything yourself & just live with the end results.

Good Grief Charlie Brown.................

And now this??? A friken HD!!

I'm exhausted.... Reading your threads & looking at all your cool sh!t is making me feel like a squirrel just trying to get a nut!!!

Hats off to you Mike.. Love what you've done with your beautiful black Jeep

Love the new bike

Good Stuff here!
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Good stuff. I like how it snugs up when you torque down your lug nuts. Great idea. I'm already thinking, (just thinking) of redoing my rear bumper. My spare may not be too low for what I do, but I don't like the use of the word "may" in this context. That being said, with my slider in place it's fine. I was trying to drag my slider on Hells Revenge & Fins & things. It only drug once, so ya, not a huge deal.

I drive my jeep to the trail, therfore I must have a spare. Most of the big boys trailer theirs, & that's where they leave their spares.
We watched 30 jeeps conquer the last 6 obstacles of Pritchet Canyon this Easter. Most of them had no spares. One who was packing his spare at the beginning of the trail was not at the end. He tore it off right in front of us. He was spinning everything he had, desperatley trying to get up this impossible to me obstacle, he slid back down & forcefully smacked his spare. It tore it right off.

Your design inspired me. I want to be able to have an adjustable heighth spare tire carrier some day. Low for traffic, higher for off road....Some day.

Really, I don't have a man crush on you but damn, you come up with some great ideas!!! LOL
I have seen a few guys tear off their spare or at least smack it enough to damage the tailgate. This and the possibility of broken spot welds are what drove me to the new bumper/tire carrier addition. If I didn't wheel mine the OEM carrier would probably have been fine. I don't like the idea of leaving my spare at camp and wheeling without one. My feelings are if I have a spare tire I won't need one. Murphy has a nasty habit of rearing his ugly head when least prepared.

P.S. I won't let the wife in on that other thing.

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Are you kidding me??? Comments, you want comments??

Ya, your Wife is right, you're a frickin idiot! I remember you whining just the other day in another thread that you're just a mechanic & how you can't afford to buy stuff so you have to make everything yourself & just live with the end results.

Good Grief Charlie Brown.................

And now this??? A friken HD!!

I'm exhausted.... Reading your threads & looking at all your cool sh!t is making me feel like a squirrel just trying to get a nut!!!

Hats off to you Mike.. Love what you've done with your beautiful black Jeep

Love the new bike

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Thanks, I guess.

As far as the bike I really fell in a pile of crap and came out smelling like a rose on that one. Talk about being at the right place at the right time and getting a screamin deal. I was afraid to even ask the wife on that one but when I did she even said that I had better snag that one if I really didn't think it was anything seriously wrong with it. I had diagnosed it and felt about 90% sure of what it was and gambled that there wasn't anything addition wrong with it.

I really appreciate the comments though. I remember when I was just getting started in my career. I had several guys that were great mentors and I used to think how awesome it would be to have the home, shop, tools, vehicles and toys that they had. I never begrudged them of or was envious (well maybe a little, I am human) but I really wanted a life like that. Well it really is amazing how fast life can creap up on a person and if you really want something and go after it how fast it really can happen.

My wife and I have had setbacks in our life/marriage but we come back harder and more aggressively to get caught up. I have been very blessed over the years to have the ability and desire to work hard and provide a lifestyle for my wife and I as well as to hopefully be an example to our son.

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Amazing thread... Great build.
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I have seen a few guys tear off their spare or at least smack it enough to damage the tailgate. This and the possibility of broken spot welds are what drove me to the new bumper/tire carrier addition. If I didn't wheel mine the OEM carrier would probably have been fine. I don't like the idea of leaving my spare at camp and wheeling without one. My feelings are if I have a spare tire I won't need one. Murphy has a nasty habit of rearing his ugly head when least prepared.

P.S. I won't let the wife in on that other thing.



Thanks, I guess.

As far as the bike I really fell in a pile of crap and came out smelling like a rose on that one. Talk about being at the right place at the right time and getting a screamin deal. I was afraid to even ask the wife on that one but when I did she even said that I had better snag that one if I really didn't think it was anything seriously wrong with it. I had diagnosed it and felt about 90% sure of what it was and gambled that there wasn't anything addition wrong with it.

I really appreciate the comments though. I remember when I was just getting started in my career. I had several guys that were great mentors and I used to think how awesome it would be to have the home, shop, tools, vehicles and toys that they had. I never begrudged them of or was envious (well maybe a little, I am human) but I really wanted a life like that. Well it really is amazing how fast life can creap up on a person and if you really want something and go after it how fast it really can happen.

My wife and I have had setbacks in our life/marriage but we come back harder and more aggressively to get caught up. I have been very blessed over the years to have the ability and desire to work hard and provide a lifestyle for my wife and I as well as to hopefully be an example to our son.

Mike.
I'm just funnen with ya. No doubt you have worked very hard in life. With work, in your relationship as well.
And tho I look at what you have & have built, it makes me want to become a better welder & fabricator, but jealousy it not remotely an issue here. I have been very blessed in all aspects of my life as well.

However, if you should happen to buy a boat or a plane later this month...

Take care Bud, always fun seeing what you're up to & chattin with ya!!
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Sorry for the delay Mike, I've been Jeepn all weekend. Thanks for your reply back! I'd like to share something else with you on my 5.38s. I still haven't programed my gear change in yet. I thought it would affect the speedo, but it didn't,(still dead on). The tranny still thinks I have 4.10s, I'm going to play some more till I decide wether to re-cal or not. The tranny is staying in the gears a little longer before shifting, (thinking it still has 4.10s) and so far, I like that!

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Looks like you beat me to the fix. I was going to say there is a small cone shaped pin on the inside of the housing that protrudes out of the sensor and it must be on the correct side of the locker in order to inidicate when it is engaged or not.

Tell your friend not to feel alone, this is a very common mistake on the Rubicon carriers. Usually people break them because they get impatient because there is a certain order you must remove them in. Due to their placement the carrier must be removed first, then the sensor out the side of the housing and THEN you can remove the pinion. Generally people will knock the pinion out and snap the end of the sensor clean off. It ends up being an expensive lesson as I have heard those sensors run around $85.00 and only available from the OEM.

Glad he figured it out though.

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She said "are you through playing with the Jeep for a while then?"

So, it's her fault you bought the Harley!? Ha
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Sorry for the delay Mike, I've been Jeepn all weekend. Thanks for your reply back! I'd like to share something else with you on my 5.38s. I still haven't programed my gear change in yet. I thought it would affect the speedo, but it didn't,(still dead on). The tranny still thinks I have 4.10s, I'm going to play some more till I decide wether to re-cal or not. The tranny is staying in the gears a little longer before shifting, (thinking it still has 4.10s) and so far, I like that!
Overall are you happy with the gears then? I actually recalibrated both my tire size and gears before the Jeep left the shop after the gear swap so I don't have any comparison between the two programs on the new gears. I was so disappointed with the 4.10 gears that I couldn't wait to get my calibration taken care of and make it fun to drive again.

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She said "are you through playing with the Jeep for a while then?"

So, it's her fault you bought the Harley!? Ha
I will have to use that. I will tell her that she told me to quite playing with the Jeep and look what followed me home.

I will see where that gets me.

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Yes, I like the new gears real well and the jeep does too! Still not sure what it tachs @70mph, I'd say under 2700rpm for sure and 2600rpm on the low side. Before with the 4.10s the eco light hardly ever came on, unless going downhill, now it's on all the time, unless I'm accelerating, or going up a hill. Now even with 5 people riding, it will downshift 1 gear if any at all while going up hills, with the cruise on. Even my wife noticed a big difference! You were right Mike, it's now fun to drive. More power and better mileage. Count me in!

Now you can tell your wife "If you get tired of me playing with the Harley, I can always show the Jeep some more love"! It's either that or bring another toy home!
It's a win win situation ... or maybe not. But it does sound good anyway.

Thanks for all your input Mike!

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