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Old 12-02-2013, 08:47 AM   #1
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Hi all,

I'm new to the forum but not to the jeep world. Had my first one (YJ) 8 years ago. Got out of jeeps for a while, because life got crazy, but I just sold my pickup and picked up a previous salvage TJ 4.0L on the super cheap. It drives perfectly straight, has zero rust, except for a quarter size spot under the rear license plate and surface rust on the front bumper which i plan on wire wheeling and rustoleum truck bed lining. It was in a front end collision and the grille and hood are just slightly out of whack. I plan on straightening that out better.

Current Issues

Rear end and power steering is leaking.
Cranks for a couple of seconds before starting when warm.
Needs brakes
Drivers Seat is ripped up
I'm going to change all fluids. Oil change already done.
runs slightly rough at idle, thinking it needs a tuneup, haven't checked plugs and wires yet.

Plans as of now

Find a hard top
4" lift
wheels
33's
light guards
grille guard
some offroad lighting

Here's the new one.





Here's My old one (probably going a similar direction with this one)


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Old 12-02-2013, 12:24 PM   #2
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Good luck with the build, 4" is a healthy amount of lift. With that much lift you're probably going to need to do SYE and double cardan shaft. If you only want to clear 33's, I'd look into ~2-2.5" suspension lift and a "1.25" bl (JKS). That setup with a Mml should work well with 33s

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I looks great, and it sounds like your plans are very similar to my 02 build. I'll be looking forward to seeing your progress.

Oh, and don't try to hard to find the plug wires on your '02... It doesn't have any.
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Looks good...always a fan of the green

As tgj, said...you're going to need a SYE and CV shaft with that 4" lift so plan another chunk of cash to go toward that. As a DD, you're also going to want new gears (4.56 for the 33's) so again, add another chunk of cash.

Good luck...

i've got a DD build for my current rig a few threads below, maybe give that a read for some ideas as well.
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Old 12-04-2013, 09:44 AM   #5
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Oh, and don't try to hard to find the plug wires on your '02... It doesn't have any.
yeah I know, i mindlessly typed that out of habit.

I think i found the source of my 0442 and 0455 codes last night. The hose going from the leak detection pump to the evap canister has numerous splits and cracks in it so gonna replace that.

Is there an online retailer that would have this hose or is it dealer only? I've looked numerous places and haven't been able to find it.

I've looked on.

Morris 4x4
quadratec
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so far no luck
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yeah I know, i mindlessly typed that out of habit.

I think i found the source of my 0442 and 0455 codes last night. The hose going from the leak detection pump to the evap canister has numerous splits and cracks in it so gonna replace that.

Is there an online retailer that would have this hose or is it dealer only? I've looked numerous places and haven't been able to find it.

I've looked on.

Morris 4x4
quadratec
jcwhitney
4wd

so far no luck
Parts stores will have various fittings and hose. If you want an easy, exact match, its a dealer part I believe. If you find the Mopar part number, you'll be able to find a better price online though. I'm at work and can't look, but you should be able to find a diagram online with part numbers.
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Old 12-05-2013, 10:37 AM   #7
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yeah i'm going to stop by the dealer this weekend. Im not having any luck finding the part number online.

Did some minor cleaning of the interior last night after work. Everything is sticky from the previous owner. Got rid of Every aftermarket piece (which wasn't much at all) that the previous owner did but everything he did do, he did wrong.

The top wasn't on right, so got that sorted as well. Not much of an update, but hoping i'll have some better ones soon. My christmas wish list was filled with goodies so better updates will happen soon.

Also, found a dirt road and let it see its first bit of mud in the fender wells.
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Didn't get the best pic, but went to put my head unit in and noticed an aftermarket toggle switch next to the rear defroster and rear wiper switch. Plastic was all melted around it so while i had the dash apart decided to figure out what the hell that was about before i caught on fire.

Wiring led to nowhere just randomly stopped in the engine bay, and ground was still connected to the battery. Most haggard wiring i've ever seen. So thats figured out.



Question, since the stereo harness doesn't have a ground wire built into it, where is everyone running the ground? My stock radio had no ground connected to it, unless there grounded through the antenna?
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Seems like your going a very similar direction that I went. I went the poor college kid route.

700$ 4inch lift kit (with installation)
250$ craigslist 33x12.5 Wild Countries with steel rims.
80$ Offroad light bar
135$ for 6 offroad lights Snappylights ( actually really great lights)
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Seems like your going a very similar direction that I went. I went the poor college kid route.

700$ 4inch lift kit (with installation)
250$ craigslist 33x12.5 Wild Countries with steel rims.
80$ Offroad light bar
135$ for 6 offroad lights Snappylights ( actually really great lights)
Well similar direction definitely, but don't want to take the cheap route just to get it done cheap. I'll probably wait a while do some research and find the best option for what i'm looking for. Im a big advocate on patience research and building right the first time to meet my needs.

What lift did you go with? You do a SYE?

I definitely dont think i need a long arm kit, that would be overkill for my needs. just definitely want to have decent flex for the times i do hit the trails. I've been considering the 4inch RC X series kit but open to suggestions.
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First of all, my 97 looked exactly like that when I first got it. Brings back memories haha
I have:
2.5" RC coil and shock lift (I like it)
31x10.5 all terrains. (I want 33s down the road)
2 KC hilighters mounted on windshield (love them, need more for bumper mount)
You are literally so lucky to find one with no major rust issues. Frame are between door and back tire is an area to keep an eye on!
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And the drivers seat ripping is just a jeep thing... Tape it up and get seat covers haha
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You are literally so lucky to find one with no major rust issues. Frame are between door and back tire is an area to keep an eye on!
Trust me i looked at so many, and every one that exact area was an issue, or body mount rust. I ruled this one out after looking at it cause of the previous salvage, but after seeing so many rusted to crap and fixed but not fixed right, i decided to go back for it and ended up getting it super cheap
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Mine has patches upon patches upon patches. Mostly preventative, but the darn rot still finds it's way in. Especially with that weird salt stuff in CT... It's eating my frame
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the salt is spread like crazy in jersey as well currently. As soon as its gone gonna hit a lukoil station and run through the carwash with the under body wash. I hate the salt everyone should just learn how to drive.
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On another note, replaced the haggard evap hose going from the Leak Detection pump to the evap canister and cleared the codes. hopefully that solved the problem.

Also, running slightly rough. Bought double platinum autolite plugs, just waiting on a night thats not brutally cold to do it after work. Also wanna clean the throttle body and map sensor at the same time.
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the salt is spread like crazy in jersey as well currently. As soon as its gone gonna hit a lukoil station and run through the carwash with the under body wash. I hate the salt everyone should just learn how to drive.
4WD or stay home when it's a total blizzard outside... Pretty simple haha. My jeep was out and about all day during the snow earlier this week. 4 wheel high made it feel like a summer drive, minus the warmth
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I'm thinking about doing a two tone interior with black and spice. The black trim around the cluster, and the center of the dash angers me that there isn't consistency with the rest of the interior. I'm thinking black passenger airbag cover and passenger dash grab handle, maybe black speaker covers but haven't decided that yet, and leave the bottom spice. As far as the doors, follow the same line the dash would then be following. maybe make up slimmer vinyl door cards at the same time.
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Picked up a hard top today on the super cheap up in Connecticut. Weird unrelated coincidental issue though. Ever since switching to the hard top and filling up my tank and resetting the trip meter, now the trip meter works, but once i turn the ignition off, it jumps back to total mileage display and resets to tripmeter to zero. Anyone have this issue?
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Replaced the plugs finally tonight, rough idle is almost completely gone. Pulled Bosche platinum 2's out with the double electrode, replaced with Autolite app985.
Still gotta check for leaky injectors, and the fpr.
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Color matched the headlight surrounds, chrome doesn't belong on a jeep in my opinion. I didn't ask for anything other than jeep parts for christmas, so hopefully my next update is a good one. Also pulled off the top and resealed it and put it back on, the trip meter started working again. I clearly have a bad ground somewhere but I'm baffled.

Had a local guy give me a new front bumper for free, so that rustiness should be gone soon also.

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Wiring led to nowhere just randomly stopped in the engine bay, and ground was still connected to the battery. Most haggard wiring i've ever seen. So thats figured out.

Question, since the stereo harness doesn't have a ground wire built into it, where is everyone running the ground? My stock radio had no ground connected to it, unless there grounded through the antenna?[/QUOTE]
My stock radio wire ran through the firewall and onto the underside of the hood. It was gorunded to the big support bar that runs front to rear on the underside of the hood piece itself. the extra switch you found might not have been aftermarket. Sahara's i know come with foglights and thats the switch for those. Mabey somebody replace the switch at some point?
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My stock radio wire ran through the firewall and onto the underside of the hood. It was gorunded to the big support bar that runs front to rear on the underside of the hood piece itself. the extra switch you found might not have been aftermarket. Sahara's i know come with foglights and thats the switch for those. Mabey somebody replace the switch at some point?
Thanks, Its definitely aftermarket toggle switch, and the wiring certainly wasn't factory. Its a sport not a sahara.

I have some work to do. It was a good Christmas between my father brother and girlfriend i got some good stuff to swap over and put on. just need a lift and 33's now.

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nice looking tj...will be following this.
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nice looking tj...will be following this.
Thanks, If all goes as planned, i'm going to be picking these up this weekend

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Picked up the new wheels yesterday. Can't wait till this thing is lifted, tops painted black, and theres 33's on these


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