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Old 11-17-2012, 12:25 AM   #1
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Herculiner Project

Got the interior taken out, sanded down the clear coat (or what was left of it). Cleaned the inside with acetone. Got to get some rust killer for a few spots that the sander couldn't reach. Hope to have this done by Monday. This is the second jeep I have done

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Old 11-17-2012, 12:26 AM   #2
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:28 AM   #3
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:06 AM   #4
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Quite a project. =) About how many hours would you say the prep work takes? Looking forward to seeing some finished pics.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:13 AM   #5
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I would say 2-3 hours including taking out the interior. The better you prep the better the outcome. Use a electric sander and throw away the scotch pad that is in the box.
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:36 PM   #6
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:37 PM   #7
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Prep work done!
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:54 PM   #8
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Done with first coat. Second and final coat in 3 hours.

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Old 11-18-2012, 12:55 AM   #9
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Finished second coat. Removed the tape entry guards and make them with the Herculiner. I had about a 1/4 gallon left over. Might use what's left to make the high traffic areas thicker.

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Old 11-18-2012, 01:04 AM   #10
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Looks great! How did the bedliner in the first Jeep hold up? I've heard mixed reviews. Some claim it's all in the prep.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:21 AM   #11
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It held up great in the first jeep had it 5 years and it looked great the day I sold it. One thing that impressed me was in the other jeep a stick came up and hit my floor pan. The floor pan got pushed up a good 3-4 inches and 4-5 inches around and the Herculiner stayed formed to the big dent. Then I took a hammer to the dent to get it back down and the Hireculiner once again stayed with the floor. I believe it is in the prep work. I spent 5 hours prepping and only 15 minutes per coat. To prep I took a steel brush to every inch of the floor especially corners. Then vacuumed the floor real good. Next I took my electric sander with 80 grit sand paper and sanded the clear coat till the floor what almost white and sanded any rust to bare metal. Then vacuumed again. Then I took acetone to the complete surface. Finally I put all the bolts back in the jeep and taped them and the VIN plate up real good. I am a big believer in doing things right the first time.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:39 AM   #12
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That's a good testimonial. I'm surprised it didn't crack over the dent or when hammered. Impressed, actually. So far, we've only used bedliner on our flares (which look fantastic). What impressed me was, just a couple of hours after applying the final coat, we drove home and I managed to scrape one of the flares along a metal post when parking (I'm too short to see the end of the Jeep). The bedliner was untouched. It actually scraped paint off of the post instead of the other way around. Makes me want to do our tub. We have nasty aftermarket carpeting that needs to be ripped up, anyway. Appreciate you sharing the prep details.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:50 AM   #13
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Just make sure you spend good time on prep. And tape up anything that you might want to remove in the future example I didn't put the liner on the mounting point where the roll cage mounts to the floor, because I might want to remove it someday. And I actually had to wait the full 4 hours between coats due to temp outside. And I would recommend removing all tape 3 hours after final coat so it's easier to remove. It can be done in one day and I am going to wait the full 12 hours before I put the seats and all back in. The directions in the package said 10-12 hours for light duty work but my direction from when I did it 5 years ago said wait 5 days for heavy duty work. I kept the directions cause it tells how to clean.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:55 PM   #14
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Great looking project. I bought my Herculiner kit last weekend and plan on doing the project over the Christmas holidays. I have a '97 Sport as well and this will be my first improvement outside of mechanical parts.
If you have time, I had a few questions:
1)Did you use a belt sander? What grit?
2)Any tricks for taping the bolts? I could see myself painting over the tape and not being able to pull it off.
3)How did you handle the drain plugs? Tape over them or keep them open?
4)Did you buy any additional brushes or rollers?
Thanks in advance for the help.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:56 AM   #15
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I used a electric sander in the shape of a teardrop with 120 sandpaper. You should be able to use the belt sander you will just have to do hard to reach places by hand. I got 1/2 inch painters tape (get a good brand) and taped around the vertical sides of the bolt and folded the remainder of the tape onto the head of the bolt. It doesn't have to be fancy tape work just cover it good. The tape will come off easily even with Herculiner if you remove it 2-4 hours after the second coat is applied. For the drain plugs I did them the same way I did the bolts, but used 1 inch tape. Use a razor blade to trim your tape work if needed so that the tape is only on the bolts and drain and not on the floor. One other think I taped was the base of the roll cage in case I ever decide to replace it.
The only thing I bought extra that was not in the kit was acetone, but if you don't want to fool with putting the brush in a bag after the first coat then I would recommend buying a second paint brush. Are you going to be doing this in a garage or outside? If you do it in a garage try to have a good heater to heat it. The colder the weather the longer it takes to dry. I would plan on not driving the Jeep for at least 3 days. I did the prep on a Friday night painted in on Saturday and let it sit all day Sunday before I put the seats and all back in. Also be careful in colder weather it will run easier. Don't put on thick coats. The 1 Gallon is enough to do 3 coats if needed or wanted.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:00 PM   #16
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Thanks for all the great tips.
I'll be doing this job inside in an unheated garage in January in Colorado so the dry time could take a while. This is my extra vehicle so I can let it sit as long as I need to in order for it to cure.
I'll definitely do the acetone beforehand as I want this to turn out right.
I've got the type of sander you have so it should be just as you described. I was thinking of getting a wire brush attachment for my drill just in case I need to buff some things a little more. I noticed some surface rust around my drain plugs so I might treat those areas before applying the herculiner.
It sounds like I might be have enough left over to paint my rusty side steps on my pick up truck as well. I thought about replacing them but I think I can make them look just as good with some herculiner.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:00 PM   #17
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Anyone use the UV inhibitor? My Herculiner project faded to a chalky gray after a summer in the sun. I just relined everything again with the leftovers I had and this time I want to make sure it stays glossy black.

I know Herculiner sells something, but has anyone tried a clear gloss from Krylon or Rustoleum that is a UV inhibitor?

For example, Lowes sells this that I was thinking of trying: Shop Rust-Oleum 1-Quart Exterior High Gloss Marine Clear Spar Varnish at Lowes.com
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:54 PM   #18
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Duplicolor has Bed Armor. It is supposed to be fade/chip resistant and has kevlar in it. I have some, getting ready to start my project this weekend. I think they are doing a $30 rebate, not sure about the details.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:06 PM   #19
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With the Herculiner I have always just cleaned it with dish soap and it looks good as new.
I have never had Herculiner fade on me. I had it on my last Jeep for a long time and it never faded.
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I am debating which product I want to use (Herc / Monsta / etc. ) but am curious about something.

The jeep I bought is missing drain plugs. A few here, a few there, one back here, another up there. Is there any suggestion to making a plug of some sort for the application process? I was thinking get some styrofoam (spelling*) from Michaels and cutting it to size.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:47 PM   #21
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I would just tape off the edge of the hole where the plug goes. I was missing one and that is what I did.
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Tape off the edges, meaning leave a whole there right. Sorry instructions via text can be open to interpretation and I don't want to have any doubts.
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Tape the edge around the hole where the plug touch the floor then tape the hole.
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With the Herculiner I have always just cleaned it with dish soap and it looks good as new.
I have never had Herculiner fade on me. I had it on my last Jeep for a long time and it never faded.
That's pretty surprising to hear since I know the fading isn't an uncommon occurrence. I ride with the top down for at least 4 months except for when it rains and that's all it took for mine. It definitely wasn't a case of being dirty as the shaded spots were darker.

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