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Old 02-15-2014, 12:05 AM   #1
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Jeep Permanganate

So I figured I've been on here long enough to where I should start on a build thread. In my case it's more of a bolt on thread .
Before we get started, you'll probably only understand the name if you have taken a chemistry with lab class. It's cheesy but I like it

This is what I started with,


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After being dissatisfied with my vehicles figure I decided to start taking it to the gym and pumping some iron. Four years of hard work morphed it into this,


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Obviously it's no longer stock since I'm starting the build late.
Here's what I have on it which I won't recount:
*Bearcat 880 w/ 3' firestik
*3" zone lift
*RE adj front lower control arms
*RE adj front trackbar
*33"x12.5" duratracs
*Ultra Motorsports 174 wheels
*5.25" Polk marine grade speakers in the dash
*6" Polk marine grade speakers in the sound bar

I've got more done to it but I'm going to list it off in new posts since for these things I took pictures.

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All right so after installing the lift I had to put on a transfer case drop. I wanted to correct this and run a little more lift since 3" wasn't enough for my 33s at full flex.
I ordered a daystar 1" body lift and a brown dog rubber 1" motor mount lift.
I was impressed with the quality of the daystar kit but I can't say the same about the brown dog motor mounts. This is what they looked like when I got them,


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All though for the most part it was surface rust it was still quite annoying since they were brand new.
I had a few minor issues installing the motor mount lift but for the most part it went well and I was able to take off my transfer case drop. Here's how it sat with the 1" body lift and 1" MML,
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:20 AM   #3
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Next I addressed a very slight oil leak I had behind the valve cover and would drop down to my bell housing.


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Here's how much crud had built up on the cover,


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The pictures don't even do it justice to how dirty it actually was.
So I replaced the valve cover gasket and it seemed to go away but recently I've noticed the leak is back. I'm guessing it's the RMS so that's next on my list to do.
On the bright side, there wasn't any sludge


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Old 02-15-2014, 12:30 AM   #4
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Next I upgraded my steering after bending my drag link and tie rod by hitting a stump.


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So I put in a used drag link I got from a friend in my jeep club and a new moog ZJ V8 tie rod. The difference in thickness is crazy.

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Also, I dented the steering stabilizer so I put a new Monroe one in.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:33 AM   #5
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A little while after this I got tired of not actually having 4 wheel drive so I decided to put in a aussie locker up front.

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The difference it made was amazing. I could do way more climbs before that I would have to give up on or have someone pull me over. For the price and time it took me to do I definitely recommend it to anyone who's considering it.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:38 AM   #6
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After this my jeep didn't get upgrades for quite a while. I just wheeled it and enjoyed it like every jeep should be.
Then after browsing amazon I saw a currie antirock for $300 new... I decided to snatch it up since it was such a good price. It also came with free two day shipping!


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Besides managing to snap a grade 8 bolt off inside the sway bar it went pretty smoothly...

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After finally being able to try it out I can say it is nothing short of amazing. It made my off road and on road driving much better. When I'm wheeling it feels much more stable since it has much less body roll. On the road it made a difference for bumps and potholes. It just seems to float over holes now instead of falling into the hole.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:44 AM   #7
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Here's some pictures of full bump with everything I'm currently running. My front left tire was probably around 3.25 feet above the ground.


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Old 02-15-2014, 12:55 AM   #8
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So here's my future plans:
In June I'm going to get a new rear axle. Probably a dana 44 but I'm torn between buying a JK44 from ECGS or waiting it out on craigslist for a TJ44. The TJ 44s rarely pop up in Florida and when they do they are insanely over priced.
When I get the axle I'm regearing to 4.56 since I don't plan on moving above 33s until I'm done with college. While I'm getting the regear I'll put in a ARB or OX selectable locker in the rear.
I also toyed with the idea of buying a welder, teaching myself to weld, and then setting up the brackets on a 8.8 myself. I'm just not too sure on that idea though since there's no one to watch over my shoulder to make sure the welds are actually correct.
After that I'll get adj control arms all the way around. Either metal cloak or currie. For my current RE front lowers I have I'll probably use the kit metalcloak has and replace the joint with a duroflex joint. Then replace the RE trackbar with a metalcloak one.
Also, I'll probably get a set of rancho 9000XL during shocktober. For the price my 3" zone kit was very good but the shocks are definitely a little too stiff for driving on the road.

Well that's all for now! My build won't progress very fast since I'm on a college budget but hopefully it's entertaining enough
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Jk44 if you have the money for it. It has beefier axle tubes and a stronger gearset than the tj44.
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Jk44 if you have the money for it. It has beefier axle tubes and a stronger gearset than the tj44.
That's what I was originally thinking but after doing some reading I think I'm leaning towards the DIY route I think.
Right now I'm considering getting some 220 run to my house, picking up a used lincoln 220V, and teaching myself to weld by trying to make some bumpers, sliders, etc before and then set up an 8.8 with brackets myself. It's very tempting but it'll definitely have to wait until summer time.
Sure, the Jk44 would be a lot easier but I think in this process the value of acquiring a welder and the skill to weld would be much better then having a stronger axle. For my purposes the 8.8 would do fine as well since I don't plan on going up to 35s until I'm out of college.
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That's what I was originally thinking but after doing some reading I think I'm leaning towards the DIY route I think. Right now I'm considering getting some 220 run to my house, picking up a used lincoln 220V, and teaching myself to weld by trying to make some bumpers, sliders, etc before and then set up an 8.8 with brackets myself. It's very tempting but it'll definitely have to wait until summer time. Sure, the Jk44 would be a lot easier but I think in this process the value of acquiring a welder and the skill to weld would be much better then having a stronger axle. For my purposes the 8.8 would do fine as well since I don't plan on going up to 35s until I'm out of college.
Awesome way to learn. I definitely applaud you for DIY to help learn. I'm considering doing the same, picking up a welding machine, practice on some smaller projects, and diving in. Great work so far.
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Awesome way to learn. I definitely applaud you for DIY to help learn. I'm considering doing the same, picking up a welding machine, practice on some smaller projects, and diving in. Great work so far.
Thanks!
It's definitely not the easy route but I guess in my case the only way to learn is to dive right into it. I don't know anyone who welds so I'll have to find someone to give me some tips but that shouldn't be too difficult. It definitely will prove to be extremely useful in the end!
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Old 02-19-2014, 05:07 PM   #13
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Oi ya m8 we ad ta beat tha fekkin brown dog motor mounts for an fekkin hour each ta get em to go in. Them buggers were a huge splinter in your arse m8 but we beat it out together wot wot get it? Beat it out together
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Looks like a good build! Keep up the good work. By the way, KMnO4 is purple, not magenta you uneducated SWINE. It is magenta in solution, so your jeep should be named Jeep Permanganate(aq)
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Old 02-19-2014, 06:31 PM   #15
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Looks like a good build! Keep up the good work. By the way, KMnO4 is purple, not magenta you uneducated SWINE. It is magenta in solution, so your jeep should be named Jeep Permanganate(aq)
The crystals are purple. When in solution it looks pretty close to a burgundy/pink color.
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Your jeep is more of a red wine. Like a wife who's through with her marriage drinking two boxes of red wine a night red wine
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Your jeep is more of a red wine. Like a wife who's through with her marriage drinking two boxes of red wine a night red wine
Are we speaking from personal experience here?
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Well your first 3 posts in wrangler forum have really brought us some insight. Welcome!
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Old 03-17-2014, 12:30 AM   #20
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Well this wasn't in the plans but after puncturing a sidewall while wheeling I realized how much of a hassle it is not to have a full size spare. I decided to make an investment in it and ordered my dirtworx tire carrier a week ago. It should be here in about two more weeks.
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Best build thread ever.
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Best build thread ever.
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Old 04-28-2014, 01:11 PM   #23
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All right so after a long year at school I decided to splurge myself on not only a rear bumper, but also a front bumper. The dirtworx rear tire carrier and rear bumper is very nice. It fit perfectly, had very good welds, and doesn't make any noise at all. The only complaint I have is I was told 3 weeks for the bumper to be made and shipped to my house and it ended up taking around a month and a half. I got it powder coated a textured black color and it turned out really nice.

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For the front bumper I knew I wanted a stubby bumper. After some research I went with Or-Fabs stubby stinger bumper. It came all ready powder coated and seemed to be made very well. I did have one issue with one hole slightly off so I had to bore out the hole a tad to make it work. Other then that it seems like a really solid bumper and I really like it so far.

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Old 04-29-2014, 09:32 PM   #24
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Jeep beach was a blast! Even though one part of the obstacle course did get the best of me. I'm not really sure how this happened but my driveshaft literally twisted in half!

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Well luckily for me I managed to find a guy with a spare driveshaft there that fit. $30 later and a few minutes laying on a the ground of a hotel parking lot and I was good to go .

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