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Old 06-29-2012, 02:54 AM   #121
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Back at it!

Its definitely been a while since I posted anything - life has been busy. Just over 2 weeks ago my wife and I had our first child, a son It just so happens that he turned out to be the absolute cutest baby in the entire world... at least I think so He even got his first jeep ride already

Anyways, on to the jeep. Since my last post, not much has changed. I drive her daily, and really enjoy the handling of my jeep overall. One of the guys that works for me drove it a month or two ago and commented "wow, this thing handles really nice. I thought it would be way sloppier with the big tires".

The only complaint I had with all of the work that I did so far was that I had to shim out my steering stops (4 washers I think, maybe 5) in order to keep my tires from rubbing on the sway bar. It wasn't anything horribel, but we had a customer come in with a TJ, and as I was pulling it into the shop, I realized just how crazy tight a TJ's turning radius is, and I missed not having that in mine

Because of this, I decided to act on what I had planned to do for a while - add a currie antirock swaybar. These swaybars hug the frame rail much more tightly, and would allow me to take out most if not all of the washers on my steering stops. So I ordered one, and it arrived this week.

First things first, I had to modify my Bestop Highrock bumper, because the tube that the swaybar goes through was partially covered.


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Old 06-29-2012, 02:57 AM   #122
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I busted out the grinder, and had the bumper cut in fairly short order. After looking at the antirock, I worried that the arms on the new swaybar kit might actually make contact with the bottom of the bumper. It would be close though, so I wouldnt really know til I test fit it.

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working on getting the old swaybar off


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Old 06-29-2012, 03:02 AM   #123
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We got the poly bushings pounded in, but had to remove some rust/junk from the tubes first. Even after that was done, it was significantly harder than I thought it would be to pound them in. It took many healthy whacks with the 5 pound maul.



After the bushings were in, the arms slid right on. The kit is well designed. There are bolts that stick out from the frame rail for the steering box, but the antirock arm clears them nicely, while not sticking out from the frame excessively.

In the instructions for the antirock, it says that it is designed for a jeep with 4 inches of lift. Mine has none. I was worried that the arms would be slightly too long, and would hit on the spring. They don't though, and clear nicely.

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Old 06-29-2012, 03:21 AM   #124
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We trimmed the links down as short as we could, however even at their shortest they do not allow the arms to be parallel. I may hunt for some shorter links, but i have a feeling they might be kind of hard to find, seeing as one of the threads is reverse. The bumper went back on and thankfully the arm did not hit anywhere else on the bumper, and no other trimming was needed.

We started doing tests for clearance and found out that, while the arm itself hugs the frame rail much more tightly, when the link is installed in the first hole (firmest setting) my tire rubs on the link itself. Because of this, we had to move them back two holes. After doing some measuring, we determined that the links would be able to be in the 2nd hole without any rubbing, but didn't change it for the time being.



After this, I took out all the washers in my steering stops, and am happy to say that of the turning radius that I lost, I have gotten about 90 percent back. I discovered that the tire actually BAAAREEELLLY rubs on the lower control arm when it is at full lock, and as such I think that is a sufficent excuse to purchase some new currie adjustable lower control arms in the near future. I wanted to get them anyways, right?

One of my biggest worries with the antirock was the additional body roll. I drive my vehicle in town a lot, in what I would describe as a "spirited manner". Ok, I'll admit I drive like a banshee. A banshee that is 10 minutes late. And has to pee. Anyways, I took my jeep for a test drive with the antirock on its firmest setting, and there was defeinitely what I would describe as a substantial difference between the factory bar.

I know that I probably need new shocks also, but even with new shocks I'm not sure if i'm going to be satisfied with how much body roll the antirock allows. It is definitely quite a bit more than stock.

In the future, I may toy with a few other ideas, such as possibly figuring out a way to use the antirock pieces in the factory swaybar location, or possibly talking to currie and seeing if they would be wiling to make me a custom bar that is not machined down in the middle (the bar ends are 1" or 1 1/4", but the center section of the bar is machined down to 3/4").

I know I may get flamed for those "out of the box" ideas, and might get comments such as "durr its a jeep durr... its not going to ride like a sports car". But to be honest with you, I think that people who say that sound kind of ignorant. Anyways, I'm not all that concerned with what other people think, because I know exactly how I want my jeep, and I love it to pieces And it makes me very happy. I can't help but smile every time I look at. Sometimes I even talk to it when i'm walking up to it... and tell it hello... and that I like to drive her... and thank you for being such a good jeep. Anyways, back on track...

For the time being, I'm actually quite happy with the antirock. The product quality is top notch, and installation was easy. I'm going to drive it for a while before I worry too much about trying to firm up the anti-roll, and enjoy being able to turn tightly in parking lots and the like. Anyways, hope everyone is doing well out in jeep land, and I'll make sure I post more if I do any more work.

Peace out for now!
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Old 06-29-2012, 10:17 AM   #125
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Anyways, I took my jeep for a test drive with the antirock on its firmest setting, and there was defeinitely what I would describe as a substantial difference between the factory bar.

I know that I probably need new shocks also, but even with new shocks I'm not sure if i'm going to be satisfied with how much body roll the antirock allows. It is definitely quite a bit more than stock.
That is what I've expected. It's good to hear an unbiased opinion on the AR. I'm in the same boat and don't like body roll.

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and might get comments such as "durr its a jeep durr... its not going to ride like a sports car". But to be honest with you, I think that people who say that sound kind of ignorant.
haha, me too. I think the same thing when people say that their jeep "handles like its on rails". They must have never driven a vehicle that really handles because even if you lowered a jeep 4" from stock and put low profile, wide tires on it, its still never going to handle like a performance car.
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Old 06-29-2012, 06:27 PM   #126
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I ordered 4 rancho 9000xl shocks today, I'll keep you updated as to what the ride is like after they are installed I'm hoping it will make a positive difference, but I fear that the extra body roll is going to be significant. We will see.
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Just got these in today. Hopefully the perform better than the factory ones that have leaked out all of their oil I'll update everyone after they are installed as to any difference they make regarding the antirock up front.

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Old 07-05-2012, 03:37 PM   #128
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Also, just curious but does anyone have any secret trick for getting the boots on to these things? I'm sure I can get it done but it seems like its going to be a little tedious. Any suggestions?
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:37 AM   #129
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Well, the new shocks went on without any major issues, I didn't take any pictures of the install because it was so straightforward. I do have some intersting stuff to report in regards to the change in ride quality and body roll, but I don't have time right now to post what i'd like to. I will try to make time later today or tomorrow to comment on it.

I did however get my next toys in the mail today - New Front lower control arms from currie The goal of adding these (for the time being) is to eliminate the tiny bit of tire rub that I currently have on them. Having these also opens up more options for me down the road, and I will most likely replace all of the control arms with these as funds and time become available.

So for now just a picture, but soon I will post more in depth regarding the new benefits of the Rancho shocks.

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Old 07-14-2012, 01:16 AM   #130
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Also, just curious but does anyone have any secret trick for getting the boots on to these things? I'm sure I can get it done but it seems like its going to be a little tedious. Any suggestions?
They are GREAT shocks! I have the 15" travel shocks from them. But my shocks didn't have that funky top. This is what my shocks looked like.
That is my stock front shock next to my new front shock

I love those shocks and if your staying with a short arm lift and you don't want to rub your lower CAs check these out....
Rusty's Control Arms - Custom for Stock Wheels (pair) - TJ/LJ Wrangler, Rubicon & Unlimited ('97-'06) - Jeep Control Arms & Accessories - Jeep Suspension
I was going to get these but than I decided to build a long arm suspension.
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Old 07-14-2012, 05:18 PM   #131
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Those arms are defintely interesting. If they were adjustable and hadnt already ordered the curries, I would at least consider them.

Anyways, today was kind of a lazy Saturday so i decided to go down to the shop and start putzing around with installing my new front lower control arms. Ive never done this before - wasnt so much concerned with not being able to do it, but I wanted to not rush myself and make sure that I did stuff right the first time.

First off I decided to just pull one of the factory arms out and do some of my own measuring. Arm came out pretty easy -



Old and new, together in a happy pile

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Those arms are defintely interesting. If they were adjustable and hadnt already ordered the curries, I would at least consider them.

Anyways, today was kind of a lazy Saturday so i decided to go down to the shop and start putzing around with installing my new front lower control arms. Ive never done this before - wasnt so much concerned with not being able to do it, but I wanted to not rush myself and make sure that I did stuff right the first time.

First off I decided to just pull one of the factory arms out and do some of my own measuring. Arm came out pretty easy -



Old and new, together in a happy pile

nothing beats when you take the stock control arms and you feel how weak and light they are, then grab the new arms and you how much better built they are than the stock ones! cheers man!

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