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Old 08-01-2012, 12:11 AM   #601
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My dad has a 3/4 Set and a 1 inch set Also a 3/4 and 1" Impact. He has huge dump trucks So We got heavy Duty tools! but If there is somthing I dont have.. I can get it. I will probly be getting the D60 first and then I will find the Sterling. Or.. If i find them bolth at the same time.. That'll work! It will be a long drawn out build becuse I dont have like any $ right now. Getting married In three weeks! but over the winter.. Hopefully I can slowly build my dream axles

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I have a question. What does full float mean?

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It means that none of the weight of the vehicle is supported by the axle shafts themselves, instead the bearings take the load, and all the axle shafts do is provide forward or rearward movement. In semi float axles, the weight of the vehicle is supported on the shafts, and they provide movement.. With FF axle shafts they can make them of metal that is very strong against rotational forces and twisting, etc.. But would otherwise be much weaker in supporting a load.

Front axles by very nature are full floating, and one of the reasons the d30 is stronger than a d35, even though the components of a 35 are larger and would ideally be stronger.

Not all rear d60s, or even s10.25s are 1 ton btw, imo it takes the axle being a full float to be a 1 ton.. Otherwise in the case of the 60/10.25 if they aren't ff then they are 3/4ton
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Its also worth noting that axle ratings really don't apply to the actual load capacity anymore, and haven't since probably the 50s or 60s..

You can throw a ton (2000) lbs in the back of a f150 and be just fine, and yet an f150 is rated as a 1/2ton vehicle..
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:27 AM   #605
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Good to know about the full floating thing! So the Front D60.. It is giving me options for reverse or regular gearing.. It's standard right?
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Thanks. However I do like putting pallets of block into the 1/2 ton pick ups that would come into work.... the owners would crap themselves.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:29 AM   #607
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Oh and anoyone have a gear recommendation? IT will be.. SBC 350 Th350 tranny np231 Tcase D60 And 40 inch tires.. I want to keep the Ring and pinon strong as I can..
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Good to know about the full floating thing! So the Front D60.. It is giving me options for reverse or regular gearing.. It's standard right?
High pinion is reverse cut, low pinion is standard cut
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Oh and anoyone have a gear recommendation? IT will be.. SBC 350 Th350 tranny np231 Tcase D60 And 40 inch tires.. I want to keep the Ring and pinon strong as I can..
What's the optimal cruising rpms for that motor and i can give you a good idea of what gear ratio to go with
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:35 AM   #610
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Hmm Scense My RPM's are off becuse of my gauge being a I6 Gauge and my engine being a v8 the RPM's are off. But I dont even use 4LO becuse the crawl speed to to high. right now i have 4.10's and 35 inch tires. why are Reverse cut gears so much cheaper?
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:46 AM   #611
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That im not sure of really.. Lol

You have stumped me, that or im out of knowledge to vomit
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:23 AM   #612
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Lol alright after more research. .. im going to try to locate a kingpin model. Or I would have to spend nearly 400$ in outers to make a high steer system.. im going to the scrap yard tomorrow just to get d look at whats in the area
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:25 AM   #613
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I wish you luck, around here all the high demand parts go to the non self service yards and you pay top dollar for them.

Kingpins go for around $1300 here
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Hmm Scense My RPM's are off becuse of my gauge being a I6 Gauge and my engine being a v8 the RPM's are off. But I dont even use 4LO becuse the crawl speed to to high. right now i have 4.10's and 35 inch tires. why are Reverse cut gears so much cheaper?
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I usually cruise mine around 2-3000
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:56 AM   #615
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If thats the case ill just go with a standard One. But if I can get my hands on a kingpin.. ill snatch it up
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:55 AM   #616
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Only 60 I found at a local yard is a ball joint with what looks like.. vac engage. Are these good er not? I would put a posi lock engagement instead of vac. Or should I stay away from it?
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:28 PM   #618
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Point taken! Ill only look at manual lock outs from now on
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:46 PM   #619
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Did you get a pic of it by chance?
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:30 PM   #620
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I would not run a sterling (aka a rock bomb) in anything for off road put one in my last big yj that I built very strong axel shafts and decent carrier in them but the housing are junk first time you slam the the chunk down on a rock it with crack all to pieces. Seen it happen like 10 times now besides it happening to me! I would get a corporate 14 bolt Out of an old Chevy 3/4 or 1 ton!
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Old 08-01-2012, 04:11 PM   #621
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i got my own yj back in february and ive been following your build alot. i just joined the forums today tho lol. i just wanted to say i am amazed by your jeep and it is definitely inspiring. i really like your light bar and i am planning on building one for myself but i keep putting it off haha, one of these days i gotta get out and do it
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Old 08-01-2012, 07:34 PM   #622
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Yea I got a pic. I am not near my comp right now.. but it was a coil one.. and had arms on it like a tj does
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Old 08-01-2012, 07:35 PM   #623
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And good to know about the sterling. I still don't know what rear im going with.
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Can I go full hydro steering and use the stock ball joint knuckles?
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:50 PM   #625
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Sure, but i wouldn't go full hydro, just go with hydro assist, reason being, full hydro fails for any reason you have no steering.. Hydro assist fails you still have mechanical linkage, aka still have steering
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I'd be interested in buying one of your lightbars. Or if you don't feel like making them could I have some dimensions, as your design is exactly what I have been looking for. Thank you! Love your build wish I had my YJ to this level.
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Old 08-02-2012, 12:51 AM   #627
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Yea I'd sell my Light bar. How much would It be worth to you? The only reason I want to go full hydro is cuz.. I dont want to buy new knuckles that convert to flat top's So I can put on High steer arms.. So instead.. I would have no linkage and go Full hydro.. I'm going to get the prices all up and compair Pro's and cons. again.. Not doing anything soon! Just weighing all my options. And thanks REDSOCAL!
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just found this little nugget on creigslist. Is this what i need?

This is a Chevy 1-ton Dana 60 front axle complete and a Corporate 14 bolt 10.5 rear end. This would be a good candidate for a bulletproof front and rear end for a good work truck or an offroad / rock crawler build. The axle has 4:10 gears. The rear axle is complete from drum to drum but is not shown in the picture
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If you stop daily driving and start trailering the Jeep then sure go full hydro, but its likely not legal where you are to drive it on the road.. It might have take the right cop who knows what full hydro is before you got a ticket though.. But I'd hate to be stuck somewhere because i can't steer lol
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just found this little nugget on creigslist. Is this what i need?

This is a Chevy 1-ton Dana 60 front axle complete and a Corporate 14 bolt 10.5 rear end. This would be a good candidate for a bulletproof front and rear end for a good work truck or an offroad / rock crawler build. The axle has 4:10 gears. The rear axle is complete from drum to drum but is not shown in the picture
Front won't work unless you change transfer cases for passenger side drop.. Iirc all chebby front axles are low pinion and wrong side drop..

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