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Old 12-29-2013, 02:41 PM   #211
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rock lights done tonight. I sure love these lights. Super cheap and man do they work good.
Those look great. Who makes them?

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Old 01-05-2014, 07:41 PM   #212
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Chris, I just read this entire thread, and I have to say you are my hero right now! LOL I'm budget building mine, but it's NOWHERE near as cool as yours man!

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Absolutely love this!!! Just started reading the entire thread haha. I even get a little kick out of it because my name is Chris and the girl I'm talking to is named Rachel haha. May I ask what kind of welder you use?
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Old 02-06-2015, 11:14 PM   #214
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This build thread is a blast from the past.
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Ill just leave this here.

Lets just say the Jeep has progressed quite a bit.

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Not cool Chris. I think we need some details and maybe another pic or two.
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Not cool Chris. I think we need some details and maybe another pic or two.
If you insist.

will try and catch up
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picked up a d60



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So we had a party at fresh pond for a couple hours because matt had fuel issues. He fixed it before the trip and came up.

We had alex, matt, me, a guy named chad with a samurai buggy, and another guy named jarret with a yj.


Road was plowed up to first dam. Then was pretty snowy. The guy jarret was on 33s I think and had issues on first turn up the slabs after the spillway. It was pretty slick and required some whooopooow. I winched him up and he decided to go home.

We wheeled in a little more and chad had an issue with his inner bead leaking right before gatekeeper. Some more air fixed that. Wheeled without much issue to top of bowl. Then it was interesting. I slid into a small tree that was fallen over and got stuck in my tire/fender. Got it pushed out and winched away from it. Alex went after me and slid into same spot and tree busted his drivers back seat window. We went down into the bowl and it was pretty slick. I made it down ok, so did matt and chad. Alex slid kinda sideways and locked his brakes up and rammed right into a rock. Broke the axle side track bar mount clean off. Also collapsed and tore his drivers lca mount, and dented a shock.

With some creative ratched strapping we got it driveable. Had to do some crazy full throttle assults to make it back up the bowl. Then matt and I hooked together and pulled alex up, then helped chad get that last bit up. I had to winch alex two more times after that up some ledges so we could keep his rig intact.

Made it back to loon staging around 630-7. Left alexs jeep nesr first dam and chad dropped his sammy off in p-ville and came back with alex to tow his jeep home.


























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Here is a good comparison too. Other jeep is 4in spring under with 3/4in lift shackles and new 35mtrs





Mesured for rear shock hoops.



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Old 02-18-2015, 07:41 PM   #224
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Built a 4 link for the rear



Made all those for around $20 and an hours worth of work.

Beats paying over $200 from Ruffstuff

Upper Links x y z
Frame End 37.00 17.50 27.00 in
Axle End 0.00 2.00 27.00 in
Lower Links x y z
Frame End 38.00 19.50 23.00 in
Axle End 3.00 25.00 19.00 in

Top hole
Static Anti-Squat 57 %
Roll Center Height 26 in
Roll Axis Angle 1 degrees (Roll Oversteer)
Instant Center X-Axis 166 in
Instant Center Z-Axis 34 in


middle hole
Static Anti-Squat 76 %
Roll Center Height 27 in
Roll Axis Angle 1 degrees (Roll Oversteer)
Instant Center X-Axis 103 in
Instant Center Z-Axis 28 in


bottom hole

Static Anti-Squat 96 %
Roll Center Height 27 in
Roll Axis Angle 1 degrees (Roll Oversteer)
Instant Center X-Axis 75 in
Instant Center Z-Axis 25 in


























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Norcaljeepers annual rubicon trip.

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Laying down the skinny pedal without worry thanks to the 4 link



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Old 02-18-2015, 07:43 PM   #228
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Linking the rear was so nice. I couldnt stop there


Sooo......





Upper Link x y z
Frame End 41.00 -10.00 26.00 in
Axle End 0.00 -8.00 26.00 in
Lower Links x y z
Frame End 39.00 16.00 21.00 in
Axle End -2.00 21.50 19.00 in
Pannhard Bar x y z
Frame End -5.00 -14.50 26.00 in
Axle End -5.00 20.00 26.00 in

Geometry Summary:
Anti-Squat 55.12 %
Roll Axis Angle 0.29 degrees ( - roll understeer, + roll oversteer)
Roll Center Height 26.03 in
Instant Center X-Axis 141.50 in
Instant Center Z-Axis 26.00 in
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Past the point of no return.


Hopefully have the new frame section done in the next few hours and the steering box mountes in its new location.
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Just need to cut out frame plates for frameside and that parts done. Bending my 1.75 for my shock hoops tommorow. And then start assembling



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Links all heavy tacked in. Cycled suspension 50000 times. Got hoops in, and need to fit coilovers in and cycle it all again.

Then finish weld everything.











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Old 02-18-2015, 07:45 PM   #232
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So it is finished- sorta.

Everything is gusseted/welded/painted.

Need to re assemble everything.

Need to buy some more shock bolts, since mine dissapeared
Need to buy one more 3/4x 4.5 bolt, Becuase I welded the lowers in wrong, and Had to cut the bolt out. Whoops.

Then its all the finish stuff. ( mount elec fan, reroute fuel lines in hole in upper mount gusset, deal with exhaust, etc)

Full droop





Ride height (minus winch and being on level ground. Looks like im pretty close to what i Wanted.



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I had issues with bending my skid, and not being able to brace it enough for it to not bend in its current configuration. Had an idea.


Cut back my Lower link brackets and shoved the 2x2 in place. This let me tie into them, and be able to move the bolts for my skid to the sides and get rid of those aweful nutserts.



Made a pair of 2in strap peices to go on either side of the tube. Also made a 1x2 framework inside to keep it reinforced.





I ran out of 1x2. Gonna throw a couple more braces in there since I seem to be quite hard on my bellypan.

Lost a little bit of belly clearance. But I think it was worth it. I gained a smoother transition to my lowers, and a skid I can beat on without worrying about it.
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New bumper



Steering box skid.



Wheelin



Trip to Sand mountain. Jeep does great on the flats at 50mph over the sand. :woot:


Trip to moonrocks

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Snow Wheelin. Discovered a creek, almost got tugged into a culvert pipe ditch, and did donuts.

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budget update

Rough Numbers.

Purchase -3500
bought d30 locker -250
made rock sliders -80
made fenders -30
bought taillights -40
Sold 33s +750
bought 35s -350
made roof rack -80
bought 8.8 +perches brakelines -240
Sold 4.56geared 30 and 35 +400
d30 front to match 8.8 = free
Made flat skid -60
xj rear stretch -60
made motor mounts -30
Made tranny mount -20
Bought 10b and 14b -500
bought 37s and rims -300
sold d30 and 8.8 +400
Sold 35s +350
Sold teralow +800
Bough 231 and doubler plate -450
bought d300 -350
made cable shifter -110
yj front spring over -70

bought front MTRs -100
Bought h1 beadlocks -200
Bought tube for cage -200
Sold hardtop +1300
Bought soft top -330
seats and harnesses -400
fixed rear driveshaft to 1350 -180
bought winch -500



Bought hydro assist and cooler -200
Bought dana 60 -900
steering arms, bearings, tierod, etc -200
Sold old 10bolt axle +500
Sold 37s +150
Bought 39.5s -320
Sold bilstiens +40
Bought 14in bilstiens -200
4 link -250
Sold xj springs +80
Bought coilovers -530
3 link front -600

So that is $6860 Not including Consumables and Im sure im forgetting some little things.
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Thanks for the update. That thing looks like it is performing great.

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