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Old 11-11-2013, 08:53 PM   #1
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finally I'll show ya'll my build

I'm finally going to do a build thread, taking pics tmrw

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Old 11-11-2013, 09:45 PM   #2
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So this is how I got it. POS pro-comp lift, no top or hardware, no passenger seat, no glove box or center console, broken windshield, gas tank with 3 major holes, no front drive shaft and the engine was not taken care of at all, tranny was shot, different size tires front and rear, front shackles that were rectangular cut outs that didn't allow movement because they rested against the front bumper, and too many other problems to list. Most money I put into it was getting parts that were missing.
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Expect a couple gaps where stuff was just fixed because I was not taking pictures or giving the jeep all the time because of this project.....
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Before pic of the firebird
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Is that a Chevelle or 442 or something behind the Firebird? My buddys dad had a white firechicken like that. I think it was a 67 or 68 maybe. He blipped the throttle pulling into the gas station one day and ran it through two chainlink fences out onto the next street.lol The throttle stuck when he blipped it. His dad was PISSED!
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Is that a Chevelle or 442 or something behind the Firebird? My buddys dad had a white firechicken like that. I think it was a 67 or 68 maybe. He blipped the throttle pulling into the gas station one day and ran it through two chainlink fences out onto the next street.lol The throttle stuck when he blipped it. His dad was PISSED!
Buick skylark, it's the same body style as a chevelle though. It's my bosses project vehicle
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So I had to clean some stuff up in my bosses shop and found enough stock and a few big rig trailer shackles to build my new rear bumper minus a tire carrier for now. I turtled my jeep so my old one broke.

I sheared off the bolt heads that held my old bumper in place because they rust froze in their locations (last time I don't use grade 8 and anti-seize). Might be hard to see from picture.


Now some of you might have a better method but I decided to use a plumbers wrench to remove the studs.


And after 20 minutes of hard work plus a few slurs for each bolt, I got them out.


Will post more when I get to cutting and welding....
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Old 11-20-2013, 07:15 PM   #8
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good idea with the pipe wrench. Looks like a good start to a bumper.
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So back when I broke my rear dana 44 and wanted to swap an 8.8, nwbronco said that an 8.8 lsd is not so good,
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Coming from Ford for a long time to Jeep. I'd stay away from the 8.8LSD if you are going to put 35's or larger. They clutch pac shims go into a notch cut into the carrier. It makes it weaker there. On the 8.8s in the F150 and full size Broncos, these would shear at those cutouts when put behind the V8s and big meats. I had to rebuild a few of them.

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Well he was right lol. It's raining in my area today which is very rare and I wanted to get the wrangler dirty, so I headed out to the wash and on my way leaving I had to go up a hill and I heard something snap.
Since this is my daily driver, I'm going to have to put the turdy-five back in with 3.07 gears until I get this fixed lol. All of you with an 8.8 lsd be warned, this was with 31" tires and a 4.2l!
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Man that sucks.. Ive never heard the term "turtled" before but I already like it. What is it though?
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Man that sucks.. Ive never heard the term "turtled" before but I already like it. What is it though?
My old rear tire carrier stopped me from completely flipping over when I wa going up a hill that was too steep, and I was stuck on the rear tire carrier and had a hard time getting on all fours again lol. My tailgate sustained a lot of damage, and my old tire carrier and bumper are toast. Everything always goes wrong on my jeep and I don't understand why I've broken 4 different rear ends, 2 dana 35's, dana 44, and now the "tough" 8.8. I'm not even hard on my vehicle
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My old rear tire carrier stopped me from completely flipping over when I wa going up a hill that was too steep, and I was stuck on the rear tire carrier and had a hard time getting on all fours again lol. My tailgate sustained a lot of damage, and my old tire carrier and bumper are toast. Everything always goes wrong on my jeep and I don't understand why I've broken 4 different rear ends, 2 dana 35's, dana 44, and now the "tough" 8.8. I'm not even hard on my vehicle
I think your definition of "hard on a vehicle" differs from mine. Maybe you should be driving a tank, lol. Hope you get it running soon.
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I was gonna say it seems like you have trouble with rear ends. I only knew about the D44 and 8.8.hahaha Adding 2 d35s doesnt really count though. Everybody breaks those.

I think the limited slip is the weak spot with the 8.8 though. Find yourself a full carrier locker for that puppy and it will be good to go. If you look at the the strength charts (or whatever theyre called) the 8.8 is right under the d60..
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I think your definition of "hard on a vehicle" differs from mine. Maybe you should be driving a tank, lol. Hope you get it running soon.
Compare to many people I go wheeling with, I'm very easy on my Jeep; however, I would take a tank in a heartbeat

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I was gonna say it seems like you have trouble with rear ends. I only knew about the D44 and 8.8.hahaha Adding 2 d35s doesnt really count though. Everybody breaks those.

I think the limited slip is the weak spot with the 8.8 though. Find yourself a full carrier locker for that puppy and it will be good to go. If you look at the the strength charts (or whatever theyre called) the 8.8 is right under the d60..
It is a great axle, nothing broke or got messed up except the limited slip, I'm waiting for an ox locker to match my front. I think it broke because the very muddy hill I was going up made me really spin my tires then one tire got full traction on a rock while the other tire was still spinning, then I heard a loud snap. I had to put the stock axles back on that have a 3.07 gear ratio for now, and that is the greatest downgrade a jeep can receive. I couldn't drive up the mountains yesterday in any gear higher than 3rd, but the dana 35 didn't break going on a pretty difficult trail.
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Grabbing like that is the demise of many good drivetrain parts. Dont try that with the 35 in there.lol Ive beat on mine pretty hard with a locker in it but its only a matter of time... Although mine should last quite a bit longer cause my jeep dont run currently...
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So I didn't take pictures of building the bumper, but this is what I got done. This is a definite temporary bumper as it is too narrow for my liking. An old man (the old guy in the truck yard that still wants to be useful) who cut out the hole for the hitch is to blame, couldn't get it centered I guess so I had to take 5" of one side to center the hitch reciever .


Don't mind the crappy welds either lol, I let my brother get some practice since I'm going to have to build another for reasons mentioned above
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I have this thing almost ready to go on though, just need to make a stinger bent up for it!
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That front bumper looks real nice. I assume you made that? I don't mind the length of the rear at all, but it is your Jeep. If you are not happy with it who am I to disagree.
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Somebody will buy that rear bumper when your done with it. It looks pretty good... The front one kicks @$$
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That front bumper looks real nice. I assume you made that? I don't mind the length of the rear at all, but it is your Jeep. If you are not happy with it who am I to disagree.
The front is my work, and I only want the rear longer so I can build a good size tire carrier soon. I might try to clean it up and sell it, or I might keep it for a while.
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Somebody will buy that rear bumper when your done with it. It looks pretty good... The front one kicks @$$
3/16" sheet metal can work nicely, just takes a lot more time to work with
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I think the bumper looks great. If you decide you want to make a bolt-on tire carrier like mine, you can use mine as a pattern. I like it because it opens with the door
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Bump. Update.
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Bump. Update.
I usually don't take pictures of stuff I do. I'm working on an external slave swap right now I could probably post up
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You've at least geared/locked the axles since the last update no? But I hear ya. I am a picture taking kind of guy cuz I like to stare at my Jeep parts when I have nothing to do at work. I probably watched that video of my jeep idling a dozen times at work on Tuesday.
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You've at least geared/locked the axles since the last update no? But I hear ya. I am a picture taking kind of guy cuz I like to stare at my Jeep parts when I have nothing to do at work. I probably watched that video of my jeep idling a dozen times at work on Tuesday.
I've done quite a bit of stuff: geared, locked, built a heavy duty np231 using a 99 tj np231j and a 96 durango np231d hd, been trying to figure out how I want to go fuel injection.

I do have pictures of before and after regearing of a buddy's dana 30 I did for him for his yj. My garage was messy during the gear swap because just moved again.

Before, I had geared it to 3.73 for his 31's but now after 5 months he wants 4.56 for 35's
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Since wombat_ranger pointed out that I have a build thread that I've hardly posted anything on, I'll start no matter how much I just like to get the job done so I can actually wheel the jeep.

So a month or so ago I was driving my jeep after getting the engine put back in (kept the motorcraft 2100 for now instead of fuel injection yet) and a semi truck cut me off on the freeway so I slammed on the brakes while in 5th gear and now fifth gear is gone. Sucks not being able to take the freeway because of 35's and 4th gear max with 4.56 gearing. Also after going through 4 slave cylinders in an internal slave ax15, I'm done with internal.

So I went to the pull yard during black friday weekend to look for some ax15's, got lucky too! 2 xj's had them. A 92 4 wheel drive and a 94 2 wheel drive. Grabbed both so I can rebuild one for a direct swap and use the 2 wheel drive one for parts to fix the one currently in my wrangler to sell. Half off day at the pull yard meant both were $150 together. Swapped the bearing retainer, bellhousing, and clutch fork off the 94 to the 92 after rebuilding the 92. I should be finishing this swap once school for the semester is over and I just have work.

The parts I got for the swap:

1. 94 wrangler clutch kit from autozone (I work at autozone and the kit has a lifetime warranty)

2. New ax15 rebuild kit, clutch pivot, and clutch fork retaining spring from quadratec

3. New adapter pilot bushing from the good guys at novak

4. Pre bled master and slave cylinder made by omix-ada from amazon






I'll be taking the tail housing off the ax15 from my wrangler during the swap so the clocking and everything else is right!




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$150 for a pair of AX15's is great. People around here are nuts. I see them listed usuallu for $400 used, one guy even thinks he can get $750 for his. I picked mine up for $80 and slapped it in, no rebuild and it works great.
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Ya, I had a ba/10 when I first got my jeep. I got the ax15 from someone in my club for free because the third gear synchro was shot so I rebuilt it and threw it in. Had to get a 23 spline transfer case though.

And I agree, used without rebuild $250 max. With a rebuild I could see paying $550-700
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I have a 241 in my shed that I blew to bits (from the truck I traded for the jeep actually) in the shed, so I just grabbed the 23 spline input and swapped it in the Jeep case when I went from the BA10/5. I initially used the 6 gear planetary too but it just didn't feel like it was meshing well with the outer ring gear thing that the planetary rides in once I got it together, so I put the stock planetary back in.

Funny thing I actually got $220 selling my Peugeot tranny, and so I made $140 profit on my tranny swap.


I just don't see them being worth much when I can pick up beater xj's for $500, manual or auto.

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