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Old 07-28-2012, 09:07 AM   #1
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Jeep TJ hardtop given to me... I have a YJ...Strategy for using this ?

Hello-

I've got an '89 Jeep Wrangler, YJ series.... I've driven it with a soft top as long as I've owned it - Since 1992.

A neighbor has a 1997 Jeep Wrangler (TJ Series I think), and had the glass rear right window break - he replaced it with a soft top. He offered the hard top to me as-isand I took it, knowing it might need some adjusting to work on my Jeep. I can get the replacement glass for it no problem.

I am in New Jersey, and am planning on using this for the late fall through early spring.

I have a few ideas of what I want to do and need to do, but please let me know if I'm missing anything, or making a mistake.

I understand I need to remove the rails the soft top clips into on the Jeep all-round. Fine.

I understand the hard top itself will fit correctly on the jeep body.
I plan to replace appropriate rubber grommets, etc. for the hard top.

I have the correct bolt set that came with it to secure it.

Items I'm not too clear on....

I have the steel 1/2 door original to my jeep[with squared-off tops], and do not want to modify the jeep itself. So, I don't want to change doors entirely. I don't want to modify the door latch pin on the jeep to use TJ doors - I'm happy to continue using standard YJ doors unmodified for summer...and don't want to cut metal I don't have to.

I would obtain top halves of these doors that have the glass sliders to put on the YJ bottom halves.

To fit the curve of the hard top where the doors will meet it, I will then need top half-doors for the TJ Series jeeps.... I think that of the three pins that slide in to secure the top half to the bottom half door, the backmost one may need to be cut off with an angle grinder. Will this work, or am I missing something?

Also, I know the clip-fastening mechanism for the front top of the door to the windshield frame on the TJ hard top is different than how the YJ hardtop would be secured. I understand that with the TJ hardtop there may be a gap. is this small enough that I can just use a long piece of dense rubber as a thick gasket, is there a cheap aftermarket adapter I can get?
Any suggestions?

So, I'm looking at:

- Getting new half-door tops, and modifying them - hopefully just cutting one pin.

- Dealing with mating the front of the hard to to the windshield frame.

The best part is that my Jeep is black and the hard top matches. I'm hoping this will work out, and am looking forward to hearing your suggestions.

Many thanks for the help...

-- Sam

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Old 07-28-2012, 09:11 AM   #2
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OR Replace glass on TJ hardtop. sell top for 500-1000 dollars and then buy correct used YJ hard top for 400.. win win...

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Old 07-28-2012, 09:55 AM   #3
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getting the hardtop to mate with your windshield frame will be difficult.

The angle of the windshield frame is different between to 2 Jeeps TJ &YJ, so the front of the top isnt going to seal correctly, which will let an air space.

That means moisture, water, snow, ice, and the likes will be able to get in there, I'm not saying that its impossible to do, but its going to be a challenge to get it sealed.

You will have the same problem with the top half of a TJ door on a YJ half door bottom. Not only are the pins not going to line up, but the angle of the windshield is different, so sealing will be an issue, it might look good, but if it leaks, what good is it?

I would agree with 4jeepn...fix and sell the TJ hardtop, and get a used YJ/CJ7 hardtop made for your machine.
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:11 AM   #4
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OR Replace glass on TJ hardtop. sell top for 500-1000 dollars and then buy correct used YJ hard top for 400.. win win...
I was going to say the same thing. I recently sold my hard top for $800 - I had offers which could have pushed the price higher. Buy a top which will fit your Jeep - these things are heavy and difficult to work with as it is.
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I have a TJ top on my YJ. It will work and seal well, it just takes a fair bit of grinding due to the angle of the windshield. Just know up front grinding fiberglass kinda sucks.

If you are willing to give it a go it can work just fine.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:16 AM   #6
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Thanks for the information guys. I really appreciate it.
Not sure what I will do yet, but I feel a lot better knowing what my options are.
I'll post what I decide to do with it, and let you know how it works out...

Jericho - Just curious, how did the doors work out for you with the TJ hard top?

Thanks again...

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OR Replace glass on TJ hardtop. sell top for 500-1000 dollars and then buy correct used YJ hard top for 400.. win win...
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Sam,

The trailing edge of the doors is the same, so that part fit without an issue. If you decide you want to try it let me know, and I can snap you some pics of my hard top where it had to be ground.
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Sounds good....

Jerricho -

When you can, please send me photos to:

samnitzberg AT yahoo DOT com

Based on your information and the photos you will take which will help greatly, my plan is to go ahead with this little project.

I will plan to get YJ door top halves with sliders (my door top halves are due for replacement anyway).

I will plan to get help from a friend of mine with the grinding. It should work out fine it sounds like....

Only last question I have would be that the screws holding in the soft top rails have been on since production (1989). Do I need to do anything special to free them without risking damage, or should I leave that step to a good mechanic?

Many thanks again.... I will plan to modify the top going into the fall...
I will post pictures assuming it works out.

Thanks again to all who helped me with this.....

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Old 09-15-2012, 05:33 AM   #10
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Update -

I don't have the time for another project right now (even a small one)..... and don't think I want to spend the time right now to modify the roof and hope I get it right.

It looks like I've got a buyer for the TJ Hardtop as-is and he's picking it up and will put the new glass in. I'm going to use the money to pay for the most recent Jeep repair - installing the replacement windshield I ordered and some work on a 4WD issue. He's also getting a good deal on the roof.

Again, thank you for the advice.... -- Sam
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Do they make a targa or two or three piece hard top for the 89 yj?

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