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Old 06-07-2009, 04:18 PM   #1
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my 900 dollar yj project

picked it up this morning, shes a rusty girl, but runs like a champ, 4wd works, but the main problem is the frame right below the drivers side seat has cracked.. whats the best method of repairing it or is this a nonrepairable deal?

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guess noone has fixed a rusted through frame rail before.. hmm

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I have seen lots
of fixes
it looked like they use
a heavy steel stock cut to fit side of frame both sides
have seen full boxed enclosed
and weld
They look stong
I think its tricky though heating and welding on the frame but
not weakening it
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I have seen lots
of fixes
it looked like they use
a heavy steel stock cut to fit side of frame both sides
have seen full boxed enclosed
and weld
They look stong
I think its tricky though heating and welding on the frame but
not weakening it
i thought about bolting the plate over the crack, then welding the plate onto it, the crack is right in front of the rear leaf spring on the driver side
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Make sure you sand all the rust down with a wire wheel or something to remove all of the dust and then paint over it with an actual rust stopping paint such as POR-15 or else it will just spread and get worse.
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Make sure you sand all the rust down with a wire wheel or something to remove all of the dust and then paint over it with an actual rust stopping paint such as POR-15 or else it will just spread and get worse.
thats exactly what im gonna do as soon as it cools down.. we repaired it all, turned out good other than i found out my rear u-joint, tranny mount, and leaf springs are shot, my buddy has a set of rubicon leaf springs off his tj, can these be used on a YJ?
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Old 06-15-2009, 05:25 PM   #7
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TJ's have coil springs. YJ's have leaf springs. There is no way he had leaf springs under his TJ unless he switched them out, which would be a very involved and useless swap.
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TJ's have coil springs. YJ's have leaf springs. There is no way he had leaf springs under his TJ unless he switched them out, which would be a very involved and useless swap.
new news to me. im stil naive when it comes to jeeps, plus the springs he had were like a half an inch narrower then mine, mine were like 2 1/2 wide, his were like 2 inches, prolly were off his cj and he got em mistaken, but im gonna just order new springs, and shocks, and all the hardware, and do a shackle lift, jeep has 31's on it already and i dont plan on seriously offroading it
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sounds like a nice parts jeep.
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sounds like a nice parts jeep.
i dont see a point in parting out a perfectly running jeep wrangler.. sorry to disagree with you
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new news to me. im stil naive when it comes to jeeps, plus the springs he had were like a half an inch narrower then mine, mine were like 2 1/2 wide, his were like 2 inches, prolly were off his cj and he got em mistaken, but im gonna just order new springs, and shocks, and all the hardware, and do a shackle lift, jeep has 31's on it already and i dont plan on seriously offroading it

Hey
a couple things
I would rethink the shackle lift
you say your running 31s you prob already have a shac/lift
new springs and shocks sound great but keep in mind
that rust will limit what you can do

I also run a HEEP that cost me less then a
susp/lift kit

I know what I have and what I can do
with it

Also have seen this alot,When you start doing
some work on a jeep other stuff end up
needing work

If its not broke dont fix it,, just run it
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Hey
a couple things
I would rethink the shackle lift
you say your running 31s you prob already have a shac/lift
new springs and shocks sound great but keep in mind
that rust will limit what you can do

I also run a HEEP that cost me less then a
susp/lift kit

I know what I have and what I can do
with it

Also have seen this alot,When you start doing
some work on a jeep other stuff end up
needing work

If its not broke dont fix it,, just run it
exactly.. i have a spare tub(rustfree) and weve reinforced the frame hardcore.. i just bought the thing to have fun with, it survived the drive from chicago to st louis, why part it out? ya know?
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If you are buying new springs and shocks you might as well spend an extra hundred bucks or so and buy a suspension lift kit. Either leave the shackles that are on it or buy stock shackles and replace the ones you have. Too long of a shackle=bad news bears.
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If you are buying new springs and shocks you might as well spend an extra hundred bucks or so and buy a suspension lift kit. Either leave the shackles that are on it or buy stock shackles and replace the ones you have. Too long of a shackle=bad news bears.
ya thatl come later one.. right now i just got the add a leaf kit for the front since its sagging down about an inch lower then back
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Old 06-17-2009, 02:18 PM   #15
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We need some pictures of your new girl. Congrats on a great price and frames can be repaired. Just like you said no sense in parting out a good Jeep.
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We need some pictures of your new girl. Congrats on a great price and frames can be repaired. Just like you said no sense in parting out a good Jeep.
sorry for the long wait on pix, been pretty busy with work, here she is, my 900 dollar ride, ive added the winch, and safari rims, made her more sporty. my rough country lift will be here monday as well as my new super swamper tsl's 33/12.5's while i have the rear end out we are going to add a lot of reinforcing to the frame, and rebuild the back section, i also picked up a new skid plate off a buddy,

heres a few pix, and if anyone wants a pic of something tell me,


the first day i got her




couple hundred dollars later



then the rust







the only rust on the frame is on the drivers side, and ive also found some holes above the rear end starting
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If nothing else, there is always the possibility of getting a new frame. That way you can rust proof as you go.
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:08 PM   #18
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That frame looks pretty bad. It might not even be worth trying to fix it. Depending on how much money you're going to spend on the project you may save time and money with a new frame.
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Old 01-02-2010, 07:45 PM   #19
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That frame is done. I would try to find a frame. I have seen a few around me in the $100-$200 range.
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I would look into a new frame man that one looks very bad looks like it could split in half any time
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One mans junk is anothers treasure. I would have run hard and fast from that one. Needs a frame at the very least. Can't wait to see what you do with it. Good luck!
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check out Craigslist or ebay, there is a guy close by to where I live that keeps Jeep parts. That frame can probably be patched, but that will be a lot of time spent on it. Check out this frame (guy from near me w/ the Jeep parts) Rot Free, Unpatched 1986 Jeep CJ7 Frame
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im keepin my eye open for a good frame, if i swap frames do i need to relicense the jeep? isnt the title with the frame on these?
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I don't think I would worry about it. The Vin plate is at the dash. I am sure there is a vin stamped on the frame somewhere.
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have you checked the tubs floorboards?if thats rusted then you have a problem on your hands check the entire body especailly when seprating the frame from the tub things tend to break real easy.
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i havent noticed any ids marked on the frame there is one on the dash and one near the top right where the electrical harness goes inside just below it. But ask for a bill of sale for your refrences.
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You could possibly check out a junk yard that does a parts search, to see if they can find a cheap frame close by.
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if u realy want to replace the frame its going to be a long process to do it right
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the weird part is its only the drivers side that is rusted through, the passenger side is solid, ive tapped it from front to back, and the steering box area is solid, still had the black paint on it, i think we are just going to rebox the frame, and cut out the 5 inch diameter hole in the drivers side floorboard, and go from there, ive got a mig, and a crapoad of flat steel and angle iron, il make this work =)
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There was a guy here is cali selling "cash for clunker" jeeps, meaning not entire Jeep but parts. He had frames, tubs, axel, seats etc...try craigslist first.

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