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Old 07-30-2014, 07:56 PM   #1
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So I picked up a 1995 Wrangler yesterday will the full intent on this being my project for the winter. I have a big list of things to do such as take the tub off and repair all the rust and sandblast and paint the frame. Also doing a v8 swap to it along with countless other things. My question here is I have a choice between a rebuilt 5.0 efi motor or a brand new crate 350 carbed motor. Both are stock motors. I have all the wiring and everything for the 5.0. The question here is what would you guys do? I'm going to put head, cam, and intake on either motor. So basically I guess it comes down to putting a efi or carbed motor in my wrangler.

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Old 07-30-2014, 10:26 PM   #2
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Another thing the mustang in which the 302 came out of was a manual and I need a automatic. Will the computer still work or no? And what transmission do I need to get with the 302 for the automatic set up

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Old 07-31-2014, 04:54 PM   #3
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Cant go wrong with a 350 but efi is nice too
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Old 07-31-2014, 07:00 PM   #4
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My next project will be a 4.7 stroker with turbo in a cherokee... much easier to do with no wiring harness changes, engine & transmission fitment etc...

I did a 350 in a CJ7 many years ago, but back then we were not dealing with all the little black boxes and sensors.

cant wait to follow your project!
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Old 07-31-2014, 07:17 PM   #5
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Carb vs. EFI depends a lot on what you want to do when your done. If you are going off roading in rough country with steep grades go with EFI, carbs like it level and smooth.

Check out what transmission you are going to use and the adapter requirements. Novak has a lot of information (and parts) related to conversions that will help you decide what you want to do.

I am nearing the end of a project very similar going with a carbed SBC. I used Novak for the adapters and engine mounts and they were great to work with.
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Old 07-31-2014, 07:42 PM   #6
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I believe I'm going to go with the 5.0 with a AOD transmission since it has over drive. I'll be driving this on the road and in the sand dunes. The major thing is I don't know if the wiring harness and computer I have will work since the donor car was a manual and my jeep is an auto
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Old 07-31-2014, 08:56 PM   #7
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this is the start
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Old 08-01-2014, 12:19 AM   #8
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Excited to see how this one goes
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Old 08-01-2014, 09:06 AM   #9
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So my efi question was answered. Now to start the build. The tear down will be started this weekend. The goal is to have completion by may of next year. That's the total project done. Hope to have everything sand blasted and ready for repair within a month
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Old 08-02-2014, 07:33 PM   #10
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Need to think of a name for my jeep the wife isnt helping lol. But here is a pic from the couples hours I got to work on it today after work. Got the interior taken out. Needs new floor pan pan on drivers side along with metal that mounts the seatbelt retractor.
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Old 08-02-2014, 08:53 PM   #11
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Welcome, I'm going to do similar 5.0 swap in mine beginning of next year, I'm using 93' 5.0 EFI with 347 stroker kit , I found out C6 works well w the ford motors with minimal mods, you may run into some issues w AOD, Advanced Adaptors make a lot of jeep parts for engine swaps, only thing I can say for sure is do a lot of research before you commit. On personal note I'd go Ford 100% over GM. Good luck with build and I'll be following for more pics. Looks like you have a lot of rust, how is the frame?
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Old 08-02-2014, 09:28 PM   #12
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Frame has a lot of surface rust from just laying under it. Only hole I see so far is on the passenger rail that holds the leaf spring. I'll know more next weekend when I get the tub off of the frame. Hopefully tomorrow I get some time and can take the fenders off. It's defiantly a project and I bought it for that reason. Needed some relaxation and to work on my own toys instead of always working on someone else's and having a strict deadline.
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Old 08-02-2014, 09:41 PM   #13
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the 5.0 mustangs didn't have electronic controlled transmissions until 94 or 96. the computers interchange between the auto an 5 speed cars. if you go with the aod make sure the tv cable that controls it is set up properly or it will fry the trans FAST. a c4 is a good choice imo since it's smaller, lighter, good aftermarket support you just lose overdrive for highway mileage.
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Old 08-02-2014, 09:56 PM   #14
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Will the c4 stand up if I boost horsepower up to around 400?
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Will the c4 stand up if I boost horsepower up to around 400?

A built C4 will stand 1000 HP, I ran those for years in my mustangs, the issue will be finding Adaptors to fit with transfer case, not sure it will work.
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What's the best automatic trans for these swaps?
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What's the best automatic trans for these swaps?
From info I can gather, C6 seems to be popular choice, with NP205 transfer case.
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Old 08-03-2014, 09:31 AM   #18
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I want to do this once and one time only. I'm thinking about stroking out the motor and heads intake and cam to get around 400hp. I'm trying to redo this jeep so it stays in our family for a long time
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Old 08-05-2014, 06:52 PM   #19
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subscribed, I just finished my swap. but i did the SBC 350 swap. so i wont be much help for the ford swap. I went with the TBI route. and I took the easy route on the swap. bought a wrecked 94 chevy 4X4. Yanked out the engine to the transfercase and brain. bought a wiring harness from Howellefi.com. Cake of a swap. my jeep's name is Punisher
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Old 08-05-2014, 06:53 PM   #20
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now i am working on doing a SOA lift and changing to a ford 8.8 axle in the rear. right now saving money and buying parts when I can...
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Old 08-05-2014, 07:01 PM   #21
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I'm also slowly buying parts. I'm throwing the idea of supercharger or cam heads and intake
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Old 08-10-2014, 09:03 AM   #22
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So this is what I got done this weekend. took me a few hours but I got it. Will be throwing the tub in my trailer today to bring back to my house to start all the metal work. We threw the idea around of buying a donor v8 explorer and I think that's the best route to have every single piece that I will need. Next steps will to have the frame fully finished so when I get the donor car we can set the motor Trans and rear end back on.

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Old 08-10-2014, 08:59 PM   #23
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Found this weekend that 2 front frame rails are rusted and so is the passenger shackle mount. Going to go look at another frame this week to see if I want to go that route or just fix mine. Build is going as planned so far. Now that its stripped down is where the big money is going to start getting spent. Drive train is getting put together now and thats the biggest expense. Hopefully everything keeps going along.

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