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Old 07-26-2013, 04:22 PM   #1
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Papa Smurf Coilover Conversion at Poison Spyder

Some of you are familiar with Papa Smurf, our YJ R&D mule and trail rig. It actually belongs to a good friend of the shop, who bought it from Larry, the owner of Poison Spyder, a while back. But its still one of our flagships so we thought it was due for a little freshening up. I can already hear the leaf spring purists groaning LOL...

Anyhow for those who don't know Papa Smurf, you may have noticed it on the cover of the current issue of 4WDSU:



We've used it quite a bit in our own YJ product development, product photography, etc.



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Old 07-26-2013, 04:31 PM   #2
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I love this yj! I actually have the same front bumper and winch on my yj

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Alright so I'm a newbie....I love my YJ & just have a 2" body lift (was already installed when purchased) on mine but eventually want to take it off & go with all suspension lift. What's the pros/cons of switching to coils vs a SOA or even a non SOA lift?

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SOA and SUA are leaf sprung= little articulation or suspension travel and slightly rough ride

Coils= almost unlimited, atleast you can choose how much drop and raise you want and the ride will be a little softer.
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Any updates?
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Any updates?
I'll post some more photos soon. Maybe this afternoon.
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:54 PM   #7
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Are the Dana 60's stock width or are they wider. If so what's the measurement wms to wms if you know?
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More work on the axle side and frame side link mounts, and steering links...



















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The upper rear link mounts are located on top of the frame rail, right under where the cage B-pillar tube bolts in. During this round of upgrades we're also removing the body lift Papa Smurf had, so this created a problem at this spot. No worries, just cut a hole in the floor to clear for the link mount, then fabricate a raised foot plate for the cage pillar out of 3/16" plate....



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Also while we were at it we fabricated some heavy duty body mount perches, as the stock ones were pretty beat. These may become a production item. We designed them primarily for the TJ, since it will be a bigger market, but they worked on the YJ with a little extra tuning.







And here it is with the suspension links done, sitting on its new set of 40" BFG Krawlers. In this photo its just sitting on stilts where the coilovers should be, as we haven't added the upper coilover mounts/towers yet. We'll get to that soon.

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Are the Dana 60's stock width or are they wider. If so what's the measurement wms to wms if you know?
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They're wider than stock. I don't have a measurement for you. I'll try to get one next time I have a chance.
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those weeks are beautiful...... I've done welding for 11 years and those are great... is this upgrade going to be a kit
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In my expert opinion


I have no idea what I just looked at


Welds look great though
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those weeks are beautiful...... I've done welding for 11 years and those are great... is this upgrade going to be a kit
Thanks for the feedback fellas. nicks_yj, some of these pieces may make it into production. I'm not sure if we're going to do a complete suspension kit--there's just too much that needs to be figured out by the installer, so providing tech support for it and a claim that its a complete kit would be a nightmare. But we may make some of the brackets and tabs available as builder parts for those who might want to DIY it. We haven't shown the upper coilover towers yet, but they will be nearly identical to what we did on our LJ, Daddy Longlegs. I think we have a build thread for that one here on this site somewhere if you want to take a look at it.
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Time to update this thread! More photos from the conversion. Not exactly in order LOL...



















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That is some serious beef built into the steering. Your craftsmanship is top notch...well it better be. You guys are professionals aren't you. The pics are great, but a few details might be nice. How much travel do you have in the coil overs, what did you use for the sway bar?
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Wow I missed this. The YJ looks like a very easy platform for a coilover. So much less junk to deal with. Makes me want one
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Hands down nicest YJ ever. Even those fancy round headlight guys would be jealous lol

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