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Old 12-01-2013, 09:50 PM   #1
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Sucker's 1984 CJ7 Build Thread

Hello Everyone!
Well, I have owned this CJ7 for almost 6 years and 5 of the last 6 years she has been sitting in pieces in the garage. I had the grand idea that I would swap the tub out by myself because the original tub looked like swiss cheese. (If I could do it over again I never should have bought this Jeep - OH WELL!). Once it is finished - Hopefully over the winter or by spring - it will all be worth the wait... I hope.

Here is the pile of rust when I picked up - I was in love. Yes, I got a good deal on it since I could practically drive it Fred Flinstone style because of all the rot in the floor pans

More to come - have a bunch of pics of progress...
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The point of NO RETURN! Started yanking stuff apart... 5 years ago Yeah. That is all I have to say about that. Thankfully things are headed in the right direction finally! So here are a couple pics of the mistake - thinking I had time to take the CJ7 completely apart and rebuild it on my own... It sat in the garage for almost 5 years. Completely stripped down to the frame...
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So 5 years after having it torn apart and having 4 year old twin girls I finally decide I was either going to part it out and sell everything off or I was gonna find someone to rebuild it for me.

As you can already tell - I am a sucker for Jeeps. My first Jeep was a 95 YJ I had in college. I started my business after college and had to sell the Jeep to get a work truck. Ever since I sold the YJ I wanted another Jeep. I finally bought the CJ7 when the wife was pregnant with our twin girls - terrible timing and I have no idea what I was thinking. Twins and free time do not go together! I also work 6 days a week and enjoy spending my other time with the family so rebuilding this thing is beyond my time and capabilities at the moment.

Definitely bit off more than I could chew, but I am bartering with a guy who is gonna get this thing done! Finally! Here are some pics before and after sand blasting.

to be continued tomorrow...
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More pics... Body is primed. Frame was completely pressure washed and sprayed with black paint
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What can I do about this Drive shaft angle?!?!?

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What the CJ has - inline 6 cylinder, 4 speed manual trans, 4" Rough Country suspension lift installed with I believe a 3/4 or 1/2 body lift, large shackles, steering stabalizer

Stuff I ordered today:


Windsheild Frame
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4 35x12.50 Hankook Dynapro Mt's today
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Thanks for posting Sucker. I'm gonna enjoy watching this build.
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Wow!!
Very cool Sucker.
I'm excited for you...not your wallet...OUCH!!
But it will be worth it to you when it's done.
It's going to look badass!!
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Thanks EZ St on MT and Caps71! I'm looking forward to getting this thing back on the road! I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel. It was a great feeling getting the wheels and tires ordered yesterday.

So to get caught up on the build... I'm trying to remember some of the stuff I bought for this thing over the past few years and remembered a few things I needed to add to the list of parts:
Aluminum Valve Cover for the engine
Skyjacker Steering stabalizer
Herculined the inside of the tub

Speaking of the engine... I hope this thing runs! It ran ok before I stripped it down, but it has been 5 years since it was started . I really hope it runs ok because I'm not wanting to do a complete rebuild on the engine or drop a V8 in it right now. Not planning on driving this thing over 55 MPH anyway.

Here is a picture of the tub all painted up in the color blue I am going with:



He has got the body back on the frame and I will hopefully be getting some more pics soon. Can't wait to see it put back together!
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Looking great, SP. You're a brave man to take this on and it will be well worth it!!
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Thanks NorCalRubi!

I've got a couple new pics of the tub on the frame. I think I went overboard on the lift ! Hopefully the 35's will fill in a lot better than those small dry rotted tires!

Maybe I need to remove those big shackles and replace with more of a stock size shackle. Guess I will wait and see what the 35's look like on it. First thing I thought when I saw these pics was Holy crap!

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WOW!!!
The frame sits above the tires..
It's going to look like a Stomper truck..(you know, the toy truck from the 80's that ran on two double A batteries, and we all tore one Stomper truck body apart, so we could use the tabs from it to glue on another body to give it a lift.)

KIDDING!!
It looks awesome...to tell you the truth I'm a 'I'll jealous...not gonna lie.
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WOW!!!
The frame sits above the tires..
It's going to look like a Stomper truck..(you know, the toy truck from the 80's that ran on two double A batteries, and we all tore one Stomper truck body apart, so we could use the tabs from it to glue on another body to give it a lift.)

KIDDING!!
It looks awesome...to tell you the truth I'm a 'I'll jealous...not gonna lie.
Thanks Caps! I'm hoping I didn't overdo the lift. It should look a lot better once the 35's get on. I may have to swap out the large shackles for smaller shackles to reduce the lift height. Also thinking I'm gonna have to order a CV Drive Shaft.
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Hey Sucker...

You know I love your CJ just because you painted it blue, right?

Can't wait to see it finished! I have a lead on an old CJ that's been sitting under a tarp in this lady's barn for YEARS! Mike wants me to try and buy it from her so he has a project for his jeep shop.

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Thanks NorCalRubi!

I've got a couple new pics of the tub on the frame. I think I went overboard on the lift ! Hopefully the 35's will fill in a lot better than those small dry rotted tires!

Maybe I need to remove those big shackles and replace with more of a stock size shackle. Guess I will wait and see what the 35's look like on it. First thing I thought when I saw these pics was Holy crap!

That is an aggressive lift indeed. Are you going to have to replace the fenders since the older style wheel well cut-outs are essentially the stock tire radius? Its going to look awesome, don't doubt it!
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You know I love your CJ just because you painted it blue, right?

Can't wait to see it finished! I have a lead on an old CJ that's been sitting under a tarp in this lady's barn for YEARS! Mike wants me to try and buy it from her so he has a project for his jeep shop.

I have no need to get another Jeep, but those two words - barn and Jeep - get my blood pumping. I bought a 1970 CJ5 last year. It was in a guys barn for 6 or 7 years. I got an awesome deal on it. Finally decided I was a freaking idiot for buying it and flipped it for a few more bucks then I had in it. If I had it to do all over again I would have bought it again. Buying it and loading it on the trailer was half the fun.
Do you know anymore about the CJ? What year or model? Go get it!



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That is an aggressive lift indeed. Are you going to have to replace the fenders since the older style wheel well cut-outs are essentially the stock tire radius? Its going to look awesome, don't doubt it!
Yeah, I was wanting aggressive not monster truck. It will be interesting to see how it looks once the wheels and tires get on it. I am planning on keeping the stock fenders for now. The tires will stick outside of the fenders a little, but don't think it will be super noticeable.
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Nice sucker punch!

A 1984 CJ is on my list of jeeps to acquire.
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Nice sucker punch!

A 1984 CJ is on my list of jeeps to acquire.
Thanks Archer! Gotta love the old "real Jeeps"! Nothing like driving a CJ - leaf springs, no AC, manual locks and doors. Nothing rides better either! You feel every little pebble or slight bump on the road Speaking of the great ride - I think I may order some suspension seats...
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Thinking about ordering these suspension front seats by Corbeau... As you can see in my first post the drivers side seat is busted. Why not replace both seats



These are the Baja JP Seats. Since I am buying the new seats I decided that suspension seats would be my best bet. The reason I have narrowed my search down to these seats is:
1. Price
2. Price
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4. Small bolsters on the sides - I don't want a seat that has big bolsters and makes it even more difficult to climb in and out of the Jeep.

Anybody have any experience with these seats?
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Great build SP! I Cant wait to see the finished product.
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Thanks man! Can't wait to get this project done so I can start modding the JKU Rubi!

Edit: BTW, I love German Shepherds. Had them growing up as a kid. Got pics of yours in the Jeep? I've got Bella, blue pit bull I rescued. She loves riding in the Jeep.
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Thanks man! Can't wait to get this project done so I can start modding the JKU Rubi!

Edit: BTW, I love German Shepherds. Had them growing up as a kid. Got pics of yours in the Jeep? I've got Bella, blue pit bull I rescued. She loves riding in the Jeep.
Not yet I am still trying to recoup orate from the blow from the price of the new JKUR I will not let poor Jonas in it yet LOL
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Great looking PB btw. Here is a Jeepless pic for you for now. Attachment 572578
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Not yet I am still trying to recoup orate from the blow from the price of the new JKUR I will not let poor Jonas in it yet LOL

Haha, I know what you mean! I just throw a large thick beach towel down in the seat. I actually have started tucking the towel in under the headrest and it holds the towel in place and keeps all the dog hair off really well. Bella comes to work with me everyday and the towel works great.
I love German Shepherds but I definitely don't miss all the shedding and long hair. Other than that they are awesome dogs.
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Great looking PB btw. Here is a Jeepless pic for you for now. Attachment 572578
Awe man, that's a great picture!
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Nice Build! I responded to your reply on my build thread.

I think you have the best factory combo than any cj every came with.

Now I hope I don't offend but here are some answers to your questions along with some comments from one cj owner to another.

1.) DS Angle - You can fix this by either rewelding the spring perches on the axle tube or by buying shims and adding/changing in your spring pack. I cant remember what the right angle is for non-cv. I had to do a couple times to get right on mine and I have a cv in the rear. Tom Woods, nothing less is your answer.

2.) I do recommend a good seat. I have more of a full blown racing seat in mine with 5 point harness and you are correct it is harder to get in than because of the bolster (and metal frame in my case). I think a semi bolster would be ideal as you are already planning. But my seats are more than a decade old so I may join you on this.

3.) Lose the shackles. Put your 35" tires on it and have someone turn the wheel and watch them babies walk. I'm not sure if you have a body lift but a 1" body lift is way better than a shackle lift. I recommend shackles with greasable bolts and added strength. I have OME ones on mine. They are high but perform well.

4.) I would recommend a OME YJ lift. You have to do some slight modification but nothing major and oh me is the ride better. I went from a 4" RC to the OME and is like night and day...not to mention the flex. The rough country will ride as the name implied but sounds like you are preparing yourself for that.

5.) 35" tires are big for stock CJ stuff. Your steering was not intended for it. Also if you still retain factory rear axle shafts that needs to make your way on the list. I figure you have stock gearing. You will want to look at a lower gearing in the axles. Now I know you don't have overdrive but don't let people confuse you with the difference between undergeared and underpowered. Your 6 cyl is a fine engine.

I expect some will disagree and its your jeep so do what makes you happy. Any help I can be just let me know. I've been there. Plus I understand what its like to have 2 jeeps in the driveway, expensive.
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Half doors for the CJ!

Gonna go pick these half doors, without the uppers, up this week for $200! They actually look pretty close to the same color of the CJ. I am thinking I will probably plastidip them black at first to see how they look black.





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Nice Build! I responded to your reply on my build thread.

I think you have the best factory combo than any cj every came with.

Now I hope I don't offend but here are some answers to your questions along with some comments from one cj owner to another.

1.) DS Angle - You can fix this by either rewelding the spring perches on the axle tube or by buying shims and adding/changing in your spring pack. I cant remember what the right angle is for non-cv. I had to do a couple times to get right on mine and I have a cv in the rear. Tom Woods, nothing less is your answer.

2.) I do recommend a good seat. I have more of a full blown racing seat in mine with 5 point harness and you are correct it is harder to get in than because of the bolster (and metal frame in my case). I think a semi bolster would be ideal as you are already planning. But my seats are more than a decade old so I may join you on this.

3.) Lose the shackles. Put your 35" tires on it and have someone turn the wheel and watch them babies walk. I'm not sure if you have a body lift but a 1" body lift is way better than a shackle lift. I recommend shackles with greasable bolts and added strength. I have OME ones on mine. They are high but perform well.

4.) I would recommend a OME YJ lift. You have to do some slight modification but nothing major and oh me is the ride better. I went from a 4" RC to the OME and is like night and day...not to mention the flex. The rough country will ride as the name implied but sounds like you are preparing yourself for that.

5.) 35" tires are big for stock CJ stuff. Your steering was not intended for it. Also if you still retain factory rear axle shafts that needs to make your way on the list. I figure you have stock gearing. You will want to look at a lower gearing in the axles. Now I know you don't have overdrive but don't let people confuse you with the difference between undergeared and underpowered. Your 6 cyl is a fine engine.

I expect some will disagree and its your jeep so do what makes you happy. Any help I can be just let me know. I've been there. Plus I understand what its like to have 2 jeeps in the driveway, expensive.
Thanks Dempsey, I looked thru your build and your CJ is sweet. Thanks for all the great info and help. I'm sure I will have plenty of questions, and along the way.

My initial goals are to get this thing back together and roadworthy. Once it is all back together I plan on addressing the engine, gearing, steering, etc, etc. etc.
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Good find on the doors. I wish my cj could accept Yj doors.

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It's red too.
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