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Old 12-29-2011, 09:15 PM   #481
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Hi guys and girls, I have a stock 2010 jk. I think I have read every post on this forum about wheels and tires.. I am ready to pull the trigger on 285/75-16 duratracs and 16x10 pro comp 7189 wheels. I have stock 17 rims and 255/75-17 on jeep now.. Anyone have any advice or insight on this set up. I looked into 15" wheels but not crazy about BS. And also not sure about load rate E on this particular duratracs tire size. But don't want To go smaller .... Thank you guys in advance for your insight p.s no lift on my jeep...

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Hi guys and girls, I have a stock 2010 jk. I think I have read every post on this forum about wheels and tires.. I am ready to pull the trigger on 285/75-16 duratracs and 16x10 pro comp 7189 wheels. I have stock 17 rims and 255/75-17 on jeep now.. Anyone have any advice or insight on this set up. I looked into 15" wheels but not crazy about BS. And also not sure about load rate E on this particular duratracs tire size. But don't want To go smaller .... Thank you guys in advance for your insight p.s no lift on my jeep...
You need less Backspacing to clear the jeep. For a wider tire to fit.
Also if you plan on lifting the jeep-clear the rear sway links.
Does not matter 16 or 15 Backspacing needed is the same.
Some 15" wheels have fitment issues. There are plenty of 15's--mentioned in this thread--that will fit.

E rated tires were terrible on my Tj. The Jk might be better being a heavier vehicle.
16's were harder to find a C tire.

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Thanks. 15 bs is like 3.75 and 16 more like 4.50 .. I am led to believe that 4.50 might more optimal for jk...?
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Thanks. 15 bs is like 3.75 and 16 more like 4.50 .. I am led to believe that 4.50 might more optimal for jk...?
It depends on the wheel not size

4.5 is "recommended" min..

3.75 would be less but ok.
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I am led to believe that 4.50 might more optimal for jk...?
Nah. All BS means is that the lower the number, the further out your tires sit. Stock wheels are around 6.25". You want to be down to at least 5" or more comfortably 4.5" so wider than stock tires won't rub on your air dam, sway bar links, etc. when you turn. 3.75" is fine. Mine are 4".

The biggest concern with more backspacing is that it increases the leverage on your ball joints, but I doubt there's much difference in that regard between 4.5" --> 4" --> 3.75".
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Thanks, i am leaning hard toward the Chaos wheels. I talked to phone rep, he had me concerned about the tire (33x12.50-15 Duratracts) being a little big for the rim. Wanted me to get 10" wheels. He mentioned they will stick out 3 more inches on the vehicle, and says i need sensors in all 5 tires. I almost ordered but decided to call and conform sizing. I realize the tires may stick out a little, but that is a cool look i think. Also mentioned the wear on the tires would be quicker. With all that said, is there a concern? Thanks again this site is awesome.
A 12.50" wide tire may wear a little better on a 10" wide wheel when compared to an 8" wide wheel but a lot of guys prefer the 8" width for off-road conditions. I personally haven't seen much difference in wear between the two set-ups. The 15x8 ET-19 Chaos 5 will stick out past the fender slightly and IMO looks great with 33x12.50-15's. The picture below will show exactly how far this combination will come out.



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Thanks a lot, now you have me waffling and changing my mind. I think I am going to go with the Level 8's now instead of the MB72's. I like how the face of the wheel is more flush to the edge of the rim. The level 8's come with the center cap, correct? Also, will the OEM tire wrench work with those bolts?

BTW, what is the word on the next GY discount for 2012? I'm sure they are having no problem moving duratracs with the interest they are drawing... How about TL? Any rumors or word on extending the discount?
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And while we are at it, what do you mean by "mini lift"?
The Level 8 Tracker does come with center caps for FREE The factory tire wrench can be used as the aftermarket spline drive lug nuts we send out come with a special key that fits right into the wrench. As far as Goodyear promotions go, I have no information regarding there 2012 promotions. As always though, we guarantee the lowest out the door price on all the products we carry so if a competitor ever has a cheaper advertised out the door price, we'll beat it

By mini lift I mean 1.5 inches of lift.
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I have 2010 jk stock with 17 inch rims. W/ 255/75-17. Would I loose any mpg with a 17 in aftermarket aluminum wheel and 32 in duratracs?
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I have 2010 jk stock with 17 inch rims. W/ 255/75-17. Would I loose any mpg with a 17 in aftermarket aluminum wheel and 32 in duratracs?
Say what?

You have what -stock street tires w/ factory 17's now?
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My 2010 sport came with 255/75-17 Goodyear wranglers stock
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I have 2010 jk stock with 17 inch rims. W/ 255/75-17. Would I loose any mpg with a 17 in aftermarket aluminum wheel and 32 in duratracs?
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My 2010 sport came with 255/75-17 Goodyear wranglers stock
Your stock tires are 32's, by definition. A tape measure will reveal that they actually measure 31.5" mounted. The tires being discussed in this thread are 33's by definition, which actually measure 32.5" mounted. The duratracs are a lighter tire than the stock tire, even though they measure larger. I'm not sure if you are looking to put some duratracs on your stock 17" wheels, or if you are inquiring about the vein of this thread, which is the fact that moving to a 15" alloy wheel with Duratracs will yield significant weight savings, as well as significant cost savings, at each corner.

I'm not sure exactly what you where asking, and therefore am unsure if I answered your question. If you are considering keeping the 17's and buying bigger tires for them, I suggest you head back to post #1 in this thread and start from the beginning. Then price out wheel spacers for each corner and lastly compare pricing on DT (or absolutely any tire) for 17" vs 15" rim size pricing.
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I have 2010 jk stock with 17 inch rims. W/ 255/75-17. Would I loose any mpg with a 17 in aftermarket aluminum wheel and 32 in duratracs?
Let me see if I understand.

You're looking to swap stock 17" wheels and stock 32" tires with aftermarket 17" wheels and aftermarket 32" tires. Is that right?

At that point, your mpgs would really only be impacted by weight. More weight equals lower mpgs. You can find most tire weights on tirerack.com. You might need to ask the wheel seller about the weight of your aftermarket wheel choice, but your stock wheel weighs about 29 pounds.

That said, I would not recommend this switch simply because I don't think you'll be happy long term. If you're the type of person who wants different wheels and tires, you're going to be the type of person who wants them in something other than stock sizes.
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Thanks for input, not meaning to ramble or hijack the thread!! Thanks for knowledge
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Without starting ANOTHER new thread about this set up.... I'm currently running these tires at about 32psi. I've noticed a couple miles drop on fuel economy and I'm hovering somewhere around 13 mpg. Would increased friction due to contact with the road? If I upped my pressure a couple pounds, physics tells me I should see less friction and then maybe get back into that 15-16 mpg sweet spot I was looking at before.

P.S. I'm also aware of some added wind resistance due to height and a roof rack which I installed.

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Without starting ANOTHER new thread about this set up.... I'm currently running these tires at about 32psi. I've noticed a couple miles drop on fuel economy and I'm hovering somewhere around 13 mpg. Would increased friction due to contact with the road? If I upped my pressure a couple pounds, physics tells me I should see less friction and then maybe get back into that 15-16 mpg sweet spot I was looking at before.

P.S. I'm also aware of some added wind resistance due to height and a roof rack which I installed.

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Yes, higher PSI will improve your mpgs. However, running too high of a PSI will create uneven tire wear, wandering handling, and poor traction. From a safety and tire wear standpoint, you should try to find the "right" PSI for the tires regardless of mileage. What's the right PSI? There's a few ways to figure it out, including the "chalk test."

That said, I find it hard to believe you're getting 13 mpg on 33x12.5R15 DuraTracs on 15" alloy wheels. Is that really your set up, or do you have another size of DuraTrac? I have a 2010 4 door with 3.21 gears on 33x12.5R15 DuraTracs and 15" alloys and am averaging about 18.5 mpg.
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Yes, higher PSI will improve your mpgs. However, running too high of a PSI will create uneven tire wear, wandering handling, and poor traction. From a safety and tire wear standpoint, you should try to find the "right" PSI for the tires regardless of mileage. What's the right PSI? There's a few ways to figure it out, including the "chalk test."

That said, I find it hard to believe you're getting 13 mpg on 33x12.5R15 DuraTracs on 15" alloy wheels. Is that really your set up, or do you have another size of DuraTrac? I have a 2010 4 door with 3.21 gears on 33x12.5R15 DuraTracs and 15" alloys and am averaging about 18.5 mpg.
I have the exact set up described by ESP at the beginning of this thread (I posted a picture a couple pages back). Mine is a 2011 auto, which I'm assuming has the 3.7* gears, and is unlifted, though I just ordered a leveling kit.

My calculation is done using the onboard computer. It should also be noted that I work about 5-6 miles from my house and it's all local traffic. So, I think that could also contribute to my low numbers.
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Hey, not sure if it's relevant to the low number you might see, but if you warm your JEEP up for 20 minutes like my wife does when it's cold out, your numbers will plummet when just looking at the onboard calculations. I have the same set up and average 18 mpg when driving AFTER I reset it. Just something to think about.
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I swear i read on here the weight of stock wheels/tires but I can't find it.

What's the weight of the stock Sport S 17" wheels/Goodyear sra tires? I have a 2012.

Also, what's the weight of the 15" mb72s and 33x12.5 duratracs?
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I swear i read on here the weight of stock wheels/tires but I can't find it.

What's the weight of the stock Sport S 17" wheels/Goodyear sra tires? I have a 2012.

Also, what's the weight of the 15" mb72s and 33x12.5 duratracs?
33x12.5R15 goodyear duratracs weigh 49 lbs each.
15x8 MB72 alloy wheels weigh about 17 lbs each.
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So 66 pounds each. What about the stockers?
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So 66 pounds each. What about the stockers?
IIRC, stock Rubicon tire is about 48 lbs, stock Rubicon wheel is about 27 lbs. So the stock set up is about 75 lbs.
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Well I don't have the mud terrains, so the goodyears should be lighter. Its probably a wash between these 33's and the stockers for me, which is okay in my book.
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Well I don't have the mud terrains, so the goodyears should be lighter. Its probably a wash between these 33's and the stockers for me, which is okay in my book.
The DuraTrac is also a wildly better tire than the stock AT of course.
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I am really interested in doing this when I get my taxes back.
What do I do with my current rims and tires though?
They are bed lined with Rustoleum Truck Bed Coating and the tires have about 8000
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I am really interested in doing this when I get my taxes back.
What do I do with my current rims and tires though?
They are bed lined with Rustoleum Truck Bed Coating and the tires have about 8000
You may get a few bucks on CL for the tires. The 16 stockers who knows who would be able to use them.

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I am really interested in doing this when I get my taxes back.
What do I do with my current rims and tires though?
They are bed lined with Rustoleum Truck Bed Coating and the tires have about 8000
You list them a few months, and then when they don't sell you try to find a good home for them. I got lucky and sold my stock wheels and rims to someone moving to SC that just needed new tires for the trip.

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Can not wait till spring to get my new wheels and tires, the stock tires are junk. We had some snow last week and damn. Bunk to the monkey.
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I am keeping all my stock parts Lol. I learned the hard way when I dumped a ton of money into my mustang and got rid of the stock parts. I would of made much more money if I reverted back to stock, and sold all my aftermarket parts.

I am definitely ordering these wheels/tires sometime this week!
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Just spoke with a local shop who said you can't put 15's on a jk because the breaks are too big?? Is this guy out of his mind or am I missing something?
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Just spoke with a local shop who said you can't put 15's on a jk because the breaks are too big?? Is this guy out of his mind or am I missing something?
Go back and read the thread

Most/all steal wheels will not I believe.
DTD has a list of alloys that will. Best advice, find one you like and contact them.

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