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Old 06-04-2011, 04:48 PM   #31
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$1315 shipped, mounted balanced, and installed. Take another $100 off for a Tread Lightly discount and Goodyear offers an additional $40 mail in rebate till the end of next month.

Grand total = $1175
My discount tire doesn't know anything about a tread lightly discount. How'd you go about that?

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When I put these on my TJ I had a bit of "road wander" where it would follow the ruts and bumps in the road. Airing down to ~29psi solved that at the recommendation of InfernoGirl. At 29psi I have a good wear pattern too. Just thought I would throw that out there.
Thanks for the recommendation Chaos. I haven't had that problem, everything has been great. I am running them all at 30psi right now and will do so for a bit to see how it does with handling and mpg. I will probably wind up using 28-30 psi for them but time will tell.

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My discount tire doesn't know anything about a tread lightly discount. How'd you go about that?
This is a discount provided by Tread Lightly not Discount Tires. You need to join tread lightly. Its a one time non renewing fee that will give you the $100 off rebate for goodyear tires. You'll be saving essentially $75 for joining. You don't have to care about your membership with them beyond that unless you choose too.

Here is the website. Tread Lightly - Home
Here is the other rebate. Goodyear/Dunlop Get Up to an $80 Rebate
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This is a discount provided by Tread Lightly not Discount Tires. You need to join tread lightly. Its a one time non renewing fee that will give you the $100 off rebate for goodyear tires. You'll be saving essentially $75 for joining. You don't have to care about your membership with them beyond that unless you choose too.

Here is the website. Tread Lightly - Home
Here is the other rebate. Goodyear/Dunlop Get Up to an $80 Rebate
Thanks for the info!
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I have sold almost every set I've had on craigslist locally including the ones before these. I've had very good luck on there.

I forgot to mention that the max PSI for these tires is 35. Discount Tires shipped them to me maxed out at 35 so the first time I checked them a few hours after driving on them they heated up to 40psi . I had to air them down. Currently running at 30psi cold. Much better now.
Really? Thats great, thats definitely going to be what i do then!

Haha wow, i could see that happening though...people get confused by the max psi/recommended psi/reg psi thing. They sound like they are very smooth running tires.
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Really? Thats great, thats definitely going to be what i do then!

Haha wow, i could see that happening though...people get confused by the max psi/recommended psi/reg psi thing. They sound like they are very smooth running tires.
Yeah man, those mountain wheels should go pretty quick too. Make sure you mention that, aside from the mountain, they're the same wheels as the Call of Duty and Mojave editions.
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No. If they stick out too far for you, you need to look into other wheels with a different backspacing. I believe the 17" version of the MB72s has a greater backspace, 4.5" or so.
If I can find some 15X8 wheels with 5 or 5.5" BS do you think they'd fit ok, not rub and pull tread under the fender? I haven't found any with that much BS but I keep looking.
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Looks good I think I'm going with the 305/65-16 duratracs.
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Looks awesome, Jude! Now lets go get em dirty!!!!
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When I put these on my TJ I had a bit of "road wander" where it would follow the ruts and bumps in the road. Airing down to ~29psi solved that at the recommendation of InfernoGirl. At 29psi I have a good wear pattern too. Just thought I would throw that out there.
Thanks for the recommendation Chaos. I haven't had that problem, everything has been great. I am running them all at 30psi right now and will do so for a bit to see how it does with handling and mpg. I will probably wind up using 28-30 psi for them but time will tell.
I'll second this. Like Linda, I run mine at 28 psi cold on the road and 15psi on the trail.
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I'll second this. Like Linda, I run mine at 28 psi cold on the road and 15psi on the trail.
Do you have yours on a JK?
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would they have fit without the lift you put on the jeep? im looking to put 26 inch rims with 305/30/26 tires on my 2010 wrangler unlimited but dont want to lift it.
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would they have fit without the lift you put on the jeep? im looking to put 26 inch rims with 305/30/26 tires on my 2010 wrangler unlimited but dont want to lift it.
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would they have fit without the lift you put on the jeep? im looking to put 26 inch rims with 305/30/26 tires on my 2010 wrangler unlimited but dont want to lift it.
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would they have fit without the lift you put on the jeep? im looking to put 26 inch rims with 305/30/26 tires on my 2010 wrangler unlimited but dont want to lift it.
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Do you have yours on a JK?
Nope. They're on a TJ, on 15x8 wheels, like you.
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Nope. They're on a TJ, on 15x8 wheels, like you.
I may be misunderstanding you but mine are on a JK not a TJ. There is a weight difference factored in here. 30psi is doing very well on my Jeep with these tires but I may go down to 28 to see if I like it better. The tires heat up to 33 when I'm driving but never higher and its very comfortable.
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Do you know what the width equivalent of these tires is (i.e. 285, 305)? I found someone selling the same size Wrangler MTrs with Mickey Thompson Classic II's for $1495, 20% used. I'm trying to figure out how much they'll stick out, and if I care, and if it's a good deal. I'm running a 2011 Sahara Unlimited, no lift.
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I may be misunderstanding you but mine are on a JK not a TJ. There is a weight difference factored in here. 30psi is doing very well on my Jeep with these tires but I may go down to 28 to see if I like it better. The tires heat up to 33 when I'm driving but never higher and its very comfortable.
Sorry, Jude. This is what I meant: No, I have a TJ, but like you, my tires are mounted on 15x8 wheels, as are yours. Sorry for the confusion. I assumed your JK is probably a little heavier than my TJ, but I was just throwing it out there that I run 28.
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Do you know what the width equivalent of these tires is (i.e. 285, 305)? I found someone selling the same size Wrangler MTrs with Mickey Thompson Classic II's for $1495, 20% used. I'm trying to figure out how much they'll stick out, and if I care, and if it's a good deal. I'm running a 2011 Sahara Unlimited, no lift.
I'm not exactly sure the equivalent in the other size. I don't have any experience with the MT classics either but I'm sure others on this forum do. Ask around and see what you can find out.
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Sorry, Jude. This is what I meant: No, I have a TJ, but like you, my tires are mounted on 15x8 wheels, as are yours. Sorry for the confusion. I assumed your JK is probably a little heavier than my TJ, but I was just throwing it out there that I run 28.
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Gotcha.
I've been running 30psi for the better half of two fill ups and I'm getting 17.9 mpg in city. Before I lowered it and when I was running all at 33psi (too high because it went over 35 "max rating" once they heated up) I got over 18+ mpg. Being safe is definitely more important however and having my tires make the best contact with the road/trail is far better at the lower psi. Can't wait to air them down as all of the off the stuff I've driven over since getting them has been really comfortable. Very smooth and super easy with little bounce. I like the 15" wheels and tires very much.
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Looked up some numbers today and realized it would actually cost MORE (or almost exactly the same, depending on rebates and whatnot) to get 5 new 285/70/17 Duratracs for my current wheels than it would to for me to entirely replicate your set up--new wheels and all. And that doesn't even consider the set off of selling my current wheels, tires, and spacers.

Hmm . . . . It's like I'm saving money . . .
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Looked up some numbers today and realized it would actually cost MORE (or almost exactly the same, depending on rebates and whatnot) to get 5 new 285/70/17 Duratracs for my current wheels than it would to for me to entirely replicate your set up--new wheels and all. And that doesn't even consider the set off of selling my current wheels, tires, and spacers.

Hmm . . . . It's like I'm saving money . . .
Sold all 5 of my 32" Nitto Grapplers with wheels for $1300. Purchased 5 new 33" Duratracs (ahh yea) and wheels for $1315. Discount gave me another $75 off from that because they shipped one day late.
Tread Lightly rebate is giving me another $100 for the Goodyears and Goodyear themselves is giving me another $40 for buying their tires! Grand total for everything installed $1100. I made $200 which went right into savings. I'm not helping right?

Oh, did I mention how much better my MPG is now too?
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Sold all 5 of my 32" Nitto Grapplers with wheels for $1300.
How much do you think i could get for my Mountain wheels/tires?
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How many miles on the tires? Condition of wheels?
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How much do you think i could get for my Mountain wheels/tires?
Use eBay and Craigslist to get an idea for ballpark pricing. I didn't see any used Mountain/COD/Mojave wheel and tire sets on there last I looked, but there are always plenty of Rubicon ones.

Your wheels are Rubicon wheels plus grey paint, so the Rubis should give you an idea. Mopar (through Q-tec at least) seems to believe the going rate for grey paint is around an extra $110 per wheel, so I'd ask a little more than the going eBay/Craigslist rate for plain Rubi wheels/tires.
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Jude: Do you know whether the MB72's are hub centric to the Jeep's hubs? I rather doubt it . . . I'm not sure if any aftermarket wheels are (other than AEV, I believe). Presuming the MB72s are not, did you happen to get hub centering rings too? Might want to confirm that if you're in doubt--you don't want the lugs holding all the weight.
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Jude: Do you know whether the MB72's are hub centric to the Jeep's hubs? I rather doubt it . . . I'm not sure if any aftermarket wheels are (other than AEV, I believe). Presuming the MB72s are not, did you happen to get hub centering rings too? Might want to confirm that if you're in doubt--you don't want the lugs holding all the weight.
Don't know the answer to that. I've emailed DTD about it and will follow up here with their response once I hear back.
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Pulled these from a few other Jeep forums regarding aftermarket wheels and whether it matters if they are hub or lug centric. Still waiting for an answer from DTD but I imagine it will be inline with this too.

On non hub centric wheels the lug nuts pull the wheel into contact with the wheel hub and also provide support to the wheel in the vertical plane.

The hub rings will make the installation of your lug centric wheels easier, but serve no purpose after you install your wheels.

If you're installing the wheels yourself, get the rings. If you're having a shop do the work, skip the rings.


Hub centricity benefits really have little to do with installation benefits which are modest, at best.

*EVERY* (undoubtedly there may be an exception or two out there) OEM wheel application in at least the last 10 years is hub-centric.

Hub centricity really has two major benefits. First, hub centricity is a substantial benefit in insuring that the wheel is centered on the hub. There are numerous examples of non-hub-centric wheels that will not balance correctly. Hub centric adapter rings try to solve this anomoly and in most cases do.

The second benefit of hub-centric rims is that vertical shear forces acting on the tire/tim are transfered to the hub through presumably the strongest part of the rim. These same vertical shear forces are all on the lugs on nun-hub-centric rims. Conceptually this attribute is more important with vehicles that are used off-road since it is more likely that these type of shear forces will be encountered - or even planned

Given the opportunity, I would always recommend a hub-centric wheel over one that is not. You will mitigate the occurance of balancing problems and you will have a stronger "assembly" at each corner of your vehicle.

FYI - The ONLY reason that the aftermarket doesn't routinely make hub-centric rims is that the OEMs all have different hub sizes. Wheel manufacturers will generally make the center bore at or greater than the largest OEM hub diameter enabling the wheel to fid the widest variety of vehicles.
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