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Old 01-17-2012, 08:51 PM   #571
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Can I have the stock TPMS sensors put into the Level 8 Trackers in 15x8?
Or should I just ditch them?

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I had them transfer my stock TPMS to my 16" Level8 Trackers. No problems whatsoever.

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I had them transfer my stock TPMS to my 16" Level8 Trackers. No problems whatsoever.
How much did they charge for this service?

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Old 01-18-2012, 10:10 AM   #573
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How much did they charge for this service?
They charged me $80.00. This included

1. Removing the TPMS from OEM tires
2. Installing TPMS on my new tire/wheel combo that I got from DTD
3. Re-balancing and mounting my new tires ( all 5 tires)

Note: They didn't re-balance my OEM tires.

Also this was done at the dealership. May be a tire place could do it for less.
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Old 01-18-2012, 03:08 PM   #574
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Just put them on! I aired them down to 35 psi. They are a little loud. What do you guys run in yours? 32 psi?
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Old 01-18-2012, 03:14 PM   #575
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Just put them on! I aired them down to 35 psi. They are a little loud. What do you guys run in yours? 32 psi?
Looks good! I would say between 29 and 32 would be about right. But I would highly recommend a chalk test to get them set the best.
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Old 01-18-2012, 04:17 PM   #576
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28-30 max cold psi for those.
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Just put them on! I aired them down to 35 psi. They are a little loud. What do you guys run in yours? 32 psi?
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:08 PM   #578
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28-30 max cold psi for those.
did you need the Daystar Tailgate Bump Stops on your spare with the 15" wheels...?

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did you need the Daystar Tailgate Bump Stops on your spare with the 15" wheels...?

I don't have them but some do who run the same set up.
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I don't have them but some do who run the same set up.
any issues with not using them?
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:50 PM   #581
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I haven't had any and I've wheeled with my spare and the stock bump stops. The rear tire has not come into contact with them but it is also not sitting against them. MTH on here I think got the extensions and he may have a pic of his stock ones kinda bent. PM him and see.
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any issues with not using them?
More so if you have a heavier wheel/tire. I ran an aftermarket wheel with less BS for years with stock tires on my Tj.
Soon after I put a load E MTR On the back -it reeked havoc on my hinges/gate.
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:21 PM   #583
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I'm waiting on my DayStars (they've been back ordered for awhile). So right now, the Black Rocks sit the tire an inch or more from the stock bumpstops. Feels rock solid though and isn't showing any signs of sag. Since it's sitting further out, I think it helps that my tire/wheel is about 7 lbs lighter than stock.
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I thought I saw a picture of one of your stops and it looked bent?
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I thought I saw a picture of one of your stops and it looked bent?
Yep, that's from the stock tires, which sat so close they crunched it up.
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Yep, that's from the stock tires, which sat so close they crunched it up.
Those evil stockers! Aren't you glad you got rid of those.
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I'm waiting on my DayStars (they've been back ordered for awhile). So right now, the Black Rocks sit the tire an inch or more from the stock bumpstops. Feels rock solid though and isn't showing any signs of sag. Since it's sitting further out, I think it helps that my tire/wheel is about 7 lbs lighter than stock.
Waiting also on my Daystar bump stops. In the interim, I used some 1.5 inch heater hose to fashion some temporary bump stops to preclude any sort of movement or alleviate stress to the tailgate hinges posed by the tire sitting further out than the stockers.
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Waiting also on my Daystar bump stops. In the interim, I used some 1.5 inch heater hose to fashion some temporary bump stops to preclude any sort of movement or alleviate stress to the tailgate hinges posed by the tire sitting further out than the stockers.
X2^ LOL, I was just going to say the same thing. Heater hose is working for me too.

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Old 01-21-2012, 08:20 AM   #589
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X2^ LOL, I was just going to say the same thing. Heater hose is working for me too.

Nice setup ESP. Good lookin Rig.

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I bought the tail gate bump stops but i don't think they are necessary. Theres more than enough support from the 3 lugs holding the tire on.
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I bought the tail gate bump stops but i don't think they are necessary. Theres more than enough support from the 3 lugs holding the tire on.
I really do not think its that necessary with this combo.
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Old 01-21-2012, 02:12 PM   #592
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If I do this set up I just need to bolt it on and I'll be all set right? What about turning and rubbing?
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I have a leveling kit and I rub at full turn. Lolz.
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I have a leveling kit and I rub at full turn. Lolz.
Which kit? Day star or 1.5 TF?
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I'm liking my Duratracs so far.
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My Jeep has been COMBOED - 33" DTs on black 15" MB72s. Got the new kit on Thursday and threw them on Friday night in the dark. Being an engineer, I wanted to document a few things to share and a couple of quick hits. Since so many people have asked "WILL IT FIT WITH NO LIFT", here is your definitive answer

As stated before, YES THEY FIT WITH NO LIFT. My Jeep is a stock JKU Sport with no lift of any sort on it. And here's why:

Before I took the old ones off, 17" Moabs with junk SRAs, I took some measurements on key points

Top of front fender to ground: 36"
Top of rear fender to ground: 37"
Frame to ground: 14"
Front of front tire to bumper: 3.75"
Rear of front tire to fender: 5.0"
Front of rear tire to fender: 5.5"
Rear of rear tire to fender:4.0"
Front of rear tire to that pinch seam: 2.25"

Here was my starting point.


1) Since so many people have said that this set up may be lighter than your stock wheels, I weighed one of my stock tires on my bathroom scale and they came up at 62lbs. When I weighed the new wheel, it came in at 67lbs (UPS shipping weight was 71lbs). While not lighter than the JK-S wheel kit, it could be lighter than a Rubicon type kit or even a Sahara 18" package. YMMV with other stock wheel/tire combos

2) I got out today to take some pictures and some "after" measurements, and Ill be damned if they are only 0.5" larger in diameter than the old ones. All measurements from above are only 0.25" closer to all points, so the diameter measurement changes are pretty much negligible. Obviously, the same can be said for the circumference, and therefore your spedo. I took some GPS speed readings before and after and the difference was nothing to note, likely within the accuracy threshold of the spedo. I took readings at 25, 30, and 45 mph and the speed was pretty much dead on.

3) There are a few pictures in this thread of the width sticking out a good 2" from the fender. I was driving around yesterday in the snow and the side of the Jeep was COVERED in that brown, slushy goop snow from the roads. The handles, front of the rear fender, mirrors, hinges, the lot. No drama in the snow what so ever. Since this was my #1 priority with the new purchase, this made me very

4) I reset my MPG readout to try and get some good readings on the highway (it has been pretty accurate to my hand calculations), but since it was real slushy and snowy out, Im only going to report the MPG changes after a few more tanks. With that said, I still did get around 19mpg highway, over a good 30mi. This was going between 40-50ish with some passes of the REAL slow pokes, so not my normal highway driving

5) The tire noise is louder than before, but not mudderishly loud. Ive never been in a Rubicon with those MTRs, but they are no louder than some BFG KOs I had on an old ZJ. Still livable and no big deal

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Awesome ^^

Yes, I think they are compared to the Rubi 32/17 combo not sport SR-A's.

Being able to go up a size and lighter makes it a popular choice
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What do I do with the stock tires and rims?
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