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Old 06-10-2011, 03:26 PM   #61
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The second benefit of hub-centric rims is that vertical shear forces acting on the tire/tim are transfered to the hub through presumably the strongest part of the rim. These same vertical shear forces are all on the lugs on nun-hub-centric rims. Conceptually this attribute is more important with vehicles that are used off-road since it is more likely that these type of shear forces will be encountered - or even planned

Given the opportunity, I would always recommend a hub-centric wheel over one that is not. You will mitigate the occurance of balancing problems and you will have a stronger "assembly" at each corner of your vehicle.

FYI - The ONLY reason that the aftermarket doesn't routinely make hub-centric rims is that the OEMs all have different hub sizes. Wheel manufacturers will generally make the center bore at or greater than the largest OEM hub diameter enabling the wheel to fid the widest variety of vehicles.[/I]
That right there was the beginning and nearly the end of my understanding of the topic--with the lone addition being that I was also under the impression that the rings functioned as an "adapter" of sorts to make a lug centric wheel into a hub centric wheel. The rest of the quote you provided suggests this isn't the case ("The hub rings will make the installation of your lug centric wheels easier, but serve no purpose after you install your wheels."), though I don't have the technical understanding as to why. It'll be interesting to see what DTD says.

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Looked up some numbers today and realized it would actually cost MORE (or almost exactly the same, depending on rebates and whatnot) to get 5 new 285/70/17 Duratracs for my current wheels than it would to for me to entirely replicate your set up--new wheels and all. And that doesn't even consider the set off of selling my current wheels, tires, and spacers.

Hmm . . . . It's like I'm saving money . . .
Tell me about it!! I got a quote on this wheel/tire setup way back in October! I didn't even get the Jeep until this February. Lol. Still haven't pulled the trigger, but plan to before too much longer hopefully.

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Looks great. That is the exact setup I am planning to go with once I add a Teraflex Leveling Kit. Which DT did the install? That tech looks very familiar.
It was in Cary at Saint Charles Place.
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How are these tires in the snow?
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How are these tires in the snow?
I haven't had them long enough to test them out but I have heard they're great.
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I haven't had them long enough to test them out but I have heard they're great.
Thanks for the response
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Jude: Do you know whether the MB72's are hub centric to the Jeep's hubs? I rather doubt it . . . I'm not sure if any aftermarket wheels are (other than AEV, I believe). Presuming the MB72s are not, did you happen to get hub centering rings too? Might want to confirm that if you're in doubt--you don't want the lugs holding all the weight.
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That right there was the beginning and nearly the end of my understanding of the topic--with the lone addition being that I was also under the impression that the rings functioned as an "adapter" of sorts to make a lug centric wheel into a hub centric wheel. The rest of the quote you provided suggests this isn't the case ("The hub rings will make the installation of your lug centric wheels easier, but serve no purpose after you install your wheels."), though I don't have the technical understanding as to why. It'll be interesting to see what DTD says.
Sorry for the delay everyone.


The information we put together in this thread should help.

The Skinny on Hub Centric Rings - Honda Ridgeline Owners Club Forums

It's important to remember that force friction overcomes the load/shear forces of the vehicle. The studs are simply under tension when torqued. If you think about it, the studs and hub pilot can not bear the weight of the vehicle, at all.

I should also note here that most aftermarket truck/SUV wheels are not hub-centric and for the most part, do not have an applicable ring. Trucks and SUVs typically utilize larger tires/sidewalls which helps absorb any vibrations caused by wheel offcenterness that may have occured during installtion. However, more and more wheel manufacturers are including hub-centric rings with their truck and SUV wheels.

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Old 07-19-2011, 12:41 PM   #68
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For the info DTD.
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wow awesome, did u lift ur wrangler???
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Yes. It has the 3/4 Daystar Comfort Ride Spacer Lift.
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If you have questions about 15" wheels and or tire combos for your JK, just PM me.
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tire/wheel question

I have been following the 33/12.5/15 discussion thread for months. I'd really like to get some GY duratracs and wheels but I want, as much as possible, to keep the tire under the stock fender/flare. This means I need more back spacing than most stock wheels offer, but I don't know how much can be tolerated without causing other troubles. I have a 08 wrangler, 2 dr, with an AEV 3.5" lift kit, bilstein shocks, etc. The stock 17's with GYMT's 255/75/17 fit fine, with no problems and have lots of Back Spacing so the tire is clearly under the fender.

The 15" wheels all come with 4.5" BS max, most have 3.5" BS and will cause the tire to extend about 2" outside the fender. I'm hoping to find a 15" wheel/tire combo, 33" Outside Diameter, that will fit. A 34" tire would be find too. I'm not that concerned about the 12.5. 11.5 would be ok, even 10.5... whatever. I just don't want the tire to stick out past the fender.

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The MBs have been nothing but great since I got them. I would recommend them easily. Looks and function.
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I am a sissy. I just need to make the dammed phone call! Damn it! I'm too far from a DT so I'd have to pay a shop to do it. This is still cheaper than me putting on 33s on the stock 18s on my JKU . Can someone force me to do it ?
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I am a sissy. I just need to make the dammed phone call! Damn it! I'm too far from a DT so I'd have to pay a shop to do it. This is still cheaper than me putting on 33s on the stock 18s on my JKU . Can someone force me to do it ?
Let me make it even easier . Order your 5x tires and wheels from DTD and you'll get $50 off instantly for being a member here and if you join Tread Lightly, you'll get another $100 off your purchase.
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Damn you. Going there now to join....wtf....it's like a Jedi mind trick!
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Let me make it even easier . Order your 5x tires and wheels from DTD and you'll get $50 off instantly for being a member here and if you join Tread Lightly, you'll get another $100 off your purchase.
Lol....you have been my inspiration in the decision!! Gettin mine in november. Along with the teraflex 2.5 bb (thanks to clutch)!
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lol....you have been my inspiration in the decision!! Gettin mine in november. Along with the teraflex 2.5 bb (thanks to clutch)!
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Digging up a great thread, sorry. OK, I am going to order today or tomorrow. Just another few final questions:

Will they be ready to bolt on by me or do I need to do something else, like those rings or sensors?

Will my standard hilift jack or Mopar Jack and lug wrench allow me to do this? I have to assume this is just like swapping out a spare tire.

Do I need to get the new tires balanced after I put them on?

Can I request that the white lettering be on the INSIDE, god I hate white lettering.

Will this reduce the weight of my existing Jeep going from stock 18 inch wheels to these?

Should I get the Lift Kit put on FIRST or can I get these bolted on and be able to drive to the shop to get my kit on? I am not confident I can do the levelling kit nor do I have the proper tools to do such.

Should I do the stubby bumper conversion before putting these on?

Will I need to trim anything after they are on?

Ok, that's it.

Wait, one more. Are these the widest DTs I can put on with the stock fenders? I want to make sure I call and order the right thing!
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Digging up a great thread, sorry. OK, I am going to order today or tomorrow. Just another few final questions:

Will they be ready to bolt on by me or do I need to do something else, like those rings or sensors?

Will my standard hilift jack or Mopar Jack and lug wrench allow me to do this? I have to assume this is just like swapping out a spare tire.

Do I need to get the new tires balanced after I put them on?

Can I request that the white lettering be on the INSIDE, god I hate white lettering.

Will this reduce the weight of my existing Jeep going from stock 18 inch wheels to these?

Should I get the Lift Kit put on FIRST or can I get these bolted on and be able to drive to the shop to get my kit on? I am not confident I can do the levelling kit nor do I have the proper tools to do such.

Should I do the stubby bumper conversion before putting these on?

Will I need to trim anything after they are on?

Ok, that's it.

Wait, one more. Are these the widest DTs I can put on with the stock fenders? I want to make sure I call and order the right thing!
If you order the tires mounted on the wheels then they will be balanced and ready to go upon arrival.

Yes, a standard jack and some elbow grease and you'll be good to go.

No, you do not need the tires balanced after putting them on. They will have been balanced when they were mounted onto the wheels prior to shipping.

Yes, you can tell them you want black letters out and white inside. You must do this when ordering. It's what I did.

The weight may be reduced but I do not remember the stock weight of the Sahara tires/wheels.

You can put the them on without a lift. You don't need to go to a shop to install your leveling kit. YOU CAN DO IT with the help of a friend and zero experience. Max job 3-4 hours (if you're not talking jeeps during install)

You can do the stubby conversion any time. Takes about 30 minutes maybe less.

12.5 tires are pretty wide. You're going to notice quite a difference going to them from your stockers. I wouldn't go any wider, there is no need. They will sit perfectly even with your flares with half the tire outside the flare and half inside.
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I am not sure I can do that Levelling kit, I read the instructions many times, I don't have a safe way to do it. I have to pay there.
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I just joined Tread Lightly, too. So I may hold off (and give me more time to make more decisions...) until I get the certificate for the additonal money off. How long does that usually take?
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I just joined Tread Lightly, too. So I may hold off (and give me more time to make more decisions...) until I get the certificate for the additonal money off. How long does that usually take?
You don't have to wait for the welcome package they send out to get your number. Just email them and ask for it.
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oh really? Well, back to being fast tracked! Considering I've been internalizin this since July 6th, the day I joined, what's another hour or so. LOL My wife even asked me when am I going to order the damned tires.
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