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Old 04-10-2009, 01:59 PM   #31
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My search function will only search in a circle around MY dealership- try to get a local dealership to do it- they can and will if you ask nicely
EPP SHOULD go away. For one, it's killing my income! For two, Chrysler told us it was ending at the end of March, which was fine by us, and then really did blindside us by extending it- they had even sent out a memo in March telling us to emphasize that it was ending at the end of the month- maybe they were just playing us? But I doubt it.

EPP moves units, but it kills dealership profit. It's good for Chrysler/Cerberus, but not as good for the individual dealerships and salespeople. While I like that it generates some sales we might not otherwise get, I don't like that it brings in mostly lowballers and 500-credit score types who try to get MORE off when we're already damn near invoice on EVERYTHING. Sniff- that's my bit on that Mark W.
What dealership do you work for? Upstate NY here too!

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Old 04-10-2009, 03:33 PM   #32
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Yep, thanks for the great info. I am still debating the whole X vs. Sahara vs. Rubi --- LOL
Hopefully I will figure it out soon. Your Sahara JK looks fabulous..... Thanks for sharing all of this info.

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Old 04-11-2009, 07:30 AM   #33
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Hey- I've been away for a few days (working on my Subaru- stupid evil car!). In terms of 0% giving us less wiggle room, that's probably not true. The salesman can play with your payment if you finance, so you SHOULD get a better deal with cash simply because we can't hide any $$ in your payment- even at 0%, look at what the TOTAL financed would be- it likely was more than the cost of the car with TTL... yeah, he was trying to screw you

Andy, one thing to consider- the plastic vs. painted fenders- if you're going to be brush-hogging your JK, plastic is the way to go. On the downside, the plastic NEVER gets properly clean! If you want your rig to clean up nice for the in-laws or wifey, go Sahara and get painted.

If you can get 0% at 36 months, go for it- that way, your salesman is happy because he actually makes a buck, the bank makes a buck, and you still get a sweet deal. A cash deal only benefits you. No disrespect, but it sounds like you have the bank for it, so you might as well help the economy a little bit, and help your local starving sales people! Despite what some people seem to think, we're not ALL evil (some certainly are), and we NEED to make money A. for the BUSINESS (it IS a business, we can't give cars away), and B. to eat! Even at a dealership like mine where we get a base weekly pay, it's usually less than $300 a week- NOT MUCH So please, feed your local salespeople, folks

Dirtdog, I'm at Hyde Park Motors in Dutchess County- not THAT upstate, but north of the City Mark W.
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Old 04-11-2009, 01:29 PM   #34
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Well, I am not planning on paying cash for the whole thing.....not sure where you got that impression... --- I am trading in & cash down for more than half. I figure I will end up with about $14k financed. I am not sure what you mean that the salesman will make $ on 0% --- I will probably do longer than that just for kicks....Supporting the local business, not buying used and keeping the money in the local economy is my main drive. I was a little upset about not qualifying for military discount as I was told I must have 20+ years or still be active.....that seems a tad bit restrictive....but that is OK.

Definitely like the black wheel fenders..........I was just thinking about adding some Purejeep bumpers --- didn't really like the front bumper ---- looks a tad cheap and economical -----

Thanks so much for the great info, Mark.
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Old 04-11-2009, 07:03 PM   #35
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Sorry amigo, didn't mean to assume- I simply meant it seems you're financially secure in your ability to get into the car :-p

Yeah, the front bumper, especially without fog lights like ours (grumble grumble) is kinda meh. Just remember if you're adding a heavy bumper and winch you may need to do a leveler kit. Unless you're planning to lift it anyway, then do HD springs, and you're golden Mark W.
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Old 04-16-2009, 08:39 PM   #36
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My search function will only search in a circle around MY dealership- try to get a local dealership to do it- they can and will if you ask nicely
EPP SHOULD go away. For one, it's killing my income! For two, Chrysler told us it was ending at the end of March, which was fine by us, and then really did blindside us by extending it- they had even sent out a memo in March telling us to emphasize that it was ending at the end of the month- maybe they were just playing us? But I doubt it.

EPP moves units, but it kills dealership profit. It's good for Chrysler/Cerberus, but not as good for the individual dealerships and salespeople. While I like that it generates some sales we might not otherwise get, I don't like that it brings in mostly lowballers and 500-credit score types who try to get MORE off when we're already damn near invoice on EVERYTHING. Sniff- that's my bit on that Mark W.
Mark-

What dealership do you work at. Upstate NY here too. East of Saratoga. Thinking of getting a Jeep in the next 6 - 12 months and you sound like a decent guy. Let me know.

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Old 04-16-2009, 08:40 PM   #37
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Sorry, just saw your response to my previous inquiry. Thanks for the info. I'll pick your brain when I get closer to buying.

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Old 04-17-2009, 07:32 AM   #38
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Sure, Dan. Come on down Also, if you can swing it, EPP is going away for good after this month, so I'd buy now if you're able. If not, no biggie, but the deals won't be this good again. I hate to sound like a salesman- I'm not! I let people buy cars. I'd rather be in the back turning wrenches Anyway, let me know- Mark W.
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Old 04-24-2009, 11:29 AM   #39
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Blue TJ

I had an awsome blue TJ and I put stainless mirrors,and hindges,now I have a YJ buggy.I like it much better than my PRETTY TJ,but at least I don't worry about scratches,and no payments
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^ We're all very proud of you. What does that have to do with Andy's purchase? Mark W.
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can you get a navi system on a x model?
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Old 04-25-2009, 10:38 AM   #42
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You can add one, but it's expensive. This setup is for an '09 Patriot, but is pretty close to what it'd cost you. This is straight from the parts counter, no discounts:
Radio: 5064401AJ $2,225
To add uConnect: 82211743 (Adapter, radio)- $41, 82211666 (wiring adapter)- $108
To add iPod interface: 82211853- $87.15

You can also order the deck (RER) through Mopar Accessories online, but the price isn't much different, and I'm not sure what all is included. Check with your local parts guy.

Plan B would be look for a take-off- they're around every now and then, and the install isn't that hard. Figuring out all the features takes way longer Mark W.
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Old 04-28-2009, 04:53 PM   #43
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Mark, new member here. i have been lurking. DO you think if they get rid of EPP they will offer a better rebate than $1000, adn longer 0% terms. I am really on the fence. If I sell my V rod, by thursday, it would be an easy descision to just grab the deal. BUt If not I kind of need to wait. BUt i hate to end up spending a lot more down the road if I do wait.
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I am on the fence as well. I have a lease I would be turning in early if I do it by May 2(That is the true end to EPP according to my dealership.) I have to pay out the lease to do the deal. So I had to look at the discount between the EPP and what they sell for without EPP. I was told it is almost $2000 difference between Invoice and EPP, which makes up for my lease buy out...plus leaves some extra.
The sales guy here stated since Jeeps are a year round seller the rebates usually do not get too high, and will not get high enough to cover the difference getting to EPP.
I go tomorrow morning to work with the dealership and they stated they will show me all the paperwork on the vehicle pricing. The vehicle we have picked out is actually a state over so we have to have a day or two for them to go get it as well.
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FWIW, we just got an 09 Sahara on Saturday, with almost all the bells and whistles.
We were going to get one in Silver but the salesman stepped out of the office
and we saw the same Sahara sitting in front of the dealership.
We told the salesman, to switch the order to the one in front.
Its what they call Sunburst Orange and has the navigation system.
The system works great.
Havent had it offroad yet but we re happy with it.
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I just got a 2014 unlimited with open diff. I wondering how much will be to add e-locker.

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