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Old 06-29-2010, 12:09 PM   #1
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Hi all. I've recently been in need of a vehicle to get to places such as school and work and one to have for fun on the weekends. I love doing anything outdoors such as camping and hiking and because of such I've decided that a Jeep Wrangler is what I want to drive. Not to mention the amount of custom parts and modifications you can make to those beasts! I also love the fact that you can take the top off on days like today. (it's about 90 here, sunny, barely any clouds in the sky, and a little bit of breeze) So I know the Jeep Wrangler is for me.
My problem is that I'm not too sure which Wrangler is for me though. I'm looking for around a 2007-2008 model because I love the new body style but don't want to spend a huge sum of money. Now I really love the Rubicon 4x4 but I'm not sure whether or not I should I go ahead and step up to that hauss or start out with a Sport. I'll mainly be driving on the streets as the only time I get to go do fun stuff outdoors is when I'm not working on the weekends.
So can anybody help me out that owns one of these models? I'm really looking forward to the day I can take of the top and just cruise with the sun beating down and the breeze rolling through. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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Exactly what are you asking? If you ask if you should buy the Rubicon, just about everyone will say yes. It will be easier to help you if you have specific questions.

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Exactly what are you asking? If you ask if you should buy the Rubicon, just about everyone will say yes. It will be easier to help you if you have specific questions.
I'm asking if I should buy the Rubicon or the Sport. Because it will mainly be driven on-road I'm not sure if the Rubicon would be best suited for that.
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The Rubicon is no different than the Sport on the road. It has some features that give it advantages off the road.
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Definately weight your options Sykes, I was in the same boat as you in January when I started looking for the jeep I wanted. I had a list of things I wanted on it. After looking around at the ones that fit the bill, I was damn near going to end up spending 19K. These things really hold their value, I went and bought a new one...
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The Rubi will cost probably $4/5K ++ more than the sport

It has all the off-road options that the average off-roader needs

It rides stiffer and handles curves/bumps better, cause of springs/shocks and the resale value is 10/20% greater than any of the other models

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jeeps have a better resale value than almost any other car generally. if you get the rubi you will be able to sell it alot faster than you would a sport IMO. i just went to a jeep dealership by my house yesterday and they havent had a rubi sit on the lot for more than 6hours, plus if you ever do go off roading you will love the rubi more i know i do
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We bought a 2010 Rubicon on sunday and could not be happier with our choice. The ride is very smooth on the street...cant wait to take her off road next weekend.

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I agree with space-ghost. Jeeps in general hold their value and searching for a good used one can be a real dilemma. Bargains are few and far between. The Rubicon, because of all of the extras provided right from the factory are a cherished commodity. Owners of this model are keenly aware of this and the asking price usually reflects this knowledge. So finding a used Rubicon will be especially difficult especially at a bargain basement price.

Now getting to the meat of your post, if the jeep is for mostly on road driving AND you can't afford purchasing a "toy" just for occasional off road use then the sport is a good alternative. If you are not a gear head and you can't do your own work, it is not likely that you will build this sport into a Rubicon capable jeep so you might want to save up until you reach the point that you can purchase what you want. Building a Rubicon capable jeep from a sport letting other people do it for you and paying them to do it will rack up more money spent than if you purchase a Rubicon. So this choice is both difficult and easy at the same time. Sometimes the choice is made for you by what is available on the use market in your area. Careful searching may turn up what you want at a price that you can afford to pay.

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Hi all. I've recently been in need of a vehicle to get to places such as school and work and one to have for fun on the weekends. I love doing anything outdoors such as camping and hiking and because of such I've decided that a Jeep Wrangler is what I want to drive. Not to mention the amount of custom parts and modifications you can make to those beasts! I also love the fact that you can take the top off on days like today. (it's about 90 here, sunny, barely any clouds in the sky, and a little bit of breeze) So I know the Jeep Wrangler is for me.
My problem is that I'm not too sure which Wrangler is for me though. I'm looking for around a 2007-2008 model because I love the new body style but don't want to spend a huge sum of money. Now I really love the Rubicon 4x4 but I'm not sure whether or not I should I go ahead and step up to that hauss or start out with a Sport. I'll mainly be driving on the streets as the only time I get to go do fun stuff outdoors is when I'm not working on the weekends.
So can anybody help me out that owns one of these models? I'm really looking forward to the day I can take of the top and just cruise with the sun beating down and the breeze rolling through. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Well first of all, don't buy any car based on resale value.Test drive them both and evaluate based on which one suits you best.Frankly,its your first Jeep,so my gut feeling is go with the Sport or X.You have years of Jeep purchasing ahead of you .You will love your X or sport also,I guarantee it!Have fun searching and enjoy the outdoors.
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You would be surprised how capable a stock Sport is off road, obviously not quite as good as the rubicon, but definitely still enough to have fun. Several people on here can validate that. Its a jeep, you'll love it no matter what!
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Thanks for all of the help guys! I think I'm going to buy the Sport, as it would be less money out of my pocket and I'll most likely fall in love with the Wrangler and buy a Rubicon later on down the road.

If you guys don't mind I have another question, what is the difference between a Sport and an X? Would I notice driving to school or work everyday or is the difference more off-road capability?
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Pretty sure Sports and X's are about the same, maybe some interior trim differences. Some years were Sports, others X's... Iirc....
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Ah I see. I'm looking at about a 2007-2008 Jeep Wrangler Sport/X right now.

2007 Jeep Wrangler X in Gulf Freeway, TX- 6563998 at carmax.com

Something like that would be amazing an exactly would I would want. Does anybody something close to this model and tell me how much you paid? Or is $20k a good price for a 2007 Jeep Wrangler X?
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That seems to be pretty close to the asking prices around me...
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So would you say go for it or wait it out for a better deal?


Also, can you go back and put the Rubicon wheel package on the X? If so how much does it cost?
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Sure you can put Rubi wheels on an X. If you can find some takeoffs, the prices will vary depending on if you get tires with them and the condition of the tires. Just check the for sale section here, and CL and ebay and stuff. They're everywhere... Keep in mind the stock wheels (all of them) limit how wide a tire you can put on, unless you put spacers on.

Prices will probably slip a bit after Labor day, but if you wait too long they creep up again as snow threatens. Off seasons are maybe a bit better for buying a Jeep, kinda like a bike or any other convertible. But if you find a deal that you are happy with, then by all means you should go for it. Someone will always get a better deal than you did... Harsh, but true. As long as you're happy with it, that's all that matters.
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Thanks. You've all really helped me out a lot in my decision. Especially you Inferno Girl. Anyways I appreciate the help from you guys and gals!
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Hehe, no problem, I LOVE buying vehicles, even if they aren't mine!
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If you guys don't mind I have another question, what is the difference between a Sport and an X? Would I notice driving to school or work everyday or is the difference more off-road capability?
The X model has been around for quite a few years even prior to the beginning of the JK series of wranglers in 2007. They changed the name from X to Sport I think in 2009. So if you buy a newer wrangler, it will be known as a sport instead of an X but same thing basically.
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The X model has been around for quite a few years even prior to the beginning of the JK series of wranglers in 2007. They changed the name from X to Sport I think in 2009. So if you buy a newer wrangler, it will be known as a sport instead of an X but same thing basically.


Actually I do believe 2010 is when the Sports became the X's
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The X model has been around for quite a few years even prior to the beginning of the JK series of wranglers in 2007. They changed the name from X to Sport I think in 2009. So if you buy a newer wrangler, it will be known as a sport instead of an X but same thing basically.
The name changed for the 2010 model year. I have a 2009 X. Before the name changed to X, it was Sport. They just changed it back. Any changes in features is just what it would have been for that year regardless of the name change.
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Yah, I wasn't sure if it was 2009 or 2010. That is the type of result that releasing the new model year when only half of the current year is over causes...you get year confusion!

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Ah I see. I'm looking at about a 2007-2008 Jeep Wrangler Sport/X right now.

2007 Jeep Wrangler X in Gulf Freeway, TX- 6563998 at carmax.com

Something like that would be amazing an exactly would I would want. Does anybody something close to this model and tell me how much you paid? Or is $20k a good price for a 2007 Jeep Wrangler X?
One thing to think about with the vehicle above - it's a hard top. You mentioned wanting to drive around with the top down in nice weather. I'm new to Jeeps ('07 JK X soft top), I'm sure others could advise on the pros/cons of either top when top down flexibility is desired.......

Fwiw - I paid $16K for my '07 JK X 6 spd soft top with 29K miles here in Oregon, from a dealer no less. The price seems almost too low, but, the CARFAX shows 1 previous owner and no other issues so I've got my fingers crossed. I'm very happy with it, it makes pleasant mechanical sounds and feels really solid on the road, and is just plain fun to drive, and I'm just 1" of rear window zipper travel from getting the top down *sighs*. Good luck with your hunt !!
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Something like that would be amazing an exactly would I would want. Does anybody something close to this model and tell me how much you paid? Or is $20k a good price for a 2007 Jeep Wrangler X?
Paid 21K for a new X with A/C (Crysler still charges for it) and Sirus. Don't know that I'd go 20k for for an 07 unless it was tricked out and low, low miles.

I know you will love what ever you get - especially the first time you ford a stream or climb a muddy hill ....
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Paid 21K for a new X with A/C (Crysler still charges for it) and Sirus. Don't know that I'd go 20k for for an 07 unless it was tricked out and low, low miles.

I know you will love what ever you get - especially the first time you ford a stream or climb a muddy hill ....
I agree,20,000 for an 07??? thats crazy.Offer 15,or go after a new wrangler sport.Something doesn't seem right there.
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Ok John!

Here's my $.02 worth!

The JK Series Wranglers in '07/'08/'09 were X Models. The SPORT Model began with the '10's. (I have an '09).

Which One? Rubi or X?: The X is more than capable of going Off-Road, and going to-n-thru places you probably wouldn't think it would. Unless you are planning on going Rock-Krawling or Stump-Humping with your Jeep, I'd suggest the X as a good start for your First Jeep. It'll save you some serious $$$ as a starter, and be more than enough Jeep to get you into the Jeep Realm of AWESOMENESS!

Having suggested the X Model, let me now suggest the Sport Model. As I mentioned above, the Sport started with the 2010's. Looking at your link above, the '07 X for $20K, with 27K Miles, may be a GOOD Buy, but maybe not a GREAT Buy. You can get some better deals now, on a New Jeep Wrangler, that not only have Incentives/Rebates, but a FACTORY WARRANTY too! I'd suggest, for a little more than you'd pay for a Used '07, that you Finance a bit more, and go for a New '10 Model. For one, you'll get a Better Financing Deal on a New vs Used.

Tops: If you're wanting to go Top-Down/Top-Off often, you might want to consider the Soft Top, or Dual Top Option, if you're in need of a Hard Top too. My '09 came with a Hard Top, and I made the Deal right there in the Dealer's Office, to swap it for a Soft Top, before I signed the papers. They swapped it in their Service Dept about a week later. LOVE THE SOFT TOP!!!!! I had the Hard Top for a week, and HATED IT! I felt as though I was still driving around in my wife's Isuzu Rodeo. So, the Dual Top may be another consideration for you.

FYI, there were some Recalls with Soft Tops on the '07's and I believe the '08's, and also a Recall for Soft Top Headers on '07's-'09's. These are fixed now, with the 2010's, so you'd have a better chance of NOT getting the Leaks and Wind Noise, some of us have already had. This is the 4th year for the JK, so most of the Bugs are worked out.

Also, the only differences that I'm aware of, between the '09 X and the '10 Sport, are the "X" and "SPORT" decals, the Sun Visors, and the Cable Assisted Soft Top. The '10's have a bigger & sliding Visor, whereas the earlier '07's-'09's had a smaller/useless non-sliding visor. Also..... the '10's have VANITY MIRRORS!!! You may not care, but it could be a major deal for your Wife or GF! I kid you not! My wife was upset because there wasn't a mirror on her visor, so I picked up a clip-one at Walley World. Late last year, I just upgraded to the '10 Visors, since the ones I had were usless on Sunny days. Oh yeah..... mine has a Mirror too! There is now a Cable Assist on the Soft Tops for '10 Models, where there was a Plastic Snap "V" Gutter Retainer on the earlier JK's.

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