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Old 08-21-2014, 09:00 PM   #1
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Pics of Unlimited with 35" Tires/ 18" Wheels/ 4" Lift

Brand new owner of my first jeep!! Looking to put some 35" tires, 18" wheels with a 4" lift. I want to make sure it's something I enjoy looking at before I commit ( yes, I have commitment issues- I am female, what do you expect!)

Plus, I'll take any recommendations for an all terrain tire, I drive hwy daily, so MTs probably aren't the wisest decision!

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Old 08-21-2014, 09:04 PM   #2
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My friends 13' Sahara on a 4.5" aev lift, and 315/70R17 duratrac's(34.4") Girls look good driving done up jeeps this ones owned by a female as well.
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Old 08-21-2014, 09:28 PM   #3
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Ooo yea!! I like! Love the green too!!
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Not an unlimited, but 3.5 inch, 35x12.5/17. 18's look a little too big on 35's IMO. Plus they cost more.
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Old 08-22-2014, 03:54 AM   #5
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I have 18" Rockstar II's on Open Country Toyo M/T's 35x12.5x18, with a 4 inch lift. So this is exactly what you're looking for!







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Old 08-22-2014, 04:16 AM   #6
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Just some friendly info.
Most coils level the jeep .. It's not uncommon to get 5" of lift with 4 inch coils
4" is very tough on the driveline, steering angles, vehicle roll center, front caster angle, etc.
Do not go cheap at that height. Track bars x2, track bar brackets at the axle x2, all 8 CA's with quality bushings, flipped drag link. Most likely both driveshafts If not sooner ... Later) Longer shocks, etc
There's no such thing as a budget 4" lift .. Period. Plan to spend $3000k for just the kit/driveshafts.

Sorry to be the Debbie downer just like to warn people of what to expect with higher lifts.

With all that being said .. 2.5 coils work fine with a 35" tire. Stock wheels require wheel spacers but work. People will also trim or run flat flares for the appearance of more lift.
A small body lift is also a great way to sneak another 1" under your jeep with no effect on handling/geometry ... Good luck.
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[QUOTE=M1CR0B1AL;12838818]I have 18" Rockstar II's on Open Country Toyo M/T's 35x12.5x18, with a 4 inch lift. So this is exactly what you're looking for!



I love those wheels! I was planning on going with Rockstar 2s, but I heard they are a nightmare to keep clean.
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I have 18" Rockstar II's on Open Country Toyo M/T's 35x12.5x18, with a 4 inch lift. So this is exactly what you're looking for!
Nice!! What did you change the 5th wheel rack??
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Just some friendly info. Most coils level the jeep .. It's not uncommon to get 5" of lift with 4 inch coils 4" is very tough on the driveline, steering angles, vehicle roll center, front caster angle, etc. Do not go cheap at that height. Track bars x2, track bar brackets at the axle x2, all 8 CA's with quality bushings, flipped drag link. Most likely both driveshafts If not sooner ... Later) Longer shocks, etc There's no such thing as a budget 4" lift .. Period. Plan to spend $3000k for just the kit/driveshafts. Sorry to be the Debbie downer just like to warn people of what to expect with higher lifts. With all that being said .. 2.5 coils work fine with a 35" tire. Stock wheels require wheel spacers but work. People will also trim or run flat flares for the appearance of more lift. A small body lift is also a great way to sneak another 1" under your jeep with no effect on handling/geometry ... Good luck.
Oh boy!! Now I feel like I am getting in over my head.... And wallet!!
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Old 08-22-2014, 01:54 PM   #10
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I have 18" Rockstar II's on Open Country Toyo M/T's 35x12.5x18, with a 4 inch lift. So this is exactly what you're looking for!

I love those wheels! I was planning on going with Rockstar 2s, but I heard they are a nightmare to keep clean.
If you're on pavement most of the time, they will stay clean if weather permits. If you're driving on dirt roads, then yes, they'll stay dirty. Otherwise I just hose them off and wipe them down afterwards, doesn't take very long.

I drove them for a solid 2 weeks and a short (hour long) highway trip to a cabin party and everyone was saying how they looked like they were just out of the dealership, and was flown over to the party because it was so clean still.


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Nice!! What did you change the 5th wheel rack??
The wheel carrier is one from smittybuilt, it came with my deal for the lift, tires and wheels. But, I am going to be replacing it. I don't like having all the weight of the wheel/tire on the door. If you're going for larger, heavier tires, get a new tire carrier that swings open and isn't carried on the door.

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Oh boy!! Now I feel like I am getting in over my head.... And wallet!!
Yes, it's going to cost a lot. and it's going to continue costing a lot. With this large of a lift and these tires, you'll have to change a ton of things in order for the vehicle to function at stock functionality, let alone higher performance. With all the upgrades due to the lift, wheels, tires, and elsewhere, i've added $8,000 to it (and that is with discounts). I still need to regear from 3.21 gears to (personal preference) 4.53 gears. That will cost me another $1200-$2000 and is pretty much a must for these tires. And, as I said earlier, I would like a new tire carrier so there isn't so much weight on the back door.

Another personal preference, but I'd prefer getting this...




Which will run me another $700-$800 uninstalled.

Before you do ANY big upgrades like this, I would suggest saving up $10,000. You'll probably never spend it all, but you'll have enough to get everything you want, and keep the vehicle functional.

I had the dealership install all of this stuff so that I wasn't spending a bunch of money all at once. Instead of $510 a month my vehicle costs me $630 a month. For all those upgrades (and more I didn;t list), I feel a lot better about the cost.

We'll be doing the same thing for my wife's 2015 jeep next year (although probably only new tires, wheels, and a front bumper. Nothing bigger, just more functional.
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Old 08-22-2014, 02:32 PM   #11
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The quotes I am getting are between 5k to 6k, including:
4" lift
855 KO 18x9 Wheels
Toyo OC AT2 325/60/18
Alignment
Nerf Bars
Dual Stabilizer
And some small extras
Plus install
That's was quoted at $4800
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Keep researching. Anybody selling you a dual stabilizer is not a good Jeep shop, totally unnecessary. A good 3.5-4 inch lift and shocks parts only should run around 2500 by itself. As kjeeper said, 2.5 is good for 35's, 3.5 at the most unless you are going to spend real big money. Sorry, just noticed that is around 10k already quoted. What brand lift is it?
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Keep researching. Anybody selling you a dual stabilizer is not a good Jeep shop, totally unnecessary. A good 3.5-4 inch lift and shocks parts only should run around 2500 by itself. As kjeeper said, 2.5 is good for 35's, 3.5 at the most unless you are going to spend real big money. Sorry, just noticed that is around 10k already quoted. What brand lift is it?
He said "rugged" something... It doesn't say on the quote though, was just $500.

I figured they were adding unnecessary items, seeing as I really don't know much! I know a look I'm trying to accomplish, and it's becoming a pain! I need honesty! And real world! -- so I ended up here!!
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With a 500 lift, especially at that height, you will dislike driving your Jeep. Keep reading through search function of this forum, you will learn a lot for free. Not getting a lot of info here because this is the build section, check the tech sticky section for information overload about lifts.
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With a 500 lift, especially at that height, you will dislike driving your Jeep. Keep reading through search function of this forum, you will learn a lot for free. Not getting a lot of info here because this is the build section, check the tech sticky section for information overload about lifts.

Bingo, a $500 lift at these heights is simply not going to be fun to drive. If you are planning your Jeep to mainly be a daily driver, consider a 3.5" AEV setup. Their setup serves as an excellent platform for a daily driver and still offers a ton of off-road performance. I am running a 3.5" AEV setup with some other goodies too, but I couldn't be happier with the handling characteristics.

As others have mentioned, ditch the dual stabilizer. They are probably selling you that setup to do everything possible to mask the budget lift. I am using the FOX ATS Steering Stabilizer, but it is a bit overkill and not necessary.

In my opinion (we all have one right? ), you would do quite well with an AEV 3.5" DualSport ($1,725) setup as a starting point. As others have mentioned, plan more $$$ in the future. 35" tires will wear components sooner such as the ball joints, tie rod ends, etc.

Good luck and be sure to post some pictures once you get it all set up!
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Just adding my 2 cents. I spent $2200 for my lift installed but more important than price i made sure the lift I got corrected all the angles for drivability. A friend of mine paid $800 installed for her rough country installed. I am comfortable driving it every day...it's a DD. I get into hers and it's miserable. She even hates driving it so it literally just sits in her driveway and she uses her husbands charger to go work as he works nights.

I can't imagine spending 35k on a jeep and hating to drive it.
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I have heard (around the interwebs) that you do not need aftermarket steering stabilyzers. Any comments...GO!
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As has been said before you don't need dual steering stabilizers. I did a 3.5" Rubicon Express lift. 3.5" you can still run stock shafts but you have to get exhaust spacers. There are 4" kits that don't require a driveshaft because the severely limit suspension travel. The AEV kit is good. Also plan on a tuner or at least a pro cal. For tires I'd look at BFG A/T's or Bridgestone Duelers. Quiet, they'll track nicely. I'm on 17's but this is mine. I'm running 35" trail grappler m/t's. I also run the ORFab tire/gas can carrier
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For sure what was said about stabilizer. A dialed in suspension really doesn't even need one. I still have my stock stabilizer on a 3.5 inch that netted me 4 inches. Mine drives 70 down the highway like a new Honda accord.
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I have heard (around the interwebs) that you do not need aftermarket steering stabilyzers. Any comments...GO!
Techniquely ,no you shouldn't. The vehicle should track and drive straight without it. However, with trucks/jeeps that carry higher load of the front can have a jouncing effect that a stabilizer helps with. It's help for not feeling small bumps and grooves that normally you'd feel.
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Techniquely ,no you shouldn't. The vehicle should track and drive straight without it. However, with trucks/jeeps that carry higher load of the front can have a jouncing effect that a stabilizer helps with. It's help for not feeling small bumps and grooves that normally you'd feel.
I the RE 3.5 and I didn't even out on the aftermarket stabilizer just left on the stock one. It runs good so far. Also I didn't need exhaust spacers or shafts
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Thank you all!! I desperately need all this information! I really appreciate all the advise!! I'm getting excited!
Now just to find a decent shop!!
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Thank you all!! I desperately need all this information! I really appreciate all the advise!! I'm getting excited!
Now just to find a decent shop!!
I'd suggest posting in the regional forum, for your state, and ask about shops. Worked out well a few years back when I discovered one in Texas.
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Rockstar lift with 35" Tires:
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Rockstar lift with 35" Tires:
Do you have the standard 5th wheel rack on the back still with the 35"? Does it feel like it's killing the door??
Or did you add/upgrade the rack??
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I have a 2.5 rough country . 35" on 17 XD addicts love it. All done today has 60 miles now
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The quotes I am getting are between 5k to 6k, including:
4" lift
855 KO 18x9 Wheels
Toyo OC AT2 325/60/18
Alignment
Nerf Bars
Dual Stabilizer
And some small extras
Plus install
That's was quoted at $4800

You know the Toyo OC AT2 325/60/18 is a 33" tire? I would recommend the following if you want a 35 with an 18" rim:

35 x 12.50 R18
LT 325/65R18
LT 305/70R18
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Do you have the standard 5th wheel rack on the back still with the 35"? Does it feel like it's killing the door?? Or did you add/upgrade the rack??
I would go with aftermarket if your hitting trails. On the road you may get away with it unless you hit big enough pot hole but I've seen a spare 35 start buckling or creasing a JKs rear door.

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