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Old 02-16-2014, 09:41 AM   #31
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My question would be what kind of prep was done prior and from reading is see it was masked off? That's it? Let's keep track of this one over time. Personally I think you just lost 3K for a new paint job. Having worked for a company highly involved in the automotive painting process and coatings companies for my entire career this has trouble written all over it. So you you didn't remove any wax, prep the surface with a light scuff sand -just sprayed it? I see adhesion issues as a never ending issue in the future. Someone asked about the original finish. Try getting it all off and then show us what it looks like. It might not be to bad as the wax will offer some protection. Chrysler uses a soft paint system an this stuff is attaching itself to the paint in one of 2 way or a combination.

Mechanical- The new coating locks into voids and imperfections in the original paint finish. With no prep being done this is going to be difficult at best and if it does it is getting imbedded in the original finish. Not easy to remove.

Chemical- A chemical reaction will occur between the new coating and the existing allowing them to bond-melt together to get adhesion. I doubt this would be the case here. If so you original finish would be toast and there removal claims would be a joke.

I would say Mechanical adhesion and it is getting deeper into the oirginal finish every day.

I had a buddy with I lifted white Chevy getting married. His high school buddies show up with markers to write all over the truck. I am like BS that is not going to happen. They showed me they were safe for car finishes etc. I argued with the drunken mullet heads but they took full responsibility. I will tell you this much. 2 years later you could still read what they wrote on the truck when he traded it in. Seeing "Cock Smoker" and others creative writings in the paint did not help his trade in value. He spent a ton of money trying get it our of the finish. The paint sucked it up and unless you were planning to said thru the paint it was there to stay. The longer it bakes in the sun the deep it is going to go. I was on his truck for about 24 hours and it was hosed. These are expensive finishes you are playing with. On a scratched or beat up paint job I totally get it. I new car. I would have found a Jeep paint the color I wanted or was professionally done. Like to see how well those silver door jam hold up to traffic when you get those coated. If the product come off that easy it not going to hold up to any wear at all.

Rule 1# when coating anything. Preparation is 80% of a good of a paint job on anything. Getting the coating sprayed on is the easy part.

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^ are you familiar with plasti dip?

To OP, looks good. How many coats did you put on?

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How do you deal with car in your registration? Color should match or you will get ticket. I am not big fan of plasti-dipping but if you are happy it is + to you.
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What did you do with the door jams? Can you post a pic with the door open?
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This would be the most extensive plasti-dip job that I have seen. I would like to see some better pics as well.

Keep us posted on how well it holds up.

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This would be the most extensive plasti-dip job that I have seen. I would like to see some better pics as well.

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Old 02-16-2014, 10:43 AM   #37
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That looks fantastic! I wish I had the patients to do this properly.

Congratulations on the great looking plasti dip.
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Old 02-16-2014, 10:55 AM   #38
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My question would be what kind of prep was done prior and from reading is see it was masked off? That's it? Let's keep track of this one over time. Personally I think you just lost 3K for a new paint job. Having worked for a company highly involved in the automotive painting process and coatings companies for my entire career this has trouble written all over it. So you you didn't remove any wax, prep the surface with a light scuff sand -just sprayed it? I see adhesion issues as a never ending issue in the future. Someone asked about the original finish. Try getting it all off and then show us what it looks like. It might not be to bad as the wax will offer some protection. Chrysler uses a soft paint system an this stuff is attaching itself to the paint in one of 2 way or a combination.

Mechanical- The new coating locks into voids and imperfections in the original paint finish. With no prep being done this is going to be difficult at best and if it does it is getting imbedded in the original finish. Not easy to remove.

Chemical- A chemical reaction will occur between the new coating and the existing allowing them to bond-melt together to get adhesion. I doubt this would be the case here. If so you original finish would be toast and there removal claims would be a joke.

I would say Mechanical adhesion and it is getting deeper into the oirginal finish every day.

I had a buddy with I lifted white Chevy getting married. His high school buddies show up with markers to write all over the truck. I am like BS that is not going to happen. They showed me they were safe for car finishes etc. I argued with the drunken mullet heads but they took full responsibility. I will tell you this much. 2 years later you could still read what they wrote on the truck when he traded it in. Seeing "Cock Smoker" and others creative writings in the paint did not help his trade in value. He spent a ton of money trying get it our of the finish. The paint sucked it up and unless you were planning to said thru the paint it was there to stay. The longer it bakes in the sun the deep it is going to go. I was on his truck for about 24 hours and it was hosed. These are expensive finishes you are playing with. On a scratched or beat up paint job I totally get it. I new car. I would have found a Jeep paint the color I wanted or was professionally done. Like to see how well those silver door jam hold up to traffic when you get those coated. If the product come off that easy it not going to hold up to any wear at all.

Rule 1# when coating anything. Preparation is 80% of a good of a paint job on anything. Getting the coating sprayed on is the easy part.

I have personally seen dipped cars peel off like a banana when wanted to and not a thing change. People are using this as salt protection and paint protection on 100k cars.The only prep that is needed is a very clean car and then I sprayed a degreaser type compound to remove wax. I respect your opinion on the matter but believe you are 100% wrong and I have no problem showing results 6 months down the road. I will probably be removing the hood layer if I cannot fix the light tiger striping, that was not the dips fault but mine since I am not skilled with a sprayer and got my lines messed up.
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^ are you familiar with plasti dip?

To OP, looks good. How many coats did you put on?
Put around 7 coats total I believe.
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It's done all the time with other makes/ models. Check out dipyourcar.com
Yes my jeep is small fries to what some people are doing in the dipping industry. Just saw a couple of Ferraris done recently.
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What did you do with the door jams? Can you post a pic with the door open?
I have not done the jams yet. or the Interior door panels. I will be doing those in the upcoming week.


Also, let me say this as well. Originally I wanted a vinyl wrap for a new color. Well that is $1500-2000. So I "settled" for this. I am fine if an imperfection pops up here or there because I can just fix it. I am not in the least bit concerned about ruining the paint underneath, if that was the case as the above person mentioned then everyone that has plastic dipped their hoods or grills would have shot their paint job to pieces. I have yet to see any of that. And for those that think it is weak, buy one can and spray upwards of 7 coats on a small piece of metal that has been prepped then just do a mini torture test. I actually may do this and video it later on.
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Hahah. Not even close. There are some spots that did not come out perfect. Due 100% to me. If you try to take of masking tape while the product is dry then you run the risk of pulling pieces up. which I did in about 3 spots. Those will be fixed once I get a little xylene.
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How do you deal with car in your registration? Color should match or you will get ticket. I am not big fan of plasti-dipping but if you are happy it is + to you.
I am friends with a few county officials and people in the "know". They said that if it was not permanent then I should have no problems. Whether that is them just saying hell dude don't worry about it, you're not going to be robbing a bank, or them quoting a law is unknown but I'll take their word.
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I have personally seen dipped cars peel off like a banana when wanted to and not a thing change. People are using this as salt protection and paint protection on 100k cars.The only prep that is needed is a very clean car and then I sprayed a degreaser type compound to remove wax. I respect your opinion on the matter but believe you are 100% wrong and I have no problem showing results 6 months down the road. I will probably be removing the hood layer if I cannot fix the light tiger striping, that was not the dips fault but mine since I am not skilled with a sprayer and got my lines messed up.
There is another thread here on the forum that refers to plasti dipping and this guy did his whole Jeep in a matte black. It looks really good. If I remember correctly, he had the same problem with his hood. I think he solved it by using a roller brush.

I just glanced through the thread a while back and I apologize for not being able to give you more information. A a imple search (the OP was about plasti dipping wheels) should bring it up. Hope this helps.
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^ are you familiar with plasti dip?

To OP, looks good. How many coats did you put on?
Yes. Used it on custom parts on many projects. I can even see it on a whole vehicle that has bad or damaged paint. Take your barnd new 30K Jeep and do it? I don't thinks so unless I brush striped the doors beyond repair. Hope you own it as I am sure the finance company would have issues as well as the state.

To OP, How much has it cost so far and why not just have it wrapped which is a proven method (No paint damage) that is getting cheaper by the day. Wraps take some skill to do right as does painting a vehicle.

Someone mentioned Rhino Lining ie (Polyurie). Try getting that one off your existing coating. Tuff stuff and great for certain specific applications. Another example of a product used way beyond its design to sometimes very damaging and costly results. Our company currently makes a full line of Polyurie coatings. In Europe they used it on roofs for years. Roughly 10 until they failed and you have to remove your entire roof! Those companies are out of or going out of business currently because of the liabilities. Be careful what you put on your paint if you ever want it to look original. I know wraps work. Seen in on Ferrari's and exotics afterwards and no issues. I have yet to see anyone spray their Lambo but I am sure there is an idiot thinking about it right now.
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No problem. What I did wrong was get the gun too close and leave heavy and light spots. the fix is to go over a light coat further away to try and smooth things out. ideally you would like the gun being sprayed at 6-8" but since my jeep is lifted it made the hood hard to reach and I made a mistake. The fix process requires you to go back to around 11-12" and spray a lighter coat. if that does not work I will peel and redip.
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Wow, that looks great! Not sure I'm brave enough to try on my Jeep... yet- but I've been thinking of a new paint job on my 71' Chevy Custom 20. Might save me $5K! Thanks for sharing the details!!
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Yes. Used it on custom parts on many projects. I can even see it on a whole vehicle that has bad or damaged paint. Take your barnd new 30K Jeep and do it? I don't thinks so unless I brush striped the doors beyond repair. Hope you own it as I am sure the finance company would have issues as well as the state.

To OP, How much has it cost so far and why not just have it wrapped which is a proven method (No paint damage) that is getting cheaper by the day. Wraps take some skill to do right as does painting a vehicle.

Someone mentioned Rhino Lining ie (Polyurie). Try getting that one off your existing coating. Tuff stuff and great for certain specific applications. Another example of a product used way beyond its design to sometimes very damaging and costly results. Our company currently makes a full line of Polyurie coatings. In Europe they used it on roofs for years. Roughly 10 until they failed and you have to remove your entire roof! Those companies are out of or going out of business currently because of the liabilities. Be careful what you put on your paint if you ever want it to look original. I know wraps work. Seen in on Ferrari's and exotics afterwards and no issues. I have yet to see anyone spray their Lambo but I am sure there is an idiot thinking about it right now.
Well thanks for implying I am an idiot for doing it. That is fine. However, to answer your questions. Cost was about a 1/4 to do this than a wrap, that included the sprayer. If you don't like the product then that is absolutely fine. Plenty of people think it is worthless, wont hold up, etc. Maybe it wont in the long run. I have no fear of any permanent damage being done to the paint. Like I said, what damage have you seen from people plasti dipping their hoods or grills from JKs? What about another person I saw do it with rattle cans and then remove it without any problems other than he sprayed too light of a coat on? You seem to be knowledgeable about the painting industry so I cannot really argue with the logic that you are putting behind it. I can just tell you to go to dipyourcar.com, look in the forums, and see proof behind it.
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.....well I'm certainly overwhelmed with the project....

like the photos & the color....

hope it all works as expected, I know nothing of the product. Somebody has to take the leap, good luck for sure.

re: "car in your registration? Color should match or you will get ticket. " I've never heard of this, can you supply link or reference?
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Some people have no idea what they are talking about. Plastidip leaves zero residue once peeled from the paint.

Peeling Plasti Dip off a Whole Car - YouTube

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If you are seriously considering doing it, read up a ton on it and then just dive in. I have zero paint experience and feel like I did a pretty good job with it.

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.....well I'm certainly overwhelmed with the project....

like the photos & the color....

hope it all works as expected, I know nothing of the product. Somebody has to take the leap, good luck for sure.

re: "car in your registration? Color should match or you will get ticket. " I've never heard of this, can you supply link or reference?
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As a person with a degree in Psychology it is almost impossible for me to just dismiss a person's opinion or "knowledge" on a subject. I always like to delve a little deeper. I know, with a high amount of certainty, that nothing catastrophic is going to happen.

Now if it would have gotten on my soft top, that would have been another story for another time. It is pretty obvious he has not worked with plastidip extensively. Still fun to strike up a debate until I am labeled an idiot. God forbid I do something to enhance MY feelings towards MY Jeep, haha.


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Some people have no idea what they are talking about. Plastidip leaves zero residue once peeled from the paint.

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Looks really cool.
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Sorry if this was asked and I missed it, but did you take the tires off the wheels to do them, just remove the tire/wheel from the jeep, or paint the wheels while on the jeep? I want to do my wheels black with dip. BTW, nice job, I like it, and the color. That's why I got Commando Green on my 2013.
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I like it and it's definitely safe for the finish. As for the debate between wrap and dip - I actually like dip better. I'd be interested in seeing pics of the door jambs when you have them.
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Looks awesome. Some of the replies to this are pretty amusing.. Like your finance company having an issue with this.. Do they come out and inspect your vehicle frequently to make sure your not adding anything aftermarket? Honestly now that your paint is completely protected against light scratches, down the road your paint will probably be in better condition than a jeep of the same year and use.. Oh wait thats only if the plastidip doesn't eat your paint off!

I am also interested what is the approximate cost for this?
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Did the wheels on the Jeep. If I had to do it over again I would take them off. It would make life a whole lot easier that way

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Sorry if this was asked and I missed it, but did you take the tires off the wheels to do them, just remove the tire/wheel from the jeep, or paint the wheels while on the jeep? I want to do my wheels black with dip. BTW, nice job, I like it, and the color. That's why I got Commando Green on my 2013.
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I spent $450 exactly. That was for the sprayer, 3 gallons of paint, masking accessories, 4 cans of black for the wheels...Once you have a sprayer system the sprayable dip can be had for decently cheap offline.


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Looks awesome. Some of the replies to this are pretty amusing.. Like your finance company having an issue with this.. Do they come out and inspect your vehicle frequently to make sure your not adding anything aftermarket? Honestly now that your paint is completely protected against light scratches, down the road your paint will probably be in better condition than a jeep of the same year and use.. Oh wait thats only if the plastidip doesn't eat your paint off!

I am also interested what is the approximate cost for this?

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