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Old 05-21-2009, 01:30 AM   #1
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Soft top rear window micro mod

I recently purchased the mopar bag to put the plastic windows in. In the process of using it the first time, I noticed a couple of small thin strips of plastic on the bead that holds the window into the aluminium rail at the bottom. Upon closer inspection, I could see that the strips were created by sliding the bead into the channel. The end of the channel has pretty sharp edges. Call me a spaz (not to be confused with "thegolfspaz" but I just spent about a half hour filing the edges on both sides of the rail round. Here is a picture of the end:

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When I put the bead back in after filing it went in pretty easy and no more shreading the plastic on the bead. This may be a minor detail but over time, it would effect the wear on the plastic that holds the bead to the bottom of the window. Possibly wear right through it. I thought that some might be interested in the minor correction.

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Old 05-24-2009, 04:14 PM   #2
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Different Problem

I have a Clover Patch window roll that I have been using since I bought my 07. I take my rear window out completely all the time and have no problems with shredding.

My problem is with the stupid plastic clips that hold the rod onto the tub. Not only can I not keep them in place, but they prevent getting the last clip on the sail secure.

I am thinking about cutting the rod short so it is only the length of the tailgate. And possibly putting some magnets on it to prevent it from rattling. Then I could just ditch the plastic clips completely.

Have you ever heard of anyone doing anything like this? Any advice?

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Old 05-24-2009, 04:26 PM   #3
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2 door or 4 door, what top?
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Old 05-24-2009, 04:28 PM   #4
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It's a 2 door with a soft top only. I have no problems with rain, but worry that may be a problem if I cut the rod.
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Old 05-24-2009, 06:56 PM   #6
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I'm not going to be much help on the two door but someone else with one will most likely chime in here. Also you could start another thread with a title that leads to more looking at it to help you out.
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On the four door none of the top supports are attached to the tub. On the two door there are two bows? So this would be the middle one? How new is the vehicle? If it is new or the top has been newly put on, then it should be tight. The sun should relax it. If the support were shortened, if it were my top, I would be concerned that it wouldn't stretch properly any more and not look right.
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Mine is an 07 JK. This is the same on the 2 door and 4 door. Here is a link to the same rod you are talking about above and the clips I am talking about: MOPAR® Tailgate Bar & Retainers for 07-09 Jeep Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec The clips are not permanently attached but slide on. My problem is they keep sliding off.

I have already lost the left clip. It would only cost $10 to replace it and maybe a new one would stay on better. But this still leaves me with two more problems.

1. The plastic tab on the side "sail" of the soft top does not clip under the rubber thing. Here is a photo from a "how to put your top down" instruction showing how it is supposed to look. http://project-jk.com/images/writeup...f/DSC04467.jpg Mine always has the tab sticking out, or it pops the rubber clip off.

2. That bar gets in the way of everything. Whether I am getting stuff in and out of the back, or just putting my top up and down it is always bugging me.

There should be no problem with the rear window still being taught. The zippers do most of the stretching. And since these things are always falling off or my top isn't 100% on, the weather protection should be the same. (I have no problems with leaking now.)

The only purpose the clips serve is to hold that rod in place. So the rod may slide or rattle. My solution was going to be to attach some magnets (not sure how yet) that would stick to the tailgate. This would secure the bar but separate as soon as you open the tailgate.

If I get the balls to cut up a perfectly good $75 factory part and try this mod I will post a thread on it. Right now it is all theory. I also need to figure out the magnets.
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Ok, that post leaves no doubt about what parts are causing headaches. On my vehicle, same parts. Like yours mine are loose and sometimes it takes me a few tries to get them settled. I remove them when the top is fully down for fear of losing them. When placing them back, I hook them on the metal flange on the outside of the car and flex the inside hook shaped plastic flange to bring it over the inside metal flange. If gently slid along the flange there is a stop and as memory serves me correctly, the stop can be overshot so I try to be careful when finding it's position. After I'm sure it is in place I put the plastic flange from the top "sail" under it. Once all is in place and the door is shut, it seems pretty solid. I'm still not sold on this system but until a mod comes out that works better, I'm stuck with putting up with it.

Lately, when putting items in the jeep from the back, I unzip the two sides roll the window and put it in the loops that are snapped to the top. It is certainly not as nice as using the rear gate when the hard top is on but I guess that is the price to be paid for using the soft top. I love using the soft top in the summer. Hard top will go back on sometime in October.
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Looking back at your original post about the rod length, cutting it would make it more convenient when trying to get it in there but I would be worried about it not being able to stay put in the plastic ends.

When rolling the window up, I sometimes have to slip part of the top "sail" out to be able to slip the rod out of its anchor. I don't know how I would change it to make it better.
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I just went out and looked at mine and the distances look exactly the same as in your picture. Nothing different.

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