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Old 04-20-2014, 11:08 AM   #1
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4-5" with 31s

I know you guys probably didn't run like it for long but I'm getting ready to do zones 4" kit with 1" spacers on top. I currently have 31s and due to being an 18 year old kid I won't have the money to regear and get new tires until probably July.

So I'm just wanting to get kind of a basic idea on what my Jeep will look like with the bigger lift and 31s.

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Old 04-20-2014, 06:48 PM   #2
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One word. . . . . . Goofy! Put the lift to the side save up for tires and do it all at once.

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Old 04-20-2014, 07:31 PM   #3
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One word. . . . . . Goofy! Put the lift to the side save up for tires and do it all at once.
^ being 16 i would do what he said putting that lift on without regearing it could cause problems
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^ being 16 i would do what he said putting that lift on without regearing it could cause problems
I plan on regearing before bigger tires but the lift and stock gears isn't gonna make a big difference.

I know it's not gonna look the best with 31s but I'm fine with rolling with it for a couple months
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Old 04-21-2014, 06:42 PM   #5
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Im actually about to do the exact same thing with a 4 inch kit. I have 31 bfgs. i found a pic earlier that was a good example. I'd like to see some more as well. Someone post some pics please!!!
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You run your rig as you see fit, either you don't mind the look or you do.. However going back to the pictures, most don't take pictures of their rigs like that cause it's an 'incomplete' project look. People usually only run Picts after a major install that they're proud of.. Good luck on the built though.
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Old 04-22-2014, 08:55 AM   #7
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^ being 16 i would do what he said putting that lift on without regearing it could cause problems
Changing to a larger tire size is when regearing matters. The lift doesn't care.

If it were me and you want some height now, I would install the body lift and motor mount lift that comes with the kit. Save up for tires and then install the springs and re-gear.
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:10 AM   #8
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You run your rig as you see fit, either you don't mind the look or you do.. However going back to the pictures, most don't take pictures of their rigs like that cause it's an 'incomplete' project look. People usually only run Picts after a major install that they're proud of.. Good luck on the built though.
I see what you mean about the unfinished part. I won't be completely happy with the smaller tires but I'm gonna be really happy with the extra height. Worst case scenario I'll be running with the smaller tires for about a month and a half.

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Changing to a larger tire size is when regearing matters. The lift doesn't care. If it were me and you want some height now, I would install the body lift and motor mount lift that comes with the kit. Save up for tires and then install the springs and re-gear.
I'm not doing the combo kit. I'm doing the full 4" suspension and then gonna do 1" spacers on top of the coils.
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I'm not doing the combo kit. I'm doing the full 4" suspension and then gonna do 1" spacers on top of the coils.
Coil spacers on top of a spring lift is considered a bad idea. You will achieve the same effect with some actual benefits and fewer compromises if you do a small body lift and motor mount lift.

Now for the important questions. With 4" of spring lift (never mind the extra 1" coil spacer...), are you also including a slip yoke eliminator and a CV drive shaft? How about control arms? Extended brake lines?

I will not be the first one who is going to tell you that you might want to slow down and learn what it really takes to lift a Jeep. What you want to do is expensive even if you do it right on every step. Things get really expensive if you don't develop a clear plan to work from.
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Coil spacers on top of a spring lift is considered a bad idea. You will achieve the same effect with some actual benefits and fewer compromises if you do a small body lift and motor mount lift.

Now for the important questions. With 4" of spring lift (never mind the extra 1" coil spacer...), are you also including a slip yoke eliminator and a CV drive shaft? How about control arms? Extended brake lines?

I will not be the first one who is going to tell you that you might want to slow down and learn what it really takes to lift a Jeep. What you want to do is expensive even if you do it right on every step. Things get really expensive if you don't develop a clear plan to work from.
+1. Spacers don't cost much, maybe you should get some 2 inch spacers for now, be happy with some lift and a rig that looks good, then get everything else together if you really want some height now.
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Coil spacers on top of a spring lift is considered a bad idea. You will achieve the same effect with some actual benefits and fewer compromises if you do a small body lift and motor mount lift. Now for the important questions. With 4" of spring lift (never mind the extra 1" coil spacer...), are you also including a slip yoke eliminator and a CV drive shaft? How about control arms? Extended brake lines? I will not be the first one who is going to tell you that you might want to slow down and learn what it really takes to lift a Jeep. What you want to do is expensive even if you do it right on every step. Things get really expensive if you don't develop a clear plan to work from.
How are the spacers on top of the coils bad? I already have 2" rubicon express spacers on my stock coils without issues.

Yes, of course I'm doing the SYE and new driveshaft. I don't mean to sound rude and I know your just trying to help, but I'm not stupid.

I'm having a real good friend who owns a very reputable off road shop here in Reno do the lift for me. He wouldn't let me do something or put something on here that could easily be broken or that wouldn't match with what I already have.

And believe me, I know the money part of it. I worked my ass off for 14 days straight to be able to afford this. I'm not gonna lie though, I thought at first it wouldn't only be $800-1000 but my eyes got opened the more I researched. Right now I'm looking at $1600-1700 with everything that I'm doing.
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+1. Spacers don't cost much, maybe you should get some 2 inch spacers for now, be happy with some lift and a rig that looks good, then get everything else together if you really want some height now.
I'll probably go that route eventually but right now I only have the 4 cylinder and am only wanting to run 33s. I think it might start looking a little goofy with 6" of lift and 33s.

I plan on dropping in a 6 cyl way down the road and will probably regear and do 35s around that time. But although I know it's possible to run 35s on a 4 cyl I think it's a little too much for me right now.
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Just a suggestion imho. Anything bigger than a 30" on a 4 banger is going to be a struggle. I had 275/55/17s on my 4 cyl tj and it was terrible. I switched to a 245 70 17 with a 2" lift and it ran much better with no rub, however I still had to floor it to get up hills. I just purchased n 03 sahara 6 cyl and it had 33 x 12s with a 3 inch lift and 1.25" spacers. The tires were way too big so i switched them out for 31 x 9.5, removed the spacers, and i think it looks better and my gas mileage and performance will improve. The truck has 3.73 gears. I also have mt sidebiters which have significant backspace of 3.83 i think. This helps prevent the rub and the tires are nicely exposed at about an inch outside the stock flares. I put a before and after photo.
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:46 PM   #14
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Just a suggestion imho. Anything bigger than a 30" on a 4 banger is going to be a struggle. I had 275/55/17s on my 4 cyl tj and it was terrible. I switched to a 245 70 17 with a 2" lift and it ran much better with no rub, however I still had to floor it to get up hills. I just purchased n 03 sahara 6 cyl and it had 33 x 12s with a 3 inch lift and 1.25" spacers. The tires were way too big so i switched them out for 31 x 9.5, removed the spacers, and i think it looks better and my gas mileage and performance will improve. The truck has 3.73 gears. I also have mt sidebiters which have significant backspace of 3.83 i think. This helps prevent the rub and the tires are nicely exposed at about an inch outside the stock flares. I put a before and after photo.
Oh yeah! I definitely know that struggle of going up hills. I'm to the floor and still getting passed by semis. And I'm sure no matter what I do to the engine or if I ever do get to put a new engine in it I will never be hauling ass anywhere.
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Old 04-23-2014, 01:48 AM   #15
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Just gotta know WHEN to shift. I run 265/75/16 (32")treadwright guard dogs (HEAVY!) on my 4 cyl, 5 speed (no lift) and have no issues on hills on the highway cuz i downshift to 4th before the hill and keep the rpms above 2500.
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Just gotta know WHEN to shift. I run 265/75/16 (32")treadwright guard dogs (HEAVY!) on my 4 cyl, 5 speed (no lift) and have no issues on hills on the highway cuz i downshift to 4th before the hill and keep the rpms above 2500.
I have the 3 speed auto so I don't have much choice in when it shifts...

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