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Old 12-04-2006, 05:17 PM   #61
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That's pretty nice, Scoob....do you have a link to this kit?
Thanks, I got it from Northridge4X4 http://www.northridge4x4.com/proddet...?prod=FTS-7503

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If I get one of the SkyJacker 2" Spacer Lift kits.....am I going to have buy anything extra that doesn't come with the kit?

How much should a Jeep shop charge to install this lift? I change the oil, have changed the spark plugs, brakes, but that's about all I know as far as being mechanically inclined.....
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it will come with everything you need! if you get vibes (which you probably won't) you may need a t case drop kit. $200 for an install. but don't pay a dang shop. buy the tools and do it yourself. you'll learn a lot and its EASY. and yes you can add a BL later on if you want.
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they're fast! i leave for 5 minutes and come back and there is 10 new posts
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Sorry I had responded to your other thread before I saw this one. Like everyone said they can't resist a chance to show pics of their little garage buddy. Here's mine with a 6" suspension lift and 1" BL. No matter how big a rubber I want to run from here out I will never need anymore height out of it.
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Old 12-04-2006, 05:53 PM   #67
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Now that isn't an excuse! This is Jen on the left. She's about that tall.

and she isn't skurred!!
Ain't about skurred, it's about my *** in the air while I'm trying to get in the beast. And with my Napoleonic complex, someone says one word in the parking lot about me climbing in and I'm likely to get in a fight
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Old 12-04-2006, 07:05 PM   #68
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Could I get the 2" budget lift and then add a 1" body lift later on? Neither of these are too expensive....

I also saw this Warrior brand 4" lift kit for around $400 online...what do you think about this one?

http://www.quadratec.com/products/16121_403.htm
I would not install that kit on a jeep of mine. A 4" lift affects the operating geometry of control arms, trackbars, steering linkages, and driveshafts much more than a 2" lift.
I don't like trackbar relocation brackets- ESPECIALLY in front!
Those brackets are notorious for coming loose, cracking and placing added stress on your factory mounting brackets, which can crack the welds on those too.
High end suspension kits don't have those brackets, and definitely not in front. EVERY jeep that's ever come into our shop with a lower end lift that included a front trackbar bracket was experiencing very bad handling and wobble issues because of it.
Also, a 4" all suspension lift on a SWB TJ is asking for rear driveline trouble. A t-case drop is a poor solution at that point.

If you don't wanna spend the money on trackbars, and a host of other components, don't go with the 4" suspension lift.
On the cheap, if you wanna fit 33" tires, I don't have a problem with a BB combined with a BL/MML.
Running a BL allows you to keep all the suspension/driveline geometry flatter and happier and makes room for a bigger tire with less bumpstop needed.
A 2" BB along with a 1" BL needs an inch less bumpstop than a 3" suspension only lift.
There are MANY benefits to running a 1" BL...
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Old 12-04-2006, 07:19 PM   #69
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this guy knows what hes talkin about ^^
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Well I think I am going to get the 2" SkyJacker with the Nitro shocks and see how much it will cost for installation.

I don't want to end up having to buy all sorts of parts to go with my lift. I just want something simple and not too outrageous and definitely not too expensive now or in the long run. Thanks to everybody for their feedback!!!
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I just want something simple and not too outrageous and definitely not too expensive now or in the long run. Thanks to everybody for their feedback!!!

Then don't buy the skyjacker parts. Chances are you won't like them. How expensive are parts you throw in the trash??
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Old 12-04-2006, 07:49 PM   #72
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get a BB. thats a good plan. the skyjacker pucks should be the same as the other pucks though. the only thing you might not like is the shocks. you can either buy another brand BB that is not even more expensive or just a little more expensive and DEFINITELY under $500 even with real shocks or you can piece it and just buy a BB (no shocks) from 4 wheel customs (2.25") and then buy some good shocks that you want seperately. by the way, people are selling BB's all the time for real cheap.
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Old 12-04-2006, 08:24 PM   #74
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What brand BB would you recommend? How about this one?

http://www.quadratec.com/products/16300_400.htm
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like i said the only difference in BB's are the shocks. the pucks are the same. just make sure you get a BB with good shocks.

that rubicon express lift is by far the most popular BB. i think khenderson runs that one. the shocks may still be a little rough but i from the way MR. CLIFFORD makes it sound then they would still be better than skyjacker.

i think those are the twin tube shocks though. im pretty sure they are pretty rough. the monotubes are OK though
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What about rough country 4" or 6" suspension lifts? I've had my eye on those for a while..

from what i've heard they are bad because its quite a lot of force on short arms.. is there another kit out there with long arms around 1000usd?
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6" on short arms isn't a good idea. the 4" is good. i don't know of a long arm for that cheap ($1000)
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what is the cheapest long arm kit that any 1 knows of? i've also heard people putting spacers in on a 6" kit so it lowers the bolt on point of the short control arms.
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what is the cheapest long arm kit that any 1 knows of? i've also heard people putting spacers in on a 6" kit so it lowers the bolt on point of the short control arms.
just search and you'll find some.

off the top of my head Rock Krawler is by far the cheapest that i know of. but jeepcrawler on here also got a teraflex longarm for a reasonable price.
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i've been searching since i've posted all i've found is those "longer" control arms from quadratec.. http://www.quadratec.com/products/56015_502.htm
just took a look at rock krawlers website and they sell the long arm 4" kits for +2400 what price did you find them for?
I'm searching but i'm still new to lift kits so i dont know exactly what i need.
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rock krawler sells a 4" long arm kit for under 2K. it was listed a little under $1900

by the way, i meant searh for long arm lifts not control arms. the longer arms will come with the lift.
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Which OME kit?

This will give you an idea of some of the options you can get with a 2.5" OME kit:

http://www.redrock4x4.com/shop/products/1559.html
By the way, Scout, I meant to post this yesterday but got distracted. The list on the page you posted is exactly what I'm concerned about. I have little to no idea what most of that is, so it's difficult to choose. The fact that I keep seeing lists like that is part of what's keeping me from ordering the lift.
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By the way, Scout, I meant to post this yesterday but got distracted. The list on the page you posted is exactly what I'm concerned about. I have little to no idea what most of that is, so it's difficult to choose. The fact that I keep seeing lists like that is part of what's keeping me from ordering the lift.
We get calls every day from folks who have been "researching" their suspension on-line.
More often than not, they are more confused now than when they started!
I'd pick a dealer that is reputable, carries multiple brands of better suspension products and who is an avid off-roader that has installed a LOT of different suspension systems over a long period of time.
These people will have experience with many different products, and will know better what works and what doesn't. They can help you if you call.
Many of the opinions you get from individuals are based on their experience with their own jeep and whatever one kit they have.
That's why you'll hear one guy say brand X shocks ride good, and the next guy says they ride like poo.
There are only a FEW individuals out there who have been involved with installing, wheeling, tweaking and tuning many different suspension brands & systems over the long haul.
If you can find one of these guys, their advice is worth considering, as they will simply have experience that a lot of guys don't have.
I wish I had a dollar for every time someone called us to tweak or replace a lift kit they bought previously and have had major problems with it. Some of these jeeps are very scary and unsafe. They usually say: "Well, my brother-in-law recommended that kit" or, "Well, the price was right"...
Get good advice and stay away from the "cheap" kits out there, and you'll have a jeep that rides and drives like it should.
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By the way, Scout, I meant to post this yesterday but got distracted. The list on the page you posted is exactly what I'm concerned about. I have little to no idea what most of that is, so it's difficult to choose. The fact that I keep seeing lists like that is part of what's keeping me from ordering the lift.

^^^ There's your answer ^^^

I'd call Dirk. He knows his stuff.
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By the way, Scout, I meant to post this yesterday but got distracted. The list on the page you posted is exactly what I'm concerned about. I have little to no idea what most of that is, so it's difficult to choose. The fact that I keep seeing lists like that is part of what's keeping me from ordering the lift.
what do you mean "lists like this"? it has everything you need. OME is very reputable.

tiny i know you want a mild lift that isn't to high. i would recommend a BB. it is very simple and it won't get you so high to where you have to worry about other stuff like control arms, track bars, driveline angles and etc.
the BB is a very simple lift. it comes with spacers and sometimes bumpstop extensions, and shocks. thats it. the only other thing you may need is a t case drop if you experience vibes (which you probably won't.) and if you want a really good ride then buy the spacers seperate and then pick out the shocks you want.
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Re 4.5 short arm 2" spacer up front. 35x12.50's on 15x10 rims. Optional dirt.

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Re 4.5 short arm 2" spacer up front. 35x12.50's on 15x10 rims. Optional dirt.

I can;t believe you haven't fixed that windshied decal yet. I know it's been about two years since I first saw it that way.
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I can;t believe you haven't fixed that windshied decal yet. I know it's been about two years since I first saw it that way.

yeap still have not gotten around to that..lol and considering your almost right on how old that pic is... i really should.. Heck i am trying to figure out where to put my WF sticker... perhaps another 2 year and I will have them both taken care of...lol
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More often than not, they are more confused now than when they started!
Yup. I'm at a loss. But I've not only been researching online. I've read a couple of manuals and spent some time on the garage floor staring up into the belly of my beastie. It's not helping. I'm pretty sure I can get it apart fine, putting it back together so that it's not a death trap is the tricky part.
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Yup. I'm at a loss. But I've not only been researching online. I've read a couple of manuals and spent some time on the garage floor staring up into the belly of my beastie. It's not helping. I'm pretty sure I can get it apart fine, putting it back together so that it's not a death trap is the tricky part.

tiny, when you're ready to do your lift give Dirk a call. These guys know their stuff and can answer all your questions. Not only that, they sell some of the best components on the market today. Especially if you're wanting to stay with a short arm lift.

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