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Old 12-07-2008, 09:45 PM   #1
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2 DIN (Alpine) head unit, anyone?

hi everyone!

as you can see, i'm a complete newbie in here, and i was hoping some of you long-time TJ experts out there could give me your opinion on the following.

i'd really like to put one of these 2-DIN alpine W505R multimedia stations (with the blackbird GPS) into my 06 Sahara. (i think) i've done all the market research, and i really believe alpine is the way to go, and the screen resolution as well as some other features are just so much better in this 2-DIN thing than in the only single-DIN fold-out display unit (D106R) they still have on offer. i also didn't find any other brand's single-DIN fold out display product that convinced me from a display and sound output point of view (any ideas?).

now, i am obviously aware of the fact that TJ's only have a 1,5 DIN stereo slot. this is a very bad thing.

do you think there is any way to "make room" for 2 DIN in there? i know this would involve some serious adjustments to the inner as well as outer structure of the console, but i do have this great professional car electronics guy here in switzerland (which is where i live and drive my jeep). he would help me out with the tricky parts and i'm sure he'd do a good job. it's just that he's never done anything like this before and isn't really sure about how much the center consoles of a wrangler can be, uhh, messed with.

any input is appreciated! maybe this is a foolish idea, but i'm here to learn! thanks in advance!

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from the way the dash is shaped, i dont know what you could do to make it look nice, i mean i have the feeling you are out of luck. you could try cutting around w/ a dremel it but it wont look good w/ out custom work.. fiberglass dash would be sweet.


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I never put it in my TJ, but I have an Alpine 2Din multimedia unit that was given to me by a dealer I do some work for. Mine was not the newest model, but it had all the newer bells and whistles, including the touch feedback on the screen. I put it in my GFs Escort for a few months. She ended up putting a cheap sony in because she was afraid someone would break into her escort. The Alpine was a SUPER nice unit, I would recommend it all day long. I would just be really careful with theives.
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I just bought a Pioneer double din in dash navigation receiver for my TJ, I knew it wasn't going to fit without modification and I've ordered a few brackets that I think might work.

I mocked up the receiver last night in the driveway to see what needed to be cut out of the dash. I took some pics of the before and I plan on posting a new thread later today and taking pictures every step of the way.

I've called around locally to see how much to fiberglass the dash and there all saying around $400, I think that's a little much for how little work it will be after I already have it installed.

If I don't find anyone cheaper or find another clean option in the mean time then I will probably try to do it myself, I've been wanting to learn how to work with fiberglass anyway. I've read a lot of DIY fiberglass how to's and it doesn't look very hard to do, I think it's just going to be one of those "it takes practice" kinda things.

I will have the receiver working in my TJ this weekend, I'm not saying the install will be finished or pretty, but it will be working.
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If I don't find anyone cheaper or find another clean option in the mean time then I will probably try to do it myself, I've been wanting to learn how to work with fiberglass anyway. I've read a lot of DIY fiberglass how to's and it doesn't look very hard to do, I think it's just going to be one of those "it takes practice" kinda things.

I will have the receiver working in my TJ this weekend, I'm not saying the install will be finished or pretty, but it will be working.
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Good luck emev0l.
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I just bought a Pioneer double din in dash navigation receiver for my TJ, I knew it wasn't going to fit without modification and I've ordered a few brackets that I think might work.

I mocked up the receiver last night in the driveway to see what needed to be cut out of the dash. I took some pics of the before and I plan on posting a new thread later today and taking pictures every step of the way.

I've called around locally to see how much to fiberglass the dash and there all saying around $400, I think that's a little much for how little work it will be after I already have it installed.

If I don't find anyone cheaper or find another clean option in the mean time then I will probably try to do it myself, I've been wanting to learn how to work with fiberglass anyway. I've read a lot of DIY fiberglass how to's and it doesn't look very hard to do, I think it's just going to be one of those "it takes practice" kinda things.

I will have the receiver working in my TJ this weekend, I'm not saying the install will be finished or pretty, but it will be working.
wow, you sound very determined, i like that, haha!!

unfortunately, i'm a very unexperienced "modifier" myself, so forgive me if i ask some stupid questions, but do you already have an idea about what to do with the vents? block them, like some guy did in that linked forum thread above (thanks triple88a!)? and, judging from the pictures you already posted, do you think the internal console construction (that is metal, right?) is going to be sufficiently adjustable to fit in the double DIN without taking some (too) serious damage? damn i wish i knew more about this stuff...

my tech guy will have a look at my jeep tomorrow and see what he can do, but i'm not very optimistic. i'm afraid these swiss people just lack this kind of determined creativity...

and as for making it look pretty, what exactly does "fiberglass" mean? is this adjusting your old console to fit the screen nicely or shaping an entirely new one like in the pic posted by triple88a? and again, what about the vents?

wow, i really can't wait for you to start your project...
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wow, you sound very determined, i like that, haha!!

unfortunately, i'm a very unexperienced "modifier" myself, so forgive me if i ask some stupid questions, but do you already have an idea about what to do with the vents? block them, like some guy did in that linked forum thread above (thanks triple88a!)? and, judging from the pictures you already posted, do you think the internal console construction (that is metal, right?) is going to be sufficiently adjustable to fit in the double DIN without taking some (too) serious damage? damn i wish i knew more about this stuff...

my tech guy will have a look at my jeep tomorrow and see what he can do, but i'm not very optimistic. i'm afraid these swiss people just lack this kind of determined creativity...

and as for making it look pretty, what exactly does "fiberglass" mean? is this adjusting your old console to fit the screen nicely or shaping an entirely new one like in the pic posted by triple88a? and again, what about the vents?

wow, i really can't wait for you to start your project...
I promise I will take a buttload of pics and take a lot of measurements of everything I cut out of the dash.

If you could post anymore questions or comments in the thread I created I'll make sure to keep up with them all. I'd like to abandon this one to keep all of the info together so when anyone else comes along they don't have to search threw a couple threads.

So please ask any questions in that thread and don't ever think any question is a stupid one, it's the only way your going to learn.

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most likely talking about fiberglass resign. Its actualy pretty simple to do.
And if you take enough time you can make it look like it was an original part.
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fiberglass is a stringy sticky material.. it looks like very tiny sharp itchy bendable needles glued together. Its pretty strong so.. but basically you glue it on there, eventually it sets, then you put plaster on top of it and then sand it. This is the best way to get a good finish out of it.

Here is what i would do, you take the stock dash and cut it and extend it. You will have to move the vents up a tiny bit but that will be easier then remaking everything all over.

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That is a pretty good idea but I think you are forgetting that the two main bolts that hold the bezel are then going to have to be modified as well to get any support.I say measure first then if it is really close and it will be do this.Yeah I used your pic Trip. Cut just the least that you have to like here.
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the 2 things that hold it together are located in the lower 2 corners of the cd player. The 2 bolts on top of the dash can be modified a bit to be moved up.

(btw Sherman thats a random pic i found on yahoo )
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Yeah I kind of figured it was
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the 2 things that hold it together are located in the lower 2 corners of the cd player. The 2 bolts on top of the dash can be modified a bit to be moved up.

(btw Sherman thats a random pic i found on yahoo )

One is in the lower left corner one is in the upper right corner.

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what is the size double din you pun in was it the 7' screen? and i have a 98 wrangler i want to do this too. do you think it would work? the dash look the same. im just worried about the space up and down.
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good job at finding one heck of an old thread. to answer your question i would say to go in crutchfield and you can enter your vehicle and they will tell you what fits.

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