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Old 10-24-2012, 02:47 PM   #61
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I too am a moron and was using the wrong button. That said, now that I use the correct process, I am getting a message that says "Please attach USB mass storage device with update file to system connector and try again." Weird thing is that the file is indeed on the thumb drive. I tried both the radio USB and the one in the arm rest but no luck (same response).

My current app version is 23.04.41 / Audio CPU 021511. RHB Unit on 2011 Sahara JKU.

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Ok, 2 updates. First, I found out I had a bad flash drive and/or mem card so tried another one and it updated after about 12 mins. Second, I do not see anything diff in my version numbers. Still the same as above.

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If you have not had the TSB performed by the dealer, Then you will be applying it yourself using the instructions that I listed in step #1 of post #50. This will do the SW update that the TSB would do. It has to be done first, then do the SW update that is listed in post #41.
Your radio is a High Speed CAN BUS radio.
Hope this helps you out. Let me know if you have any other questions and I'll do my best to help.




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Thanks xsdbs for your reply. On your post 41 you mentioned that TSB has to be applied before going to this and my radio does not have TSB applied. Even without TSB applied, Can I proceed as you explained below (in the quote) below step 1 and then step 2?

This is just to confirm before making the steps (i do not want to screw it up)

An the other question if is there is a way to know if my radio is a Low Speed or High Speed bus (there are two files for step 2)

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Old 10-25-2012, 08:50 AM   #63
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Hey!!!! What do ya mean by my "Dumb instructions"???




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. Almost came back whining to xsdbs about his dumb instructions, too.
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The "Initalizg pop up" is a normal thing now. It's there to let people know thatthe phone is still in the "connecting" mode. Some people expect to be able to immediately start the streaming audio after turning the key on. But there are several items of communication between the phone and Uconnect at start up before the streaming audio can start.

I also noticed that on the GIII that you have to start the media player manually. This is the phone and not Uconnect. I also noticed that it is 100% of the time. There were times that the media player would start as expected.
There will always be differences between phones and how they act.
Uconnect send out a command and it's then up to the phone to react to the command.




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By they way, xsdbs, the startup for the radio is slightly different after applying the previous TSB (not installed the new one yet). I get an "initializing" pop up now that I didn't see before. Everything seems to work fine, except for some differences between my Evo and new SIII, so was curious if this screen was to be expected.

*In case you were curious, I used to be able to start BT playback via the radio controls with my Evo and now I have the start it on my SIII first before the radio controls do anything. Not a big deal but inconvenient having to take my phone out to play stuff. Am dealing.
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I was going to suggest to try a different thumb drive, but I see that you already did.



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I too am a moron and was using the wrong button. That said, now that I use the correct process, I am getting a message that says "Please attach USB mass storage device with update file to system connector and try again." Weird thing is that the file is indeed on the thumb drive. I tried both the radio USB and the one in the arm rest but no luck (same response).

My current app version is 23.04.41 / Audio CPU 021511. RHB Unit on 2011 Sahara JKU.

Thoughts?
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I'm glad that you tried another thumb drive. I have seen this type of problem with some others and their thumb drives.
Now! in post #50, I mentioned that we are not changing the radio SW or the radios SW version. SO, you will continue to see that SW version untill you do a radio update. I think that there has been an update CD sent to Chrysler for the radio. I seem to remember that it brought the radio up to like a 33.x.x level.


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Ok, 2 updates. First, I found out I had a bad flash drive and/or mem card so tried another one and it updated after about 12 mins. Second, I do not see anything diff in my version numbers. Still the same as above.

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Old 10-26-2012, 06:38 AM   #67
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xsdbs, thank you for your effort again!

Do you think that this update will also work on a RB2 radio?


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The "Initalizg pop up" is a normal thing now. It's there to let people know thatthe phone is still in the "connecting" mode. Some people expect to be able to immediately start the streaming audio after turning the key on. But there are several items of communication between the phone and Uconnect at start up before the streaming audio can start.
Haven't tested but this screen only pops up if a phone is connecting? If so, would have been nice to have it say Connecting phone or something. Meh. Whatever.

Not too worried about the S3. Inconvenient but still works.
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Sorry, I was away for a weekend get away with my wife.
The RB2 is a non NAFTA radio so it has a different SW version #. This update is for North American Uconnect systems. There is another file for the non NAFTA Uconnect. I'll see if I can get that file for you.




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xsdbs, thank you for your effort again!

Do you think that this update will also work on a RB2 radio?


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Do you know the build date of your vehicle? There should be a white sticker on the drivers door. Look for coode "MHD".




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The RB2 is a non NAFTA radio so it has a different SW version #. This update is for North American Uconnect systems. There is another file for the non NAFTA Uconnect. I'll see if I can get that file for you.
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xsdbs, the code is 081816.

Thank you in advance.
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Great, thanks. I waiting for a reply to an email that I just sent out. I'll let you know what I find out, ok.



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xsdbs, the code is 081816.

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I am sure I am doing something wrong here... I have a 2011, door sticker says manufacture date 6/11 and MDH 061011. I am assuming the file from post 41 is all I need to install... When I try, I get "the used upgrade archive is not compatible with this unit" message. I have factory installed uconnect with USB in the center console and the radio says RES (has voice control and uconnect on the radio and steering wheel. No TSBs have ever been done, but from my build date, looks like I don't need to???

I would love to get half decent sound quality out of Bluetooth. Not expecting much, but the way it sounds now is unusable..

Anything I can try? Thanks, Nick
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Hello Nick,
You have the V2 2011 Uconnect system and it also has the V1 2012 SW in it. You can do the update that I have posted in the link below: read the 1st post of the thread for the notes of differences that you will see. (then if you're good with it, then see post #14 for the file). The one that most people don't like is "resume play" will not be supported after the update. Meaning that if you were playing an iPod or USB drive when you turned the key off, when you come back to the vehicle, the system will be at the last media source that you were at prior to starting to play the iPod or USB. I personally don't think is't a big deal to press a button to start play but some rage about it. Chrysler has a reason for this and if you'd like to know the reason, then here it is:

The issue was that in vehicles with factory remote start systems. When the vehicle was remote started, Uconnect is not powered up yet. This is because if the vehicle is within the BT range (about 30 - 35 feet) and you tried to use your phone or had an incoming call, you wouldn't be able to talk to the other person because Uconnect would be active and your call would be active in the vehicle.
Ok, so now that we understand the "why it's not powered up" question, lets explain the real issue:
When you get into the vehicle after remote starting it, turn the ignition on, Uconnect now will power up and you will hear a "pop" thru the car speakers. The reason for the "pop" is because the radio would be in an AUX mode with no audio input signal until Uconnect powered up, read the USB or iPod to make sure that there hasn't been any changes made (after the key is turned off, Uconnect doesn't know if the device has been removed or not) and that all data is still correct, then start to play. So while there would be a short period of reading, Uconnect powers up and then the "pop".
There were a lot of people thinking something was wrong and would go tto the dealer for repairs. This caused a stir in warranty so Chrysler decided to not have resume play but to go back to the last media used prior to using an iPod or USB. Then manually start the device play.
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I am sure I am doing something wrong here... I have a 2011, door sticker says manufacture date 6/11 and MDH 061011. I am assuming the file from post 41 is all I need to install... When I try, I get "the used upgrade archive is not compatible with this unit" message. I have factory installed uconnect with USB in the center console and the radio says RES (has voice control and uconnect on the radio and steering wheel. No TSBs have ever been done, but from my build date, looks like I don't need to???

I would love to get half decent sound quality out of Bluetooth. Not expecting much, but the way it sounds now is unusable..

Anything I can try? Thanks, Nick
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so Chrysler decided to not have resume play but to go back to the last media used prior to using an iPod or USB. Then manually start the device play.
Hope this helps.

But in my 2013, the radio will return to FM, even if I was listening to SAT before uconnect.
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xsdbs, thank you!

I didnt see a link in your message, but assumed you are talking about this thread 2012 streaming audio quality info
Updated with that file, took 20+ minutes, but it worked. It sounds so much better. What a difference, it is actually usable now!

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But in my 2013, the radio will return to FM, even if I was listening to SAT before uconnect.
Just updated my 2011 and it does the same. Keeps going to the radio, not to the last source.
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I will look into this. It's possible that I was told incorrectly. I mostly play media off my iPod / iPhone.




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Just updated my 2011 and it does the same. Keeps going to the radio, not to the last source.
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Any update? I met with the uconnect rep from Chrysler at CES last week. He said it should go back to last input. He's gonna give me a call this week (hopefully). I'll post my findings.
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What was the persons name that you spoke to @ CES? Did you get any contact information for him (her)? If so would you mind PMing it to me? I know a person there and another one is always helpful. Are you in the aftermarket industry?
What I am seeing is that it will go to the last played radio band. It doesn't go back to CD or HDD but it does seem to default to FM if you were in one of these modes. With my 2012 Uconnect module, if I am on SAT radio prior to going into iPod play, then when I leave and come back to the vehicle, the radio resumes in SAT mode. I will see if I can borrow a 2013 module to see if there is a difference in them. However I believe that the strategy is supposed to be the same.



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What was the persons name that you spoke to @ CES? Did you get any contact information for him (her)? If so would you mind PMing it to me? I know a person there and another one is always helpful. Are you in the aftermarket industry?
What I am seeing is that it will go to the last played radio band. It doesn't go back to CD or HDD but it does seem to default to FM if you were in one of these modes. With my 2012 Uconnect module, if I am on SAT radio prior to going into iPod play, then when I leave and come back to the vehicle, the radio resumes in SAT mode. I will see if I can borrow a 2013 module to see if there is a difference in them. However I believe that the strategy is supposed to be the same.
No, I'm a CTO at a us fed government agency. I can share the info provided to me regarding the 2013 uconnect (RES). But, I'm not able to release the contact info. I hope you understand.

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Since you were listening to BTSA before you turned off the vehicle the radio recognizes this as the last mode you were in, not the SAT radio you were in previously. Mode resume is not supported for BTSA so the radio default behavior is to return to FM mode whenever last mode is not present.
However, if you turned the vehicle off while listening to SAT radio, the radio should resume in SAT mode when vehicle is restarted.
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Sure I understand, somewhat. As much help that I give out though it would be nice to have someone to check occasionally with especially seeing how the dealers have no real input on a lot of issues other than throwing parts into a vehicle only to find the same issue occurs.
This person was in the Chrysler booth correct?
Well what I found out yesterday is that this isn't a Uconnect related issue. Due to a "pop" that customers were having after remote starting a vehicle and getting into the vehicle and turning the key on. There were warranty claims on this issue. So the Uconnect module now doesn't resume play in BTSA or docking modes. Mitsubishi (builds the radio) has changed the "return to" default a couple of times. The radio SW decides on what to default back to. So it's possible that your 2013 vehicle may act differently than a 2012 vehicle. What is the radio SW version (application) in your radio?

For instance one of my radios has SW version 33.01.23 (just updated my 2012) and it returns to SAT radio.

I stopped by a dealer that let me try a 2013 vehicle that had 43.00.11 in it and it resumed play in the iPod mode. (only in the docking mode). The vehicle that I was using didn't have factory remote start so I'm not sure if Mitsubishi was able to do anything for the pop.






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First off, XSDBS, thanks for all of your hard work. This is fantastic stuff. You could probably host your own site with fixes and make a killing off of the ads. I would definitely support it.

Forgive me if this has been answered elsewhere and I missed it, still feeling the happy hour my bosses hosted last night. The text on the screen seems to be zooming in and out by itself.

How can I tell if the prerequisite TSB has been applied? Will it hurt to reapply? And will the steps and file in this post (#50) work through my 2011 Wrangler 430N RHB? (I realize that the update is for the UC module via the head unit).

Thanks again!

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Ok, let me explain something, ok. We are actually updating the SW that is in the Uconnect module. The RBZ radio has an external Uconnect module. So what you'll need to do is in this order:
1) Using the same instructions as posted in the above post #41, download the file in the link below and apply it.
uconnect.upd

2) Now using the instructions and the file that is posted in #41, perform this update.

The steps need to be done in this order, ok.
The radio can be updated using a CD that was sent out by Sirius last year. You might be able to call them and have one sent to you or call the dealer to see if they have any extras.
Let me know if you have any further questions and I'll try to help.
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Well thank you for your compliments. That is something that I have thought about in order to offer more help to people. Just really not sure how to go about it. Guess I need to dig a little deeper and think a little more. hmm,

Ok, on to your questions,

There are a couple ways to tell if the 1st update has been done or not:
1) If you have an iPod / iPhone, plug it into the remote mounted USB connector & docking cable. Does the radio display "reading" and then start to play? If so then it has been applied, if the iPod / iPhone doesn't start to play and the radio displays "error occurred" then it hasn't been applied.
2) Try streaming audio from your phone, does it play correctly or does it sound like the chipmunks? If it sounds fast and like the chipmunks, then it hasn't been applied. If you are streaming from an iPhone, the music will sound correct until you press the phone's home button that turns on the back lighting to see the "now playing" screen. If the update has not been applied, then the music will sound fast and like the chipmunks at this time and then correct when the lighting goes off.

If you try to apply this update without having the first one done, then this update won't see the supported SW versions and give you an error message that this update is not correct for your current SW.
So the 1st update needs to be done before applying this one.




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First off, XSDBS, thanks for all of your hard work. This is fantastic stuff. You could probably host your own site with fixes and make a killing off of the ads. I would definitely support it.

Forgive me if this has been answered elsewhere and I missed it, still feeling the happy hour my bosses hosted last night. The text on the screen seems to be zooming in and out by itself.

How can I tell if the prerequisite TSB has been applied? Will it hurt to reapply? And will the steps and file in this post (#50) work through my 2011 Wrangler 430N RHB? (I realize that the update is for the UC module via the head unit).

Thanks again!
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I am so giddy right now. Feels like christmas. The updates worked!Did both like you said. Each one was about 20 min. I'm a super geek, techie, web developer, programmer, audiophile, etc. So when I got my Jeep, I was ridiculously disappointed about the bluetooth connectivity and quality. No one at three dealerships in Northern VA was able to help. It has taken me since May 2011 to get to this point where I get the quality and experience I expect. So again, thank you SO MUCH for doing this. If you ever end up wanting to make a site, let me know and I'll be happy to help and return the favor.

So now, on my 430N RHB in my early 2011 Wrangler Unlimited...
  1. Bluetooth streaming works with high quality sound. Still not as great as a direct line but it's pretty darn close.
  2. iPhone works as an iPod, quickly. Although, USB connection only works through the armrest console and not the head unit.
  3. Can play Spotify and Pandora through iPod cable. Tricky though, have to pause the app, then hit play from the head unit screen. Great sound quality here. No need for using the AUX input now. Less visible cables. =) ANNNNNND, I can use my steering wheel buttons to control the apps' songs. So giddy right now.

Forgot to check how quickly it connects now. Like when getting turn-by-turn directions from a GPS app. Before the uconnect would connect halfway through the GPS' instructions.

Again, 100 x thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Well thank you for your compliments. That is something that I have thought about in order to offer more help to people. Just really not sure how to go about it. Guess I need to dig a little deeper and think a little more. hmm,

Ok, on to your questions,

There are a couple ways to tell if the 1st update has been done or not:
1) If you have an iPod / iPhone, plug it into the remote mounted USB connector & docking cable. Does the radio display "reading" and then start to play? If so then it has been applied, if the iPod / iPhone doesn't start to play and the radio displays "error occurred" then it hasn't been applied.
2) Try streaming audio from your phone, does it play correctly or does it sound like the chipmunks? If it sounds fast and like the chipmunks, then it hasn't been applied. If you are streaming from an iPhone, the music will sound correct until you press the phone's home button that turns on the back lighting to see the "now playing" screen. If the update has not been applied, then the music will sound fast and like the chipmunks at this time and then correct when the lighting goes off.

If you try to apply this update without having the first one done, then this update won't see the supported SW versions and give you an error message that this update is not correct for your current SW.
So the 1st update needs to be done before applying this one.
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WOW, you have been trying to get your system going since May '11!!! Well I am certainly glad that I was able to assist you in such a short time (that we have talked thru this forum anyway).
As for the having to pause between the app music, that's just an "APPLE" thing. They are the gateway and sends the audio to Uconnect. You may find it to act differently in streaming audio mode. Apple handles that differently than the docking mode.
I may want to get with you to see what is involved in setting up a simple site and also to see what you can tell me about getting some advertisers if I wanted to go that way. Could be interesting. If you have any information that I could read on the subject, then let me know and I'll PM you with my email address.
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I am so giddy right now. Feels like christmas. The updates worked!Did both like you said. Each one was about 20 min. I'm a super geek, techie, web developer, programmer, audiophile, etc. So when I got my Jeep, I was ridiculously disappointed about the bluetooth connectivity and quality. No one at three dealerships in Northern VA was able to help. It has taken me since May 2011 to get to this point where I get the quality and experience I expect. So again, thank you SO MUCH for doing this. If you ever end up wanting to make a site, let me know and I'll be happy to help and return the favor.

So now, on my 430N RHB in my early 2011 Wrangler Unlimited...
  1. Bluetooth streaming works with high quality sound. Still not as great as a direct line but it's pretty darn close.
  2. iPhone works as an iPod, quickly. Although, USB connection only works through the armrest console and not the head unit.
  3. Can play Spotify and Pandora through iPod cable. Tricky though, have to pause the app, then hit play from the head unit screen. Great sound quality here. No need for using the AUX input now. Less visible cables. =) ANNNNNND, I can use my steering wheel buttons to control the apps' songs. So giddy right now.

Forgot to check how quickly it connects now. Like when getting turn-by-turn directions from a GPS app. Before the uconnect would connect halfway through the GPS' instructions.

Again, 100 x thank you, thank you, thank you.
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Had to resurrect this thread..

xsdbs, I have a 2011 GC (build date 9/10) with an RHB receiver. I installed the first TSB that you posted on the other forum/thread. Went through the whole "beeping" procedure, did your whole restart format, repaired the phone and it was the exact same issue. I thought that was supposed to fix the poor audio quality streaming issue, but others were saying in this thread how this newer fix is actually what fixed the bit pool rates. I installed the Hi CAN software you provided in this thread, went through the whole beeping procedure and it seemed to take. I re paired the phone again to no avail. The streaming does the exact same thing as before, very low quality sound as others have described and it is still giving me the fast forward/choppiness issue.

Any ideas? I am still under CPO warranty on this thing but I would hate to waste $150 taking it to dealership for this issue. Let me know, thanks!!!!
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Had to resurrect this thread..

xsdbs, I have a 2011 GC (build date 9/10) with an RHB receiver. I installed the first TSB that you posted on the other forum/thread. Went through the whole "beeping" procedure, did your whole restart format, repaired the phone and it was the exact same issue. I thought that was supposed to fix the poor audio quality streaming issue, but others were saying in this thread how this newer fix is actually what fixed the bit pool rates. I installed the Hi CAN software you provided in this thread, went through the whole beeping procedure and it seemed to take. I re paired the phone again to no avail. The streaming does the exact same thing as before, very low quality sound as others have described and it is still giving me the fast forward/choppiness issue.

Any ideas? I am still under CPO warranty on this thing but I would hate to waste $150 taking it to dealership for this issue. Let me know, thanks!!!!
What phone and o/s of the phone?
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What phone and o/s of the phone?
Iphone 5 Version 6.1.4
Iphone 4 6.1.3

Both same issues.
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Iphone 5 Version 6.1.4 Iphone 4 6.1.3 Both same issues.
I have a 4 running 6.1.3 an no audio issues on my RBZ. By any chance, are either jail broken? I ask because some jail broken apps (like roqy BT) replace the Bluetooth stack.

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