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Old 05-30-2013, 02:05 PM   #1
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2013 JK New Audio Install...

I still can't believe I did this! I am truly proud of myself.

The audio store was going to charge me almost $400 for the 10" sub, and amp. After thinking about it, I decided that I was going to purchase the items needed, and install it myself. After it was all said and done, I spent about $685 and installed a new JVC head unit, a 10" Pioneer shallow mount sub, and a 400w amp, along with all the wiring harnesses and adapters etc. All in all, I saved nearly $500.

This is what I installed:

JVC KW-AV61BT, $285
Pioneer TS-WX251 10" downfire sub, $129
Pioneer GM-3500T 400w amp, $79
Sirius SVX200v1 tuner, $46
PAC RP4-CH11 wiring harness, $91
Boss 8g wiring kit, $11
Metra 40-EU10 FM antenna adapter, $10.68
Scosche CR129B dash kit, $9.98

All items were ordered from Amazon.com

I wanted something discreet, and the Pioneer sub fit the bill. With the back seat in you can barely see it, but when its on you can certainly hear it. I wouldn't recommend it for competition obviously, but for a nice rounded out deep and rich sound, its perfect. The amp is under the front seat, and I'll have to figure out some way to attach it, because right now its just under there.

I ran the power wire and the ground wire through the fire wall on the passenger side, and everything is connected to the battery. The remote switch for the amp is wired directly to the HU.

All of my SWC's work with the RP4 adapter after programming it, and the retained accessory power works as well.

OMG this system completely and totally blows the factory crap to pieces!!! It is SOOOO loud! And I haven't even upgraded the factory 6.5's yet, thats coming next month. I seriously cannot believe how good this sounds!!!

I've got a few things left to do, like secure the amp, and hide the rest of the speaker wire in the back, but man.... I still can't believe its in there, and every single piece of it is working in proper order. AND I DID IT MYSELF!!!!












Here is a short video, but I doubt you can tell what the audio quality is like. Man it sounds so good!!


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And I have to give A LOT of thanks, and credit to WF member woansleftpeg. He answered I know no less than 50 PM's from me through the process! I truly couldn't have done it without his knowledge!

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Looks like a nice clean install! Arent you worried about rain getting on the amp if you get caught topless?
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You're very welcome. We should make it very clear that the music choice in the video was absolutely nothing to do with me and had I known that was what you were going to do with it, I might not have been so happy to assist.

In all seriousness, while the safest ground connection is always back to the battery negative terminal that's quite a long distance - your ground wire should ideally be no more than about 18" long. You would have been better off grounding it to the tub or even better, to the frame somewhere.
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Looks like a nice clean install! Arent you worried about rain getting on the amp if you get caught topless?
I always have my soft to on with windows in the back. Me and getting caught in the rain will probably never happen.
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Old 05-30-2013, 02:43 PM   #6
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You're very welcome. We should make it very clear that the music choice in the video was absolutely nothing to do with me and had I known that was what you were going to do with it, I might not have been so happy to assist.

In all seriousness, while the safest ground connection is always back to the battery negative terminal that's quite a long distance - your ground wire should ideally be no more than about 18" long. You would have been better off grounding it to the tub or even better, to the frame somewhere.

The negative terminal was the only thing I was certain of. And I wasn't in the mood to remove carpet and seats after everything I did. Once I settle in to this for a little while, I'll revisit it and tweak it for perfection.

It's less than 7' from the amp to the battery through the firewall.
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Oh and my music library ranges from Bach, to AC/DC. LOL.
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Nice work. I know you will go back and clean up those wires, right?

Right under the seat (on either side I believe) is a nice anchor point for your ground. I think there is a painted nut holding in a grounded item from under the console that could work for your ground. I know there is one under the drivers seat. You could also use a bolt behind the seatbelt anchor mechanism under the pastic cover. That worked for my home made alarm ground.

I originally was going to mount my amp in the same spot but with the heated seats wiring and the bracket there, I opted to mount in the rear on the drivers side plastic panel. In the end it workd out as the amp is tucked under the Tuffy Security enclosure.
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Nice work. I know you will go back and clean up those wires, right?

Right under the seat (on either side I believe) is a nice anchor point for your ground. I think there is a painted nut holding in a grounded item from under the console that could work for your ground. I know there is one under the drivers seat. You could also use a bolt behind the seatbelt anchor mechanism under the pastic cover. That worked for my home made alarm ground.
There's one on each side, I used the passenger side one for my amp. Just needs a 10mm spanner to remove it.
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Those wires are about as clean as they are going to get. I left the excess in tact in case I ever want to relocate it to the back.

The speaker wire in the back will end up under the plastic panel, but I need to get a torx screwdriver before I can take it off.

Woans, would you mind posting a pic of the screw/bolt you're referring too?
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Those wires are about as clean as they are going to get. I left the excess in tact in case I ever want to relocate it to the back.

The speaker wire in the back will end up under the plastic panel, but I need to get a torx screwdriver before I can take it off.

Woans, would you mind posting a pic of the screw/bolt you're referring too?
I'll get it over the weekend some time, jeepedjeep's bracket and my Bestop underseat box got delivered today so I'm going to have the seats out this weekend. I'll try and remember to get a photo.
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I'll get it over the weekend some time, jeepedjeep's bracket and my Bestop underseat box got delivered today so I'm going to have the seats out this weekend. I'll try and remember to get a photo.

Is that the bracket to mount the amp under the passenger seat?

I think I saw that one, and its where I got the idea for the aluminum brackets that we talked about via pm.
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Is that the bracket to mount the amp under the passenger seat?

I think I saw that one, and its where I got the idea for the aluminum brackets that we talked about via pm.
Correct. I'll take pictures of my install and let you know how it works, but I'm optimistic that it's going to complete my install beautifully. (Complete it? Who am I kidding?)
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As promised. What you're looking at is the seat mounting frame closest to the centre console on the passenger side. The brown cable is the ground for my amp. I had a quick feel on the other side and there seems to be one on the driver's side as well in the same place.



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Is that a bolt/screw thats already there, or did you put a hole in your tub?
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It's a factory grounding post, there's already another wire grounded there. There's a nut holding it on - remove it with a 10mm socket or wrench, put the ring connector on your amp ground over the post, re-install the nut. My ground cable is about six inches long and connected to as reliable a grounding point as you'll find.
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Sweet!!

I assume I'll have to pull the carpet back, but does it require full seat removal?
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You'll have to contort yourself a little, but I don't think you'll need to remove the seat.
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LOL! Cause I'm ALL kinds of good at THAT!!
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Your amp's set a long way back, so it shouldn't be too bad. By the way, how did you fix your amp to the floor?
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Just an idea for a mount bracket for the amp. you could do a bar, like flat metal, that goes across and bolts under the 2 front seat bolts. if you put a bend in it
something like this _____|------|_____ it will elevate it off the floor in the event water does get in there. Then just put some spacers under the rear seat bolts to level it back out.
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Your amp's set a long way back, so it shouldn't be too bad. By the way, how did you fix your amp to the floor?


I didn't... its just laying there at the present moment.

I was looking into the under seat bracket, but jeepedjeep said that it wont fit a 2dr and no one has tried installing it yet.
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Just an idea for a mount bracket for the amp. you could do a bar, like flat metal, that goes across and bolts under the 2 front seat bolts. if you put a bend in it
something like this _____|------|_____ it will elevate it off the floor in the event water does get in there. Then just put some spacers under the rear seat bolts to level it back out.
Or you could just buy a custom made aluminium bracket from forum member jeepedjeep, like this;

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Just an idea for a mount bracket for the amp. you could do a bar, like flat metal, that goes across and bolts under the 2 front seat bolts. if you put a bend in it
something like this _____|------|_____ it will elevate it off the floor in the event water does get in there. Then just put some spacers under the rear seat bolts to level it back out.


I was thinking about something along these lines the other day. A flat aluminum bar shaped in a square "U" with either side bolted to the frame and the amp bolted to the bars.
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I didn't... its just laying there at the present moment.

I was looking into the under seat bracket, but jeepedjeep said that it wont fit a 2dr and no one has tried installing it yet.
You really should secure it, it's an expensive thing to have sliding around and it's far easier to steal if it's loose. The easiest way is to pull up the carpet (which is incredibly easy) and put a piece of half inch ply underneath, then put the carpet back down and screw the amp to the ply through the carpet. It won't stop a determined thief but it will deter a lazy opportunist, and it will prevent your amp from sliding in the event of a hard manoeuvre.
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You really should secure it, it's an expensive thing to have sliding around and it's far easier to steal if it's loose.

I've had every intention of securing it, and the sub.... I just have to figure out the best way to do so.

I'm not not so keen on drilling holes in the tub, but I might try and figure out some kind of bracket.

The sub I'm still thinking on. I can attach it to the tie downs on the passenger side with "L" brackets, but that takes away the ease of removal. I've thought about mounting it to the rear gate with L brackets, but we nixed that because of the constant opening/closing of the gate. So I dont know what I'm going to do just yet.
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I've had every intention of securing it, and the sub.... I just have to figure out the best way to do so.

I'm not not so keen on drilling holes in the tub, but I might try and figure out some kind of bracket.
Hence why you put half inch ply under the carpet, that way you don't have to screw into the tub. You're just screwing into the ply with the carpet sandwiched in between.
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Hence why you put half inch ply under the carpet, that way you don't have to screw into the tub. You're just screwing into the ply with the carpet sandwiched in between.


My other thought was to move the amp to the back and bolt it to the inside of the plastic well. I just wonder how hot it would get in there.
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I was thinking about something along these lines the other day. A flat aluminum bar shaped in a square "U" with either side bolted to the frame and the amp bolted to the bars.

Fairly simple design, and if it's bolted under the seat that thing ain't moving.

The wood block idea is pretty simple too, and you wouldn't have to mess with taking the seat bolts out.
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I've had every intention of securing it, and the sub.... I just have to figure out the best way to do so.

I'm not not so keen on drilling holes in the tub, but I might try and figure out some kind of bracket.

The sub I'm still thinking on. I can attach it to the tie downs on the passenger side with "L" brackets, but that takes away the ease of removal. I've thought about mounting it to the rear gate with L brackets, but we nixed that because of the constant opening/closing of the gate. So I dont know what I'm going to do just yet.

There's always bungee cords if you want easy removal. But then again it's also easily removed by a theif too.

most of my ideas for this involve drilling unfortunately. but maybe some kind of channel iron that you can slide the edge of that box into. the drill a hole in the side of the channel iron and put a pad lock through it. Box won't slide past it. you would need bolt cutters or the key to get it out.

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