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Old 12-02-2013, 08:59 AM   #1
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2014 JKUR X Audio Rip-out & Custom Build Thread

While I wait for my new JKURX to arrive I'm shopping for a planned upgrade of the audio system. I ordered it with as basic of audio as I could, which means I'm getting the 130 "premium" alpine system with sub and tweeters. When I ordered it I intended to put in at least an aftermarket head unit and a backup camera, and I'm an iPhone user, so integration with that is key. I'll likely do this in a few phases starting with the head unit & camera system, then amps & speakers and finally under seat subs.

After doing some research and seeking to take advantage of some black friday/cyber monday deals I've settled on the Pioneer AVH-X8500BHS Double-DIN Multimedia DVD Receiver With Bluetooth And HD Radio for $499 from Sonic Electronix. I had also looked at the Pioneer AppRadio 3, a few Kenwood Excelon units with GPS and an Alpine system with "mirror view" - but price, features and reviews on the 8500 narrowed it down easily, with one of them being a removable face for security purposes, better preamp outputs and faster processing speed on the interface. Pioneer also seems to be serious about the integration of mobile devices and iOS into head units, but only the market will tell if they are successful (or interested) in putting iOS into the car.

Along with the head unit I'm going to get:
PAC RP4-CH11 Factory Integration Adapter
Metra 40-EU10 Antenna Adapter
Metra 95-6511 In-dash Receiver Kit

I'm also still doing some research to find out exactly what adapter cables I need to get USB ports where I want them (i want to maintain at least 1 connection in the center console), and what I need to do to get both a lightning connected iPhone 5 and a iPhone 4 to connect with the head unit. It seems that the Pioneer provided cable packs are overkill and include stuff you don't need.

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You can always get those cables where you want them. Sometimes, it's just a matter of creativity. I have a console USB in my radio, but I didn't like the wires hanging all over my console. I also didn't like blocking my vents with cell phone holders. I didn't want to reach all the way across my dash to change tunes on my cell phone, or change apps while I was driving, or even stopped at a light signal. The phone holders in my cigarette lighter were destroying it, so I created my own phone mod to solve all of these problems. It's real clean and sturdy. Maybe this will give you some ideas.
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While I wait for my new JKURX to arrive I'm shopping for a planned upgrade of the audio system. I ordered it with as basic of audio as I could, which means I'm getting the 130 "premium" alpine system with sub and tweeters. When I ordered it I intended to put in at least an aftermarket head unit and a backup camera, and I'm an iPhone user, so integration with that is key. I'll likely do this in a few phases starting with the head unit & camera system, then amps & speakers and finally under seat subs. After doing some research and seeking to take advantage of some black friday/cyber monday deals I've settled on the Pioneer AVH-X8500BHS Double-DIN Multimedia DVD Receiver With Bluetooth And HD Radio for $499 from Sonic Electronix. I had also looked at the Pioneer AppRadio 3, a few Kenwood Excelon units with GPS and an Alpine system with "mirror view" - but price, features and reviews on the 8500 narrowed it down easily, with one of them being a removable face for security purposes, better preamp outputs and faster processing speed on the interface. Pioneer also seems to be serious about the integration of mobile devices and iOS into head units, but only the market will tell if they are successful (or interested) in putting iOS into the car. Along with the head unit I'm going to get: PAC RP4-CH11 Factory Integration Adapter Metra 40-EU10 Antenna Adapter Metra 95-6511 In-dash Receiver Kit I'm also still doing some research to find out exactly what adapter cables I need to get USB ports where I want them (i want to maintain at least 1 connection in the center console), and what I need to do to get both a lightning connected iPhone 5 and a iPhone 4 to connect with the head unit. It seems that the Pioneer provided cable packs are overkill and include stuff you don't need.
Please update once installed. I'm looking at a new iphone friendly head unit.
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Please do update. I just ordered a 2014 JKU and am gonna be doing the same
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I will... As soon as I receive one last accessory... My Jeep!! I am still in the D1 build stage and anxiously await it's arrival. I have had plenty of time to put together my shopping list for accessories, so I can post that tomorrow from my computer.

One feature I've been able to play with in the meantime is the MIXTRAX app. There is a free version for iphone you can try out. The head unit does it for you, but the app on its own is pretty cool. It mixes parts of your song library together based on genre and the BPM of your songs.
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Here is my current wishlist on Amazon, probably going to pull the trigger on many of these items, since there are some really good prices right now. Also, in addition to the head unit going to be installing a Cobra 75wx CB and some front & rear parking sensors..
  • PAC RP4-CH11 Radiopro4 Stereo Replacement Interface for Select Chrysler, Mitsubishi, Volkswagen Vehicles
  • Metra 40-EU10 VW /BMW/Euro Car to Male Motorola Vehicle Antenna Adapter
  • Metra 95-6511 Chrysler/Jeep DDIN 2007 Dash Kit
  • Parking Brake Override Bypass Fully Automatic Video in Motion for Pioneer Models AVH-X1500DVD AVH-X2500BT AVH-X3500BHS AVH-X4500BT AVH-X5500BHS
  • AntennaX The Shorty (5-inch) Antenna for Jeep Wrangler JK
  • 18' RG-58A/U Coaxial Cable With Pl-259 Connectors
    or
  • Wilson 18-ft. Belden Coaxial Cable PL-259 to FME - this one is more expensive, but looks easier to install due to the removable plug.
  • Lightning Digital AV Adapter - to hook my iPhone up via HDMI.
  • XD-066 LED Display Car Reverse Backup Radar with 4 Parking Sensors - both front and back.
  • Abco Tech Universal Waterproof Car License Plate Rear View Video Backup Camera with 7 LED Night Vision (Color CMOS/ 135 Degree Viewing Angle/ Distance Scale Line) - both front and back.

Still need to figure out how I'm going to see front video. Ideally want it to come on automatically if I am going slower than say 5mph, but I think this will need to be a manual thing via the head unit.
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I got updates from my dealer and Jeep yesterday on my Rubicon build - it was definitely through the Paint stage yesterday, so anticipate delivery in a few weeks.

I went ahead and pulled the trigger on all the accessories. I got conflicting info on the Metra antenna adapter, so ordered a different one.
Car Radio Antenna Adapter Kit Chrysler, Dodge, Ford, and Jeep 2002 & Up (BAA20 21, 40-CR30)

I've also found a cool CB mount for my Cobra, the Cool Tech VersaMount.
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I got the JKURX with the 430 stereo ( everyone said they liked the nav better in it.. IT SUCKS ) but I added the http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...In-Motion.html to it. And it does what you wanted when I slow the front cam comes on and when I put on turn signals the left or right come on.. And of course reverse.. And you can control it manually on the steering wheel ( radio controls )..

Looks like your coming from a TJ too.. I Love the new JKURX But it feels like its 10 times the size of the TJ,, more like a BIG SUV.. Hopefully I get used to it soon, it doesn't feel as fun as the TJ.. I don't have the desire to drive off the road though a ditch like I do in the TJ..
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I got the JKURX with the 430 stereo ( everyone said they liked the nav better in it.. IT SUCKS ) but I added the http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...In-Motion.html to it. And it does what you wanted when I slow the front cam comes on and when I put on turn signals the left or right come on.. And of course reverse.. And you can control it manually on the steering wheel ( radio controls ).. Looks like your coming from a TJ too.. I Love the new JKURX But it feels like its 10 times the size of the TJ,, more like a BIG SUV.. Hopefully I get used to it soon, it doesn't feel as fun as the TJ.. I don't have the desire to drive off the road though a ditch like I do in the TJ..
I'm not directly coming from a TJ. I had a '98, but sold it in '07 when my wife was too pregnant to climb into it anymore at 8 months! That and the whole rear-seat-comes-out-and-the-baby-will-die-if-I-don't-get-a-safe-car-like-a-Lexus "argument" from her .

I'm coming from a '12 JKU with the 430N. At first I liked it, but then once I just started using gps apps on my phone, streaming Slacker/Pandora, I realized it wasn't worth it. And the sound quality... Even with the "premium" sound package... Blah. I was intrigued by the possibilities of the Lockpick like you highlighted, unfortunately that only works with the factory unit. I was in contact with them to see, but no luck.

I never wheeled my TJ, but have in my JKU, and it was a blast! Just as agile as my TJ seemed. I can't wait to try out the Rubi!!
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I found out today my new Rubicon was selected for 100% inspection, so I won't be getting it as soon as I anticipated. When it first got out of Paint, I went ahead and ordered all the parts I thought I needed to complete the install of the head unit and the CB, and things have been arriving over the past 2 days.

Having nothing to do, I decided to bench wire the CB to play around with it. I'm glad I did, since I discovered I ordered the wrong mount for the Firestik CB antenna. I ordered the FireStik K4 Antenna Stud Mount, but should have gotten the FireStik K4A so I can just screw in the connector... Technically I suppose what I have will work if I cut the wire, but for being out .98 I won't bother!
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I'm coming from a '12 JKU with the 430N. At first I liked it, but then once I just started using gps apps on my phone, streaming Slacker/Pandora, I realized it wasn't worth it.
I tried Pandora and it sucked. Too Many advertisements, and it slows down the feed to a crawl. Jango Radio is much better, and only one ad a day. In fact, I rarely see ads at all with Jango.
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Installation begins!

Monday I drove my Rubi home from the dealership, which was the final piece of the puzzle! I've spent the last 2 nights running wires. Way more time than I thought it would, but I needed to run:

Front & Rear Camera
Front & Rear distance sensors
Subwoofer Power, remote power & remote volume
CB Antenna wire
Microphone

The first part involved running all the wires from front to rear:

Removed all the extra pieces (storage tray, trunk liner)


My Rockford Fosgate Sub next to the trunk pieces and Mopar trail kit (courtesy of Jeep)


Here's the component pieces for the Subwoofer. What is really nice about the Rockford that I got is that it has a quick-disconnect, so it will be easy to remove when I need to either for security, or to load stuff in the back. It also has a wired remote to control gain. I'm running that to the e-brake between the front seats.


My Boss wiring kit. Perfect for what I needed to run the sub. Will have an extra length of speaker wires when I do phase 3 (speaker upgrades).



The powered sub panel with the fuses, wiring block & female RCA's installed


Yup - the wires are long enough!


The trusty fishwire tool. This worked better in theory, and might have been overkill, but I'm glad I spent the time to do it. I could have just ripped up all the carpeting, but this made it easier to just pull all the wires from front to back. Got stuck a few places, but there were enough places to reach in where the carpet pieces separate to free it up and keep things moving.


I realized I forgot my rear camera and distance sensor wires!


Here's the bundle


Secured with Zipties - if they are good enough to detain terrorists, it's good enough for me!


I did need to break out a t-15 torx to remove one retainer in the trunk to pull back the trunk carpet and get the wire bundle pulled through to the rear.

And here it all is.


That was last night.

Tonight I ripped out the dash and ran everything where it needed to be in the front and in the engine compartment. Will post that all tomorrow.
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Um you shouldn't run power with your signal and cb line. They all need to be apart to stop noise.
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Part II

Glovebox pops out pretty easy. This is where the CB base and the wiring for the Lighting/HDMI connector will go for my iPhone.


Remove the top dash bolt - you'll basically need 1 9/32" socket for all this and a panel removal tool.


Pop off the window controls


The 2nd of 4 bolts that hold on the Dashboard panel


Pop off the panel underneath the steering wheel (this comes off really easy, just pull from the top)
Bolts 3 & 4 are the upper left hand and right hand bolts.


After the dash is removed. Need to tug on it a bit, but it all comes out nicely.


4 Bolts to remove the stereo



The factory wiring harness. The white cable is the radio antenna, the orange is the Sirius XM antenna. Turns out I ordered the wrong antenna adapter (a 40-CR30) and need to get a Euro style one. Metra (40-EU10), Scosche (they call it a BMW/VW one) and others make them. I'll be replacing the one I ordered with this one: Amazon.com: Aftermarket Radio Stereo Installation Antenna Adaptor Standard Reverse Male Female Set: Car Electronics
Assuming they do an exchange...


One of my distance sensors. I have 2 of these for front & rear. There is a great access strip right under the windsheld that makes it easy to run the wires through.


This is a view of the drivers side firewall access port. It's a squishy black foamish material that you can push through very easily. I ran subwoofer power, front camera and front distance sensors through this.


Running power over to the battery along the factory harness.
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Part III

Accessing the passenger side firewall. This panel pops off really easy. Can push on the back side to give an opening.



This is the foam (more solid than the drivers) where you can poke through with a coat hanger to access under the hood. I think there is one to the battery compartment, but I couldn't find it as easily, and this hole worked for me.


I zip tied the CB base to this bar in the glovebox and connected my Aux output. The cobra 75 only lets you hear through aux speaker OR the handheld. I'm going to run it to the stereo aux in and see how I like it. I may end up getting an external speaker for it later. Too bad it doesn't do both.


Running the CB power with a coat hanger.


On the other side.


CB Power and Subwoofer Power along with CB Ground wired direct to the batter. I didn't see the "always on" potential of the CB being a problem. Later I may wire up an accessory box, but this is good enough for now.


The PAC harness adapter and steering wheel remote wired to the Pioneer wiring harness. Still have to connect remote power (blue lines) to the sub


This metal bracket in the stereo slot needs to be removed to accommodate my Head Unit. I didn't use anything as a brace with the pioneer after install. Not sure that I need it.


Things plugged in easily in back, and after a bit of wire cleanup got everything situated and things fired up on the test power up.


A view without the faceplate once the dash was in. It helped to remove the faceplate from the Head unit to align the dash. It looks a bit off in this picture, but it's lined up well when you look at it dead on.
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Thanks for doing this.
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Nice write up. I wonder if they would have taken the stereo back and given you credit for it, before you left the dealership. Did you discuss it with them?

Regardless, I really like that new double din HU, with the removable face plate. Awesome new Rubi too. Congrats.

Are you planning to add aftermarket speakers, amp and subwoofer?

Are the stock speakers, paper cone?
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So, first impressions on the system after a few days of tweaking and configuring the head unit. WOW! I am super impressed. The stock "premium" speakers are really holding up well. I have no idea what kind they are specifically other than the 7 speaker alpine system. What really makes the difference is the high-pass filter in my Pioneer. I have it set to 125hz, which is the threshold I have the Rockford subwoofer's lo-band filter set to. That and using the one of the pre-programmed built in 7 or 8 band EQ settings in the HU. It takes ALL the muddy/mushy sound out of the stock speakers and I think lets them shine in the mid's and highs where they were meant to. The Rockford has a remote "bass booster" gain control that I can tweak as I want to to get as much or little bass as I need. I haven't bothered to see if the stock sub is even outputting anything. It's still connected, but with the high-pass filter cutting things out I imagine it's not doing much.

The AppRadio features and the other features of the Pioneer HU are taking some getting used to. There are several settings that aren't intuitive, but I think I finally have it dialed in. I was having issues with it not processing sound consistently through the HU and just outputting a line-level (no volume control at all) sometimes, or I would start to listen to music from my phone, and it would blare out at line-level, but when I hit play on the HU it would start pressing it through the HU... but once I turned off an internal "mix" setting, it took care of things. There is a custom audio EQ that I'm going to run and see if that gives me better (or worse) results.

I have no idea why the dealer would want to refund me money for a head unit that is a stock item you can't even delete if you wanted to... so the thought about asking them to credit it didn't cross my mind. I'm going to be selling it on craigslist. I'm sure someone wants a brand new 130 with a full year of SiriusXM.

Still need to wire in the cameras and sensors, tune the CB antenna and possibly double check the antenna ground on it.

Originally I was planning to move in stages, and go with amp/speakers next. But I may just be holding off on that for awhile and see. At least until summer once I get the hard-top off and the soft-top on. I still like the idea of front underseat subs.
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Stevil, keep us informed. Even when you do your speaker install. Thanks. I plan on doing the same with my JKURX.
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Geronimo - you are welcome. Let me know if there are any questions, happy to help when you work on yours.

Today I learned that apparently the Auto EQ function doesn't work if you are using a parking brake override (which I am). Either need to use a relay or also wire it to the emergency brake and activate it to use the Auto EQ. Wondering if it's worth the effort to rip open the dash and hardwire something that I'll just be using once or twice to calibrate. Looking for some alternative measuring/configuration utilities. I thought I saw something about a JL Audio app, but haven't been able to find what I am looking for.
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I was able to get the Auto EQ to calibrate. I tried it on a whim at the gas station and it want throughout the setup process. Basically generates pink noise at different volumes & frequency and a measurement calculation phase for each band. I was not in ideal circumstances, but was excited that I could get it functioning... So I go home and, nada... Couldn't get it to activate again. I tried a bunch of combos to recreate whatever order of engine off, iPhone disconnect autoEQ select, but nothing...

So. Then earlier this evening had to run to Home Depot. I get home and try again... And this time I could get it to work! So. In a more controlled environment, I let it do it's thing. I'll need to wait till I drive to work tomorrow to really fire it up, but already at low volume could tell there was even less mud in the stock speakers. Very crisp sounding.

And, my wife and kids were the best validation "your jeep shakes the house". Ha ha ha.
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Love the thread man, fantastic work!
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Thanks! I've been adding some other items slowly. Got the rear camera installed and the Cooltech CB mount. Still need to hide the wires better for the rear cam, and I will be moving the mounting from the license plate to somewhere else... Maybe on the taillight or under the spare. It's got a nice IR look to it. Started to look at mounting the front camera until I did some research into ACC power leads in the front... I found this thing called the DBOX and think I may build one.



Also, haven't been impressed with the reception on the 5" stubby antenna. I get stations, but not as many in HD on a regular basis as I think I could. Going to swap the stock antenna back in and see. If it's significantly better I'm going to ditch them both and try this multiplexer: Use Your CB Antenna As Your AM/FM Radio Easily!

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