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Old 05-18-2009, 10:41 AM   #1
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4x6 to 5 1/4 speaker adapters???

I see people talking about running 5 1/4 speakers in Jeeps (I have a 2006 Unlimited) but I can't find the apapters. Do they sell these or are these something people just make? Where can you get them?

Also, just double checking here...will 6 1/2's fit in my speaker modules on my overhead roll bar? Thanks.

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5¼" Speaker adapter plates for 97+ Jeep Wrangler TJ:eBay Motors (item 110391062749 end time May-23-09 14:46:57 PDT)

I got mine from them. They're great, but make sure to use some sort of lock nut on the speakers. My mounting screws just rattled right off of them.

As for the 6 1/2's, I heard it's possible, but you would have to cut the pods a little. I just wen't with the 5 1/4's all around. They sound great.

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Old 05-18-2009, 12:36 PM   #3
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the 6 1/2's will fit in the factory soundbar.
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Thanks, I jumped on eBay and bought a set! Now I just need the head unit and speakers! I'm getting those from Crutchfield, I just can't decide what I want.
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i suggest looking for your headunit and speakers on crutchfield that is a little over your price range and then see what kind of deal you can get on ebay. 99% of all my stereo equipment from ebay and saved a good deal of money.

as for all car audio equipment stay away from sony!

that being said, what is your price range for the speakers and headunit. i run a pioneer headunit that i have my sirius radio and my ipod connected

this is the updated version of my headunit and i love it, and i am shocked at the price crutchfield is charging right now

Pioneer DEH-P6000UB CD receiver at Crutchfield.com

as for speakers infinity kappa and kappa perfect component setups are a great buy off of ebay. i have the kappa perfect components and have no complaints at all.

what i would also suggest is that you build your stereo in steps. start with the headunit you like, from there save some money up to get the speakers you like and so on. most of the time people will get everything all at one time, if you pace yourself on the build and wait until you have the money for what you want then proceed.
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Shocked in a good way or bad? It's on sale for $149.99 right now on Crutchfield and most of them are more expensive on eBay. I think it's a great deal if it's a good head unit (and it sounds like it is). My budget for a head unit is UP TO $300 but if I can get a good unit for less, than I will. I'd like to spend $150 to $200 on speakers total if possible. Will a head unit power a component set without adding an external amp? Thanks for the help.
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shift half of that money from the head unit fund to the speaker fund, and you'll be golden. You don't need an amp to power the component speakers. Just try to find a decent radio with 4x50w output. The one that Jma linked to looks perfect. I've got an older pioneer that sounds great with my infinity kappas. as for the speakers, you'll probably want to spend about 2-250 on all four. Crutchfield has amazing price breaks sometimes. I think I got my Kappas for 70/pair. It was a $90 price break, so lucky me. As a company, they're incredible to deal with. their customer service is unreal. Good luck, and have fun!
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shocked in a good way. as for needing an amp for a component set its not really needed, my headunit puts out enough power to crank those speakers enough to make your ears ring for a while. don't expect much bass from just the speakers, if you want to be able to turn up the volume and not have anything over powering each other than you should look into a sub.

you can get a set of kappa perfect components on ebay for around $130 fro the sound bar and a set of kappa 2 way's for the front. i would say to not worry about a sub for now and save some money so that you get something decent. for a good sub and amp to match up your speakers you are going to be looking at spending around $350-$450
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I bought this head unit last night and it's already shipped today. I've used Crutchfield in the past and love dealing with them. I still comparison shop, but if prices are close, I always go with Crutchfield. Another place that has GREAT prices, especially on speakers (I think there's a lot more mark up on speakers) is onlinecarstereo.com. I have no affiliation with them whatsoever. A friend of mine uses them a lot and just showed me their site last week. Some of their speakers are almost half price. He says they are first quality, and shipped with the factory sealed stickers on the boxes. Thanks for the help. I'm trying to decide on the speakers and I'll be done!
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i say go with the component set it looks great in a factory soundbar.

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I guess I would have to surface mount the tweeters. I don't have the soundbar, it's the two separate black bubble looking plastic boxes that hold one speaker and a light in each. I think I could put the 6 1/2 in the speaker hole and then stick the tweeter on the surface of the box.
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my tweeters are surface mounted. i drilled a hole for the speaker wire and a hole for the screw to hold the mounting bracket and the tweeters clip into the bracket. and i mounted the crossovers inside the soundbar. i also ran new speaker wire for all the speakers.

here is a closer shot of the tweeter and woofer

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This is not a picture of my Jeep, I'm just using it to show what type of sound bar I have. I'm assuming I could surface mount a small tweeter on this next to the 6 1/2. Would this be overkill? Should I stick to using the component set in the front and leave the 6 1/2 by itself up there?
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I have the same overhead pods and I was thinking about using these to mount up front

Quadratec Exclusive JW-TWEET - Super Tweeters (Pair) for 97-06 Jeep® Wrangler TJ & Unlimited - Quadratec
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I just installed these 2 days ago.... cost me $6 and some change, from ebay...to include shipping.

They give me just right amount of tss tikka tss tikka tssss that I'm looking for.

Plus they came with their own mounts, hardware, and built in x-overs. My last set were still going the day I traded in that vehicle. They can be amped if you wanted to...I just didn't see the need.


I was originally going to go with kappas also... but I think I changed my mind. Looking at the Alpine S series (2way) now. I hear they put out better mids and bass.
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Hey Macho, I'm looking at the Alpine S series as well. They have great deals on them right now on onlinecarstereo.com. My friends use this site and swear by them. I bought my head unit at Crutchfield, but I'll probably get my speakers from the other place. A lot of the speakers (especially component sets including Alpine) are almost half off other places prices. I don't think they include the speaker harnesses like Crutchfield, but for the cost savings, I can pick them up somewhere else.

By the way, do you have a link or seller info for those tweeters you bought on eBay? I'll try to find them, but if you say they work that well, I'd like to pick up a pair from the same place you got them. Thanks.
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i had those up front tweeters and they sound like s*** compared to my components. and with component setups they are really geared twords mids and highs not lows. if you want lows just go with a sub later down the road, i have heard those alpine's and they sound fairly well, they tend to distort at high volume on the low notes.
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While we're talking low end, what does anyone recommend for a subwoofer? I'd kind of like a powered subwoofer because I don't know where I'd even mount an amp in a Wrangler. I have extra room in the back because it's an Unlimited (2006 2 door) but I need my space. This is my only vehicle with two kids so I use the rear space for practical uses such as groceries or bags if we go some where.
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Here ya go...

NEW COMPONENT CAR STEREO TWEETERS - SPEAKERS & BOOSTER:eBay Motors (item 360148758948 end time May-20-09 21:14:01 PDT)

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These suited my needs perfectly. I wasn't looking for ear splitting treble, or for perfect detail. Instead, I wanted something to compliment the sound. It's kinda hard to have a perfect sound stage in a soft top jeep...lol. Also, I moved the tweeters, during the install, to the pods to get an idea of what you were trying to convey to me in my other thread. It really wasn't for me, I much rather have them directly in front of me...but thanks for the advice.

Texascc,
I'm going to look at that site as soon as I can. I think I pretty much have everything mapped out on ebay...but will compare prices.

I too have an Unlimited....lucky us
This is what I'm thinking of doing.

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While we're talking low end, what does anyone recommend for a subwoofer? I'd kind of like a powered subwoofer because I don't know where I'd even mount an amp in a Wrangler. I have extra room in the back because it's an Unlimited (2006 2 door) but I need my space. This is my only vehicle with two kids so I use the rear space for practical uses such as groceries or bags if we go some where.
I've got the Infinity BassLink, and love it. It fits behind the rear seat of my standard wrangler, so you should have plenty of room with the unlimited. Despite what other people on the board think, this think totally kicks ass. And yes you can hear it, and feel it with the top off doing 70 on the highway. I got mine from Amazon for $210 shipped, and did the install myself. It was really easy to do. You'll also have to get a wiring kit. I got the EFX 10gauge one that amazon recommends ($30).
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While we're talking low end, what does anyone recommend for a subwoofer? I'd kind of like a powered subwoofer because I don't know where I'd even mount an amp in a Wrangler. I have extra room in the back because it's an Unlimited (2006 2 door) but I need my space. This is my only vehicle with two kids so I use the rear space for practical uses such as groceries or bags if we go some where.
there should be enough room to fit a nice 10" sub and amp in the rear and still have room for other stuff in your unlimited. i have a 10" audiobahn immortal sub and amp in the rear if my jeep and the amp is just small enough to be mounted to the sub box. if you are going to go with a powered sub the infinity bass link is the only one worth the money. i'm not a fan of them, i always prefer a real sub and amp, it makes it easier in my opinion to match the right sub with the right amp to create the sound you are looking for. the one thinking that you need to know when it comes to adding a sub and amp is that with amp's you get what you pay for.
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Hey Tex.

First off, welcome.

I see you bought the Pioneer 6000.
That's an awesome deck with TONS of capabilities, you're gonna love it!
I know this first hand because I have it's brother the Premier 600ub.
I am currently running a 160GB HDD in the Glove Box with it.
And at the price you bought it for, it's a steal!
The reason you got it so cheap is because that's an 08 model that Crutchfield is trying to clear out.
However, it surprised me to see why you didn't go with the one of the new 09 models. Any particular reason? Just curious.
(The new 5100 and the Premier 510UB have replaced our 6100 and 610UB models)

* Most people think the new 6100 and 610UB units replaced the 08 versions, but that's not the case this year. The new 6100 and 610UB has the built in Bluetooth, (like last years 7100 and 710UB models) where our 08 models do not. This year the new 7100 and 710UB have both the built in Bluetooth AND the 7-band EQ that our 08 6100 and 610UB models have. All that being said, the 09 710UB is the flagship this year by far.


As for speakers.
I say go ahead and buy the 5.25" speaker adapters for your dash, and do the mod. You should be very pleased with the results.
I too, like Jma, have Infinity Kapa's, so I can certainly vouvh for those.
5.25" in the dash and 6.5" in the sound bar. They sound great for the highs, but lack in lows, so if you want bass, get subs.
For subs I went with 2 Rockford, Stage 2, 10" subs. I listen to mostly metal, and those 10's hit hard and are quick too. Definitely worth the money.

Right now at Crutchfiled they have the same subs that I have ( except these are two 12") on sale for just $229. Man, that's a smokin deal. I paid $350 for my 10" in January. These are the 12", and $120 less. Looks like they're making room for the 09 sets on these too. Here's a link if you're interested.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_575P2L2...12.html?tp=112

And if you want to save an additional $20 off, you can use my referral code if you'd like.
Just enter it in the correct box while you're paying online.

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The only reason I didn't buy the 12" is because they aren't as quick for the type of music that I listen to. If I listed to hip-hop or rap, they'd be great.

As for amps.
I have a 300watt Alpine pushing the 4 Infinity Kapas,
and a 500watt Rockford pushing the Rockford Subs.
You can get great deals at a place called CARTRONICSPLUS.COM.
I got my 500watt Rockford amp there. I only paid $250 for that amp which would normally cost $500 everywhere else.
Nope, no refurb, brand new and sealed, with Rockford birth certificate.
It's tested and actually putting out 800watts because Rockford notoriously under-rates their amps.
I bought my Alpine for $200 form Crutchfield....see the difference?

Hope this helps in some way,
And good luck with your sound system man!

If you're interested in seeing some pics of my sound system, here's the link.
Pictures of all the Kappas and 5.25" Dash install are on page 3, pics of the Hard Drive Install on page 4, and pics of the HU/Amps/Subs on page 5.

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I guess I just jumped on it because of the price and I don't like the front USB plug on the other one. I'm like you, I plan adding a HD in the glove compartment and I don't want to have it plugged right in the front. I thought bluetooth would be nice, but I doubt I would be able to hear on it. I keep my top down as much as possible.
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see, i don't think there is a need for more than one sub in a wrangler, to save space spend the same on a single sub and amp, that is why i went with the immortal by audiobahn. my friend has 2 nice 12" mtx subs and my single sub blows his out of the water at 3/4 volume.
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I guess I just jumped on it because of the price and I don't like the front USB plug on the other one. I'm like you, I plan adding a HD in the glove compartment and I don't want to have it plugged right in the front. I thought bluetooth would be nice, but I doubt I would be able to hear on it. I keep my top down as much as possible.
There are 2 USB inputs on that model, one in the front and one in the rear.
I didn't really like the one in the front that much either, but it gives quick access for another audio source if need be. The one thing that our 6000 and 600ub units have that the new 5100 and 510ub units don't is the motorized face. That can be both good and bad though depending on how much you use it. For me it's good because i don't play cd's often, therefore it always stays closed, and protects from a bunch of dust getting in. But if someone uses it alot, I think it's a bad idea, because the motor will eventually fail, or the face could accidental get snapped off.
Yes, having a HDD in the Glove Box is Definitely the way to go. This is the one that I have. It works flawlessly, very fast song loading, the size is very compact, and it's relatively inexpensive.

Walmart.com: Western Digital Elements 160GB USB 2.5" Portable Hard Drive: Computers

Keep one thing in mind though about the Hard Drives. Even though alot of the newer portable ones are USB powered only, they still require more power to stay running than your 6000 will provide. When I installed mine, everything worked fine for a while, but then the HDD would randomly turn itself of for like 15 seconds, then come back on. It would do this at any random time. I talked with someone on an car audio forum and he told me the problem was not enough power. So, I rigged up another 12v power source behind the Glove Box, bought a 3-way (cig. lighter) splitter, and a 2-way USB splitter, and now the HDD works just as it should. Doing that also allowed me to put my Phone Charger, and GPS Charger behind the Glove Box as well. Now all my devices have solid power and are hidden. I'll post a link to my thread on how I did it, and what parts I used, for you. I also have the Bluetooth adapter now, but since I currently have a cast on my arm, I can't install it quite yet. The cast should come off next week, and I can finally get to it. It will be going in the Glove Box as well. I'll post pics when I get it done.

Here's the link:

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