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Old 09-09-2012, 07:49 PM   #1
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Audio Redesign 2012 JKU Base 130 Unit

Hello all,

This is my first thread and hope to get some advice/opinions on an audio revamp. I've done a couple of units on my old cars, but I'm no expert so please feel free to shot me down if I'm way off.

First off I have read a bunch of threads and have an idea of what I'd like to do. But I think I'm doing something no one else has. If they have please point me in their direction and I'll do some more digging. Anyway as stated I've got the basic 130 CD player without any voice, BT, amps or other such cool additions, so I'm looking to add;

Handsfree Steering Wheel Controls via. by : Adding back the OEM steering wheel panel (6046405AB) $45 and Sony XVA-601BT Head Unit $400

Front Speakers: Infinity 60.9cs $135

Back Speakers: Infinity 60.9 or 50.9cs $135/$130

Sub: Kicker 10CVT654 (Shallow 6") $85

Amps: Open Still (I don't have factory ones so I would like to get small enough ones to locate in the factory spot.)

Hopefully those look like good deals to those of you who are on top of the market.

The Plan: I hope this is unique enough to do a write up, but not so unique to be wrong minded.

So the HU I'll probably use the PAC that other people have used, but I don't want to loose the phone function, so we'll see. Speakers and amps will get completely rewired. Front speakers will be a typical insulated install, but from there I want to get a little crazy.

I would like to completely ditch the existing rear speaker location. I do landscape construction and always have stuff in the back and I have two pre-k kids that I am always banging their heads into the speaker grills. So I either want to relocate or get rid of the overhead roll bar set up. If I can't flip it to the back, I would like to drill into the corners of the back roll bar and put the 50.9CS in there and then put the tweeter in the center council using the existing speaker holes and mounting brackets. I'll then make the lower section of the center council into a sub enclosure. I'm not a huge bass guy, so I figure if I move it more central then it doesn't have to be as big since it won't be firing out the open back. I know they used to do this on the TJ's so anyone with pros or cons would be appreciated.

Sorry it's a little long but everything should be short from here out.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts or suggestion.

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Old 09-09-2012, 08:39 PM   #2
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go with the kappa 60.9cs's in front and in the back, makes it easier to power them. a 5 channel amp to power everything is not going to fit in the factory location. you can go with a 4 channel for the front and rear speakers and than a mono amp for the sub.

a good 4 channel amp for the kappa's is this

and for the sub this will work, 150 watts is not much at all, its hard to find an amp with that low of a power rating.

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Get an 8" sub. Don't waste time with a dinky 6". That is basically mid-range.
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6" subs are junk from what I've seen. Go to at least an 8" if you're set on keeping it in that centre console. I hate it right there, banging against my leg. I'm in the process of relocating mine to the rear. Since you need your back seats, I'd suggest building in an enclosure somewhere along the side. There are a few options for that.

As for speakers, get the Kappa series. They are excellent at their price point, and cover mids and highs very well. I'd also recommend adding some tweeters. I'd run an amp to power the speakers, another for the sub, and I'd have the HU set to power one or two sets of tweeters.
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Thanks for the input. I was wondering if you would feel the sub right next to you like that. The infinity are seperates so I'm hoping to be set for tweeters, not to mention its hard to find room for them all. I'll have to do some looking around at some ideas for the 8 inch sub. I just hate to put it in the back where I've got everything from dogs to sledge hammers on any given day. I could do the amps under the seat I just don't want them on the floor. I'd probably create some kind of inverted brackets and attach them to the bottom of the seats some how.

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I did a custom box under the rear seats on my JKU. I am still making finishing touches, like carpet and a front cover so that it looks like part of the rear seats. Bad thing about this is, I won't be able to put the seats down. Which is ok since I have a baby seat back there. Anyways. You should look at the 8" or 10" subs from JL Audio or Polk Audio (db series). Both brands and sizes don't require a lot of air space so you can get away with a small box.

Oh yeah, there is enough room to put an amp under the rear seat in the center. I have installed two fans to blow air in and out to keep it cool.
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:46 PM   #8
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Sounds like a nice set up, but seats have to go down. I've used every square inch from the front seats to the back to haul extra stuff for my projects. Keeps me justified for not buying a pickup. I need a bigger JK trailer, which will come soon, but that's another project. LOL Can you fold the back seats with the just the amp back there.
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I haven't tried it that way. I can try it out this weekend. I made it so that I can take the box out at anytime with just removing a couple of pins I installed.
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You can also do something like this or this. I know the latter is not the right vehicle, but it gives you an idea.
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An enclosure really needs to be box shaped for best sound
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Old 09-11-2012, 08:20 PM   #12
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Thanks apang!

Bronek, I like the second option (I have a cargo setup attached to my tail gate) but of course Crutchfield says it doesn't fit my Jeep. If it fit flush, unlike my 09, then I would be down with one in the back. I just can't loose the sqare/rectangle shape. They also say that about the Infinity Kappa 60.9cs but not the 50.9cs so who knows. I'm still on the hunt for the right amps. The ones Jma20a suggested on nice, but larger than I had hoped. Thanks guys!

I got my steering wheel panel today, so I just need to see if there's a thread on opening up the wheel and airbag to get it in.

Ordered my Sony XAV-601BT too... ouch!
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:16 PM   #13
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So now I'm wavering between the Infinity and the Polks everyone else is using. Sounds like the Infinity tweeters are overly bright and the polks are better blended and not as tough of an install. The Infinity magnets are 4" in diameter and won't even fit the sound bar without mods.
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I went with these:
Front - Polk Audio DB6501
Soundbar - Polk Audio DB651s (I didn't want to drill a hole for tweeters in the Soundbar)

They sound great!!
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Infinity all the way.
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Well I found those Infinity even cheaper so I ordered them. If the don't work then I'll return them and go Polk. I'm a sucker for a good sale. I think I'm going to add head rest video for the kids too.
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I only went with the Polk since the DB series are rated for marine and can take on any condensation. I have had problems in the past where I leave the top down and leave it outside overnight, cones get ruined.
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I never had any issues with my infinity kappa perfects. But they are aluminum cone so water doesn't do damage.
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I've run Kappas since they came out in all my vehicles. No issues with them ever.
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I did kickers for all 6, put a kicker AMP in the rear cargo cubby area. For the woofer i got a Kicker hideway 8" woofer/amp all in one installed under the driver seat. My head unit is a kenwood dnx 8120
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I was a bit worried about water, but they are not fabric/paper cones, so I'm hoping I'm good, but I have gotten wet a couple of times. I find it helps build good character in my wife and kids LOL.

So I've seen some posts about using a PAC wiring harness and I was wondering how peoples experiences have been with that vs Axxcess. According to a PAC email, they say I should use the RP4-CH11. It keeps steering wheel controls as well as accessory options and Navi outputs. Not sure I need the later two, but why not right. Amazon has it for $100. One of the guys said he lost phone control with his PAC, but I'm not sure what model he used....
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:42 PM   #22
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This is the list of adapters one guy said you would need for a 2012.

PAC C2R-CHY4 CANBUSS adapter
PAC SWI-PS if you want to retain steering wheel controls
PAC PAC-TR7 if you want to bypass the parking brake lockout
Metra 40-EU10 antenna adapter
Metra 95-6511 Dash Kit or Scosche CR1291B Dash Kit
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:52 PM   #23
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So my speakers showed up yesterday and I'm now trying to figure out how well they are going to fit. The woofers easily fit in the stock sound bar in back despite what Crutchfield says. Obviously the tweeters will have to be custom mounted, but that was obvious... It's the tweeters in the front that I'm worried about. I don't want the silver screen and ah dare I say nipple having to be exposed or poking out. Man I kill myself sometimes ha ha ha

If it mounts flush great, but I think it's to thick. The diameter is almost exactly that of the stock grill, so I was thinking of covering it back up with that.
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Hey guys, sorry I've been away for a while but have been working hard on the stereo when I can. I've got a couple questions.

1. Have you guys just tapped into the factory yellow and black wires for ACC powering and ground or do you run a line down the the lighter.

2. What antenna adapters have you guys used, are there any smaller ones, and is there one for the yellowish XM cable so I can plug it into the aftermarket s-video looking spot.

I hope to have a write up and photos of the whole process up here the next week or so. Thanks!
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:39 PM   #25
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Well since there doesn't seem to be many people interested in this I'll just post some pics. It was a good time and it turned out looking pretty OEM.

Here is what I ended up using;

Sony XAV-601BT (Bluetooth/Mirrorlink DVD Head Unit)
Infinity Kappa 60.9CS Front & Rear
Kenwood Self Powered Woofer (ran out of cash to do a real one,but happy for the cost)
Rockford Amp
Pac Harnesses RP4-CH11 & TR7
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Sorry I don't know why the images are different sizes. I took them all with my phone and copied them all from my Facebook page. I've got to get a good pic of sub yet. I put it under the wife's seat although she doesn't know it. Everything pretty much worked as expected except the steering wheel phone option. I figured I'd at least be able to start and end a call with it, or even just open the phone app on my headunit, but it doesn't. I may have to do some custom programming to the RP4.
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looks nice, very clean install. i hope you like those kappas, they dont have the best lows but that is what the sub is for.

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