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Old 09-04-2007, 03:37 PM   #1
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Blown Stock Subwoofer

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I have a 2001 Wrangler Sport with the console with the subwoofer. When I bought the car it had a new headunit put on. I'm not exactly sure when or even if I blew the stock woofer, but it's blown. I went down to the dealership today and they wanted $105 for the sub and another $80 to install it. No way am I going to pay that.

Next stop: audio store. They said that an aftermarket sub would not fit exactly and would take some modifications and that the stock amp wouldn't provide enough power to make it worth it.

I was wondering if anyone had done any upgrades and could recommend something or if I should just buy the woofer from the dealership and install it myself. Thanks in advance,

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in the end, a stock replacement at $105 is the cheapest it's going to get unless you have a spare low powered amp laying around.
the stock sub is a 6.5". a JL 6w0 will fit in its place as will other 6" subs. people have swapped in 8" subs after doing some minor trimming. either way, swapping in an aftermarket sub will require you to run an aftermarket amp to power it as the stock amp is 1ohm and only 50 watts.

people have built new enclosures out of MDF and fiberglass to fit in the console and fit an 8" very nicely with adequate air space. so that is always an option. it really just depends on how much work and money you want to put into it.

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Old 09-04-2007, 06:31 PM   #3
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for $180 you can get a small powered sub like a bazooka tube.
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dont get the stock one again if u blew it once!!!!!!!!
thats just stupid
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Mine blew too, plus my cheap stock deck won't play burned cd's.
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Agreed

For $180 you can buy a new sub obviously and a keg of beer. A good keg of beer. Not your usual college beer.
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i would recommend this, but it will take up some space
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-0Tmwym0...10&I=575PL1110
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Mine blew too, plus my cheap stock deck won't play burned cd's.

Mine stock deck plays them all the time. I dont even own a store bought CD.
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i would recommend this, but it will take up some space
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-0Tmwym0...10&I=575PL1110

It wont fit behind the rear seat unless you relocate the seat brackets forward 2-3"s and then have it fire towards the seat (or remove the seat).
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I used to be into car audio, old grand cherokee had quite a bit of money in the stereo. My brother helped me build it, he is a 15 year installer and used to compete in SQ contests.


My suggestion would be to replace it with a stock one, turn the bass down alittle and listen for distortion.....Mine is doing just fine. Speakers blow due to user error. You just have to know its limits.

It drives me nuts when I go wheelin and someone asks me for a tool because they have a big ass speaker box in the back of their wrangler and no room for tools!
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It drives me nuts when I go wheelin and someone asks me for a tool because they have a big ass speaker box in the back of their wrangler and no room for tools!
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Thanks for the suggestions guys. I was looking and I think I'll go for something like the JL 6W0 that will fit in the console and just get a better amp installed. The headunit is a Sony CTX-GT310, so it has a subwoofer channel but it seems like whoever installed the head unit didn't wire the sub there. So I'll see if I can get the audio place to install the amp and wire the sub to the sub channel. If I buy the speaker, is it going to be difficult to install? or is there some kind of harness in there with a positive and a ground? I'm new to car audio
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From what i've heard the stock amp has 4 output wires instead of 2 so an after market speaker wont work.

As the speaker actually going in the stock location. If its the same size it should just bolt right in (might need to drill few holes to mount it)

As installing an aftermarket amp goes. I dont know the size of the stock wires but you might need some heavier wires to go from the battery to the amplifier. Besides that it should be all downhill.
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the JL 6w0 is only a 75w rms speaker, so you will want to find the lowest powered amp you can. unfortunately, you are not going to find an amp that only puts out 75 watts to a single channel; whether a 2channel in bridged mode, or a mono channel. about the best you are going to be able to do is something in the 100-150watt rms range. the 100 watt is definitely the better way to go.

after a quick search, here is a 2 channel clarion that when bridged will give you 100watts x 1 rms to the sub. it will overpower the sub, but not by too much, and is about the best solution you're going to find.
Clarion APX2120 2-channel car amplifier 60 watts RMS x 2 at Crutchfield.com

another cheap amp would be this Profile 100SX (about halfway down the page). it's also a 100watt x 1 rms amp.
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or here brand new for the same price
NEW PROFILE CALIFORNIA 100sx 140 Watt 2 CH Amplifier - (eBay item 200096098256 end time Sep-29-07 09:40:42 PDT)

you are dealing with a low budget setup simply by nature, so don't get too carried away with high quality parts....for this setup, it would be a waste. although it is refurbished, for $29, i would give the profile a shot. between the sub, the amp, and an amp wiring kit, you should be done for no more than $125.

here is a 6w0 on ebay with a current bid of $1.00.
JL Audio 6" subwoofer RARE - (eBay item 130150203381 end time Sep-08-07 17:48:26 PDT)



the stock amp/sub combo is wired using a low-level input which ties in with the rear speakers (as opposed to RCAs to receive signal). it gets its signal from the rear channels of the headunit which is why you can't fine tune the sub separate from the coaxial speakers. with your headunit, when you wire in the new amp, you will be able to wire it straight to the sub preout using RCAs, so you will be able to independently control that sub from your h/u. go to ebay or walmart and pick up an 8 gauge amp wiring kit. it will only be a couple bucks.
this one is $20 shipped from ebay
8 Gauge High Power Amplifier Installation Wire Kit Amps - (eBay item 200149338051 end time Sep-05-07 20:17:24 PDT)
or go to walmart and get something like this
Walmart.com - Always Low Prices!

the 6" JL is basically a bolt-in procedure. you may need to drill new holes for it, but perhaps not. it will fit directly in the hole the factory sub is in.
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hint-stay away from sony, just because quadratec and jcw sell it means that is is good. they are crap.
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if you cant find small enough amp you can buy higher ohms speaker so it doesnt overpower.
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if you cant find small enough amp you can buy higher ohms speaker so it doesnt overpower.
terrible advice unless you want to damage your speaker and/or amp.
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terrible advice unless you want to damage your speaker and/or amp.

ok and why is that?
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At least you got some good taste when it comes to subs debruins, but thats a lil much for a jeep.

Just go with a zooka tube, simple, small, and they hit pretty hard but dont hit the wallet much.

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what the punch sub? 5 years ago punch had very nice subs but in the past few years they have gone down hill fast.
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ok and why is that?
i suppose i was on a one tracked mind. i was assuming a 150w amp b/c they are the most common low powered amp.

what was going through my mind was:
"running, say an 8ohm speaker (which JL makes in the 6w0) to a 4ohm source will reduce the power output of the amp by 1/3. so if you had a 150w amp, your power would drop to 100watts, which would still overpower the speaker and potentially damage it. "

if he ran an amp with 100w RMS @4ohms to an 8ohm 75w RMS speaker, it would be darn near a perfect power match.
so in that case, you were absolutely correct, and i jumped to conclusions.
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what the punch sub? 5 years ago punch had very nice subs but in the past few years they have gone down hill fast.
Rockford Fosgate, Yes.

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I had 2 punch stage 1s and they sounded great (just a bit weak). If its just 1 speaker i'd recomend getting a stage 2 though.
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So what did the OP decide?

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PM me if you want to get a speaker for the center con.

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sub

When I got my jeep it didn't have a sub at all, after riding around for a day or two I knew I had to fix this.I didn't want a box stuck in the back taking up space, so I went with a bazooka powered sub mounted on the left rear wheel well, it sounds great and I installed a 10 disc cd changer on the right wheel well both came from circuit city
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speaking of jeep speaker inclosures, I saw this in another jeep forum the other day...

http://www.sirgcal.com/

if you go there and click on the jeep projects page and then click on the "stealth" subwoofer systems... pretty slick stuff. the components aren't cheap but if you plan on keeping your rear bench seat, this is a clever way to have killer sound in a jeep without the bulky speaker enclosures that usually go with them.

Personally, I still like the 8" powered bazooka tube idea. Inexpensive and easy and it sounds good. you can keep it in the back barried under your tool bags.
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Stock sub placement is awful. you need a better box. Best advice: ditch the sub, stop wasting money on car audio (it'll never sound good and it'll be blown in 3 years anyway) use the money you saved to buy something to make your jeep cool, and if you really enjoy music, go buy a two channel Denon and a set of Martin Logan Clarity speakers. Maybe that's just me, I don't know. I hate putting red 'steal me' flags in my jeep. Oh and I actually enjoy the sound of accurately produced acoustic guitar that's so clean, if you were to close your eyes you'd think Claptin was actually sitting on your end table. To each his own. Good luck with whatever you end up throwing together. Make sure you figure all your numbers first, I'd hate to see it have to be done twice.
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TeeJay i gotta disagree with you man. For me and many more, listening to quality music is one of those things that just make you feel relaxed when driving. I have 2 sound bars and a sub and it sounds amazing so don't say it will never sound good if you really don't know. I'd add an under rear seat sub system of some kind and be done with it. Keep in mind music.. you can pull the system right off when selling the vehicle while with an lift kit to make your jeep look cool.. you loose at least half of the money right there.

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