I have a 2001 Wrangler Sport with the console with the subwoofer. When I bought the car it had a new headunit put on. I'm not exactly sure when or even if I blew the stock woofer, but it's blown. I went down to the dealership today and they wanted $105 for the sub and another $80 to install it. No way am I going to pay that.
Next stop: audio store. They said that an aftermarket sub would not fit exactly and would take some modifications and that the stock amp wouldn't provide enough power to make it worth it.
I was wondering if anyone had done any upgrades and could recommend something or if I should just buy the woofer from the dealership and install it myself. Thanks in advance,
in the end, a stock replacement at $105 is the cheapest it's going to get unless you have a spare low powered amp laying around.
the stock sub is a 6.5". a JL 6w0 will fit in its place as will other 6" subs. people have swapped in 8" subs after doing some minor trimming. either way, swapping in an aftermarket sub will require you to run an aftermarket amp to power it as the stock amp is 1ohm and only 50 watts.
people have built new enclosures out of MDF and fiberglass to fit in the console and fit an 8" very nicely with adequate air space. so that is always an option. it really just depends on how much work and money you want to put into it.
I used to be into car audio, old grand cherokee had quite a bit of money in the stereo. My brother helped me build it, he is a 15 year installer and used to compete in SQ contests.
My suggestion would be to replace it with a stock one, turn the bass down alittle and listen for distortion.....Mine is doing just fine. Speakers blow due to user error. You just have to know its limits.
It drives me nuts when I go wheelin and someone asks me for a tool because they have a big ass speaker box in the back of their wrangler and no room for tools!
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I was looking and I think I'll go for something like the JL 6W0 that will fit in the console and just get a better amp installed. The headunit is a Sony CTX-GT310, so it has a subwoofer channel but it seems like whoever installed the head unit didn't wire the sub there. So I'll see if I can get the audio place to install the amp and wire the sub to the sub channel. If I buy the speaker, is it going to be difficult to install? or is there some kind of harness in there with a positive and a ground? I'm new to car audio
the JL 6w0 is only a 75w rms speaker, so you will want to find the lowest powered amp you can. unfortunately, you are not going to find an amp that only puts out 75 watts to a single channel; whether a 2channel in bridged mode, or a mono channel. about the best you are going to be able to do is something in the 100-150watt rms range. the 100 watt is definitely the better way to go.
you are dealing with a low budget setup simply by nature, so don't get too carried away with high quality parts....for this setup, it would be a waste. although it is refurbished, for $29, i would give the profile a shot. between the sub, the amp, and an amp wiring kit, you should be done for no more than $125.
the stock amp/sub combo is wired using a low-level input which ties in with the rear speakers (as opposed to RCAs to receive signal). it gets its signal from the rear channels of the headunit which is why you can't fine tune the sub separate from the coaxial speakers. with your headunit, when you wire in the new amp, you will be able to wire it straight to the sub preout using RCAs, so you will be able to independently control that sub from your h/u. go to ebay or walmart and pick up an 8 gauge amp wiring kit. it will only be a couple bucks.
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the 6" JL is basically a bolt-in procedure. you may need to drill new holes for it, but perhaps not. it will fit directly in the hole the factory sub is in.
i suppose i was on a one tracked mind. i was assuming a 150w amp b/c they are the most common low powered amp.
what was going through my mind was:
"running, say an 8ohm speaker (which JL makes in the 6w0) to a 4ohm source will reduce the power output of the amp by 1/3. so if you had a 150w amp, your power would drop to 100watts, which would still overpower the speaker and potentially damage it. "
if he ran an amp with 100w RMS @4ohms to an 8ohm 75w RMS speaker, it would be darn near a perfect power match.
so in that case, you were absolutely correct, and i jumped to conclusions.
When I got my jeep it didn't have a sub at all, after riding around for a day or two I knew I had to fix this.I didn't want a box stuck in the back taking up space, so I went with a bazooka powered sub mounted on the left rear wheel well, it sounds great and I installed a 10 disc cd changer on the right wheel well both came from circuit city
if you go there and click on the jeep projects page and then click on the "stealth" subwoofer systems... pretty slick stuff. the components aren't cheap but if you plan on keeping your rear bench seat, this is a clever way to have killer sound in a jeep without the bulky speaker enclosures that usually go with them.
Personally, I still like the 8" powered bazooka tube idea. Inexpensive and easy and it sounds good. you can keep it in the back barried under your tool bags.
Stock sub placement is awful. you need a better box. Best advice: ditch the sub, stop wasting money on car audio (it'll never sound good and it'll be blown in 3 years anyway) use the money you saved to buy something to make your jeep cool, and if you really enjoy music, go buy a two channel Denon and a set of Martin Logan Clarity speakers. Maybe that's just me, I don't know. I hate putting red 'steal me' flags in my jeep. Oh and I actually enjoy the sound of accurately produced acoustic guitar that's so clean, if you were to close your eyes you'd think Claptin was actually sitting on your end table. To each his own. Good luck with whatever you end up throwing together. Make sure you figure all your numbers first, I'd hate to see it have to be done twice.
TeeJay i gotta disagree with you man. For me and many more, listening to quality music is one of those things that just make you feel relaxed when driving. I have 2 sound bars and a sub and it sounds amazing so don't say it will never sound good if you really don't know. I'd add an under rear seat sub system of some kind and be done with it. Keep in mind music.. you can pull the system right off when selling the vehicle while with an lift kit to make your jeep look cool.. you loose at least half of the money right there.