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Old 09-20-2013, 12:05 AM   #1
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cb radio help to boost signal...advice???

CB radio enthusiests help needed!

Hey so im a casual offroader who likes offroading with friends...we all have cb's and we like to meet on a channel and go from there.

My question is what is the max output wattage on a cb amplifier that will boost the signal past stock but wont bleed into other frequencies...I understand that the fcc says its illegal to modify your radio but im sure they wouldnt care if it didnt bleed into other channels...my friends are also looking for the same information as me..

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Any more than 4W is illegal, and most CB's are 4W. Unless you buy the ones that require a license. Go to your nearest truck stop with a CB shop and talk to the techs there.

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I understand that the fcc says its illegal to modify your radio but im sure they wouldnt care if it didnt bleed into other channels...my friends are also looking for the same information as me..
Illegal, is illegal.

And yes they do care. Enough to fine you $10,000.
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Why are there so many of those guys on channel 6 woth 10k watt ampz
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Why are there so many of those guys on channel 6 woth 10k watt ampz
Because they are probably licensed amateur radio operators in their basements.
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When I used to drive local, there was a guy in the Fort Smith Arkansas area who would harass people on the CB. Sometimes he would key the mic up and leave it for hours. His setup was powerful enough that no on else could talk over him. Call after call was made to the FCC and the response was the same every time. Paraphrasing: 'We don't care about CB's anymore, sorry". The guy did this for years until some local truckers got creative and put a stop to it.

If you run a booster, it will bleed over into other channels and there's not much you can do about it. Back in the day when I had a TV antenna, there were a couple of local guys that I could hear over my TV occasionally.
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Stay away from from CB amps, they just cause problems and as already said, illegal is illegal. 4 watts is enough power.

If you absolutely want to run more power than that, get yourself a ham radio license. The test for a Technician class ham license is easy and can be passed with just a couple hours of study.
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I just got told by a tech that a boosted antenna isnt illegal...only when you mod the inside of the radio? Is this true? Now im confused
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I just got told by a tech that a boosted antenna isnt illegal...only when you mod the inside of the radio? Is this true? Now im confused
Broadcasting on any Citizen Band frequency without an FCC approved device is illegal (i.e. tuned radios).
Broadcasting on any Citizen Band frequency in excess of 4 watts is illegal (i.e. boosted lines).

Get a Ham ticket, zello, hand talkies, smoke signals, or carrier pigeons. Abusing our RF rights is an insult to those awesome folks who fought for our right to have RF frequencies as citizens almost 100 years ago. You're simply barkin up the wrong tree.
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You were told wrong.

No boosting, inside, outside, beneath, above, noware.
No peaking, the signal, golden screwdriver.

4W out max.

As for those that say the FCC does not care. I'll refere you to the enforcement bureau and their recent actions.
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Well darn...I guess now I'm looking into a 12 foot whip...lol that would look so weird on a wrangler
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Well darn...I guess now I'm looking into a 12 foot whip...lol that would look so weird on a wrangler
A 12foot whip isn't even electrical compatible with CB frequencies, you won't even be able to set the swr with a whip that long.
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A 12foot whip isn't even electrical compatible with CB frequencies, you won't even be able to set the swr with a whip that long.
I know... I was just joking
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I just got told by a tech that a boosted antenna isnt illegal...only when you mod the inside of the radio? Is this true? Now im confused
Been working with 2-way radios since the early 60's (yes I am getting up there lol) and I have never heard the "boosted antenna" term.

It's not illegal to connect your CB to the biggest antenna you can find, the bigger/taller the antenna the better. That of course assuming the antenna was designed to work on the CB frequencies.

What is illegal is performing any modification to the CB radio itself that would boost its power output higher than the maximum allowable 4 watts.
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Been working with 2-way radios since the early 60's (yes I am getting up there lol) and I have never heard the "boosted antenna" term.

It's not illegal to connect your CB to the biggest antenna you can find, the bigger/taller the antenna the better. That of course assuming the antenna was designed to work on the CB frequencies.

What is illegal is performing any modification to the CB radio itself that would boost its power output higher than the maximum allowable 4 watts.
Well what people do is they do not modify the radio but they ad an amplifier inbetween the radio and antenna to step up the output power to the antenna...this technically isn't modifying the radio itself rather the antenna.
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Well what people do is they do not modify the radio but they ad an amplifier inbetween the radio and antenna to step up the output power to the antenna...this technically isn't modifying the radio itself rather the antenna.
He knows... and no, it is modifying the signal being transmitted. You are just juicing it after the finals, instead of at the finals (in the radio). The antenna knows no difference as it is nothing more than a piece of wire. As such, it cannot be 'juiced' or 'boosted'. And if you aren't tuned just right, poof.

You would be using a legal radio to make an illegal transmission b/c of the booster (which, because it affects the signal, would be a radio component, i.e. a 'radio').
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You were told wrong.

No boosting, inside, outside, beneath, above, noware.
No peaking, the signal, golden screwdriver.

4W out max.

As for those that say the FCC does not care. I'll refere you to the enforcement bureau and their recent actions.
I have to quote myself. You cannot increase the signal to the antenna above 4W. Can't increase power within the radio, can't add an external amplifier/booster/pill box/CW transmitter, what ever you want to call it. 4W to the antenna, that's it.

As Jerry said, if you want a bigger antenna that's more efficient, want to use a directional antenna (can't be done on a vehicle because of size) then go for it.

Full size CB antenna mobile setup is a 9' SS whip. Most trail parks and clubs do not allow them on the trails for safety reasons. You can run them on the street.
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