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Old 10-10-2006, 12:20 AM   #1
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CB Radio Question

Heres one for you guys runnin CB's..I am somewhat new to the off road scene and was thinking of purchasing a CB set up. I was thinking a 4 ft. Firestik ant. with the jeep taillight mount and spring stud with an 18' firestik high quality co ax cable. What do you think? Any suggestions for CB's?

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Old 10-10-2006, 01:27 AM   #2
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IMO Firestik antenna's and coax are not as good as other brands. There is a reason truckers and other people who use their radios all the time call them "firecrap"
An Everhardt Super Tiger or Wilson Silverload antenna will outperform the firestik for the same or less cost.
As far as coax I would suggest a RG-8X (mini-8) only cost a little more but has a thicker center lead and in most cases has a much higher shield rating (better for stopping noise).
I don't run a spring on my antenna's anymore. I just got tired of hearing the tennis ball hitting the Jeep. I just run a stud mount on the Tera Flex mount with a fold over on my longer antenna's (4 foot or more)
Also stay away from the Firestik's "Firering" connectors. I have fixed several peoples cb problems by cutting the end of the fire ring and going to a ring terminal connector stud like this one.
http://www.walcottcb.com/firestik-k4...ors-p-248.html
Radio's I would go with a Uniden. Cobra's used to be very good radio back when Uniden made the circuit boards for them. But they have gone down hill when they went with other manufacturers because Uniden wouldn't make them cheap enough. I run the Uniden PC78Elite and love it. It's one of the best sounding radio's (on both Xmit and receive) I have ever owned and I have had some high end galaxy's and rangers.

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Good advice!
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IMO Firestik antenna's and coax are not as good as other brands. There is a reason truckers and other people who use their radios all the time call them "firecrap"
An Everhardt Super Tiger or Wilson Silverload antenna will outperform the firestik for the same or less cost.
As far as coax I would suggest a RG-8X (mini-8) only cost a little more but has a thicker center lead and in most cases has a much higher shield rating (better for stopping noise).
I don't run a spring on my antenna's anymore. I just got tired of hearing the tennis ball hitting the Jeep. I just run a stud mount on the Tera Flex mount with a fold over on my longer antenna's (4 foot or more)
Also stay away from the Firestik's "Firering" connectors. I have fixed several peoples cb problems by cutting the end of the fire ring and going to a ring terminal connector stud like this one.
http://www.walcottcb.com/firestik-k4...ors-p-248.html
Radio's I would go with a Uniden. Cobra's used to be very good radio back when Uniden made the circuit boards for them. But they have gone down hill when they went with other manufacturers because Uniden wouldn't make them cheap enough. I run the Uniden PC78Elite and love it. It's one of the best sounding radio's (on both Xmit and receive) I have ever owned and I have had some high end galaxy's and rangers.

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In my opinion, and one who has been "messin' around" with ham, CB, and military two-way radios since probably 1961 when I likely built my first Heathkit ham radio, I am getting great results with my little Firestik antenna and Uniden radio. I see people belittling the Firestik once in a while but I see more Firestiks on Jeeps offroad than any other brand. They're rugged, don't sway excessively, and work just fine.
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Old 10-10-2006, 08:01 AM   #6
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I really like my Midalnd CB. I think it's a 77-120ESP. It has a front mounted speaker, and 10 the weather channels. My antenna mount is attached to the bumper, for no other reason than that's the one they had in stock when I bought it. Where are you planning on mounting it? Mine's mounted on top of the dash over the radio. I thought of putting it other places, but I wanted the unit in easy reach for the times when I needed it.
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In my opinion, and one who has been "messin' around" with ham, CB, and military two-way radios since probably 1961 when I likely built my first Heathkit ham radio, I am getting great results with my little Firestik antenna and Uniden radio. I see people belittling the Firestik once in a while but I see more Firestiks on Jeeps offroad than any other brand. They're rugged, don't sway excessively, and work just fine.
I was told by several people that the Firestik Firefly is the way to go. "It is hand tuneable, flexible, and very durable." this is what most people are telling me.
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If its going to be limited to trail use and limited range, then the extremely limited firecrap will work just fine. It's when you use it on the highway and out in the open is where it shows its short comings when compared to other higher quality antenna's.
As for the firefly unless you wheel in a place with constant overhanging limbs I would stay away from it. The small 1/4" antenna's trend to flop all over the place because they are just not stiff enough to stay upright. If you put a 3 foot 1/4" antenna on that Tera flex mount and drive at highway speeds it will be waving around all over the place back there. I have several different brands of 1/4" antenna's laying in the garage for just this reason. A 3/8" antenna will sit on that mount much better without flopping around in the wind. Then you could put a spring under it if you felt you needed to for wheeling.

Many antenna's are hand tunable most of the bigger brands have both hand tunable and cut to tune antenna's in the same model.
There is very little difference in the flexibility of the antenna's between brands. All 3/8" antenna's are as stiff as the next one and all 1/4" antenna's flex about the same.
One brand is just as durable as the other. Since most run the same sized fibreglass rod on the inside (either 3/8" or 1/4") they will break about the same time. I have seen VERY few antenna's broken on the trail but of those that did break, brand would not have mattered at all. They all would have broke.
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I ran a Firestik with a Cobra 75 on my XJ when I lived in Vegas a few years ago. It worked fine on the trail, but I did have problems when we would travel on the highway. It just didn't seem to get out or receive very well. I guess it was okay for trail work because everyone was fairly close to each other.

When I get back to the states, I'll be looking for a different antenna to go with my Cobra 75. (I like the 75 because of its unique compact setup and the ease of disconnection and putting it in the Tuffy.)
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:24 PM   #10
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Thanks for all the help guys. I was also wondering if i really needed a spring to mount it? Also can I just mount it to the bumper?
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Thanks for all the help guys. I was also wondering if i really needed a spring to mount it? Also can I just mount it to the bumper?
No, you don't NEED one. I think this would really depend on where you wheel and what kind of conditions. I wheel in place with some pretty low hanging limbs and have never felt I needed to have a spring. I have never had an antenna snap or get so bent over I thought it would break. So I don't run a spring. Others I wheel with really like to have it and it really doesn't bother them to have the tennis ball bouncing on the side of the Jeep. I think its more personal preference then anything some like to have the antenna flex, others (like me) prefer it to sit still back there.
The bumper is about the worst place on a Jeep to mount an antenna. It sits so low and has nothing but metal around it. You would need a fairly long antenna to clear the top of the Jeep which is going to make it floppy. If you use a shorter antenna with all that metal around it your going to have really high SWR which is not good for transmit range or the radio.
The teraflex is a really good mount or you count mount it to your spare tire carrier, both of which are far better then mounting it to the bumper.
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Okay, I am studying welding in college and made a mount out of some 1/8 inch steel. Its looks like the tail light mount. Think this will work? I have a 4ft fiberglass antenna from radioshack. I know its a cheapie but until i become more experienced I thought it would do. 20ft of coax cable and the adapter for the bottom of the ant. what do you think? sorry for all the questions but as you probably guessed I am a beginner when it comes to CB stuff.
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So I just got done with the install and I have noise from my fuel pump. Any ideas? Also where are most of you mounting the CB? I have an older cobra but plan on going to the cobra 75. But the old one will have to work for now.
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So I just got done with the install and I have noise from my fuel pump.
Where did you connect your CB's power and ground leads to? If they're not connected directly to the battery via adquate gauge wiring, that could be the reason for the noise. Especially if you just plugged it into some fuse location on the fuse panel or into the aux power/cigarette lighter port.
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Where did you connect your CB's power and ground leads to? If they're not connected directly to the battery via adquate gauge wiring, that could be the reason for the noise. Especially if you just plugged it into some fuse location on the fuse panel or into the aux power/cigarette lighter port.
Ahhh...Bingo! I is plugged into a fuse slot. Thanks once again.

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