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Old 08-06-2007, 08:41 PM   #1
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CD Player

I have had my 04' Wrangler for about a month now. I love the rig to death. I am in the process of upgrades including grill guard / brush guard maybe some other stuff.

I have noticed that some of the large bumps that I hit on a daily basis the stock CD player cannot handle. Lol it skips my cd's.

Therefore I was thinking of purchasing an Ipod and a transmitter through the radio. Anyone have any experience with this sort of setup?

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The transmitters are relatively inexpensive and work pretty well. Make sure you get a car charger for the ipod too.

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i tried few transmitters.. sounded like krap so i gave up and just got a brand new mp3 player (cd player that plays mp3s not a portable mp3 player).
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Well, you name it, I've tried it. Tried 4 diff brand FM transmitters, direct aux input cables, etc. Tried the new Sony Xplode, Alpine, and Kenwood "ipod ready" stereos. The Sony and Kenwood SUCKED! The Alpine was a very nice unit w/good sound but the interface sucked. It's hard to explain but just try to find a song driving around town in your TJ suspension. Finally, after trying all of the above, extensive research and reading of countless reviews wound up with a Pioneer DEH-5900i which offers the one of the turest ipod interface. Only extra purchase is a $28 ipod/pioneer proprietary cord and you have your entire library (including album, artist, song, genre, playlists) at your finger tips. The rotary dial allows you the interface most similar to the ipod. Almost ALL other units out there require a $50-$150 ipod adapter which is absolute crap.
That's probably way more than you wanted to know but figured I'd fill you in since I just went through all of that. Shoot me a PM if you have any other questions. Good luck.
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deh 5900 ib.. me too.. love that thing.. it sounds amazing

btw is it even possible to make the screen animation on random so they change every few minutes/seconds?
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deh 5900 ib.. me too.. love that thing.. it sounds amazing

btw is it even possible to make the screen animation on random so they change every few minutes/seconds?
I remember there being a random setting option but I think that had to do with the reversing of the animation itself. I'll play around with it tomorrow (no jokes please) and I'll let you know if I figure something out. In case I don't, here's the owners manual.

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without the remote ur stuck though.. lol the only problem i have with it is you gotta hold buttons while pressing other buttons.. so there are lots of hidden commands which sort of get annoying.
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So with that being said what Ipod would you guys suggest. I have a Palm Pilot which has Mp3 capabilities. My hands are tied I'm not sure what I should do. Should I spring for the Ipod or just purchase a larger memory card for the Palm Pilot?

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i would never get an ipod.. i rather buy just a regular mp3 player. I hate itunes.. you gotta download 5 gigs of spam before you can add music to the crappy old thing. Then at which point you cant add music to it from a buddys computer unless they have itunes too.. I would say ipods are over talked and over priced.
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i would never get an ipod.. i rather buy just a regular mp3 player. I hate itunes.. you gotta download 5 gigs of spam before you can add music to the crappy old thing. Then at which point you cant add music to it from a buddys computer unless they have itunes too.. I would say ipods are over talked and over priced.
Huh, spam?? I've only got a few of my over 800 tunes from itunes, but the ones I did get from itunes I didn't have to download any spam. Just got to limewire.com and get all your music from there. It's free too.
Your right about not being able to add music from a buddies computer, but I've never been in such i hurry to get more tunes that i couldn't wait til i get home. Considering how easy it is to break into a jeep, I got a $99 no name cd/mp3 player from Wal-Mart with a detachable face. Only thing extra I had to get was a $5 dollar cord to plug one end into the unit and the other end in my ipod. I operate everything from the ipod and dont touch the unit on the dash unless I change the mode to the stereo. I would have never bought an ipod for myself, but my wife got it for me for Christmas and I wouldn't trade it for anything now. Very nice and convenient. Just my .02

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Depends on how much music you want. Do some research on them and decide by how many gigs they have. Personally, I would prefer the ipod video, then you would never run out of space. I believe the nano will only hold a few hundred songs, compared to the video which will hold a few thousand. You think, who the hell needs a few thousand tunes?? Believe me, they start adding up when you get on limewire and can get anything you want for free.
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I just have a 4G nano. I have about 1K songs of the 1500 I have in itunes. I have also ret'd a few diff mp3 players and finally ended up with the ipod. No spam problems. Not sure about that one. Personally, after having just gone through what you are about to, I wish I had just done it right the first time, but instead I tried to penny-pinch and half-ass it a few times, but kept ending up with crap. Finally, spent the money and got what I should have to begin with. Regarding Jeep thefts, any new head unit will come with detachable face so as long as you remember to do it you should be fine. The poineer has a reminder beep on it when you turn off the jeep. FYI, Pioneer offers a model just beneath this one DEH4900IB that operates the same and will save you a few bucks. I know I sound like a pioneer salesman but I've been VERY pleased with this setup after going through a pain-in-the-a$$ process to get here.
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Huh, spam?? I've only got a few from itunes.
But you needed to download itunes and install it. Would you just rather drag and drop an mp3 file from any computer you want in the memory of an mp3 player or would you rather have to download itunes and then learn how to use that and then add music through that? In a way Itunes is similar to AOL so.. Makes permanent changes to the registry that cannot be reversed when deleting it, leaves dump files behind. I'd say it just isn't worth it but again thats just me.

Also another problem i remember with itunes was let say you plug the ipod to your friends computer.. itunes would automatically start deleteing songs from ur ipod memory that arent on ur friends itunes playlist.

With ipod i feel like i'm being controlled and have little say while with mp3 players i control it myself.
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But you needed to download itunes and install it. Would you just rather drag and drop an mp3 file from any computer you want in the memory of an mp3 player or would you rather have to download itunes and then learn how to use that and then add music through that? In a way Itunes is similar to AOL so.. Makes permanent changes to the registry that cannot be reversed when deleting it, leaves dump files behind. I'd say it just isn't worth it but again thats just me.

Also another problem i remember with itunes was let say you plug the ipod to your friends computer.. itunes would automatically start deleteing songs from ur ipod memory that arent on ur friends itunes playlist.

With ipod i feel like i'm being controlled and have little say while with mp3 players i control it myself.
I see what ur saying. I'm typically the same way about stuff like that. But I just don't have any of those issues. I downloaded all my music from CD's and that was about 1400 songs. The rest I rip off from friends CD's and then a few from itunes here and there. If you have a friend burn some of their music onto a cd, you can rip that cd into itunes w/o any problems. Or at least that's been my experience.
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But you needed to download itunes and install it. Would you just rather drag and drop an mp3 file from any computer you want in the memory of an mp3 player or would you rather have to download itunes and then learn how to use that and then add music through that? In a way Itunes is similar to AOL so.. Makes permanent changes to the registry that cannot be reversed when deleting it, leaves dump files behind. I'd say it just isn't worth it but again thats just me.

Also another problem i remember with itunes was let say you plug the ipod to your friends computer.. itunes would automatically start deleteing songs from ur ipod memory that arent on ur friends itunes playlist.

With ipod i feel like i'm being controlled and have little say while with mp3 players i control it myself.
An ipod is an mp3 player isn't it?

I guess I understand what your trying to say. I have never had these problems though. It all in having itunes "installed and set up right". Both me and my wife use itunes on the same pc and if i plug mine in to charge or manage it, i recognizes Chris' ipod (mine), and the same with hers. Sounds like you have witnessed or had bad experiences with itunes which has given you a bad perspective on it. It really is a nice and convenient device if used correctly. I guess to each his own though.
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Huh, spam?? I've only got a few of my over 800 tunes from itunes, but the ones I did get from itunes I didn't have to download any spam. Just got to limewire.com and get all your music from there. It's free too.
Your right about not being able to add music from a buddies computer, but I've never been in such i hurry to get more tunes that i couldn't wait til i get home. Considering how easy it is to break into a jeep, I got a $99 no name cd/mp3 player from Wal-Mart with a detachable face. Only thing extra I had to get was a $5 dollar cord to plug one end into the unit and the other end in my ipod. I operate everything from the ipod and dont touch the unit on the dash unless I change the mode to the stereo. I would have never bought an ipod for myself, but my wife got it for me for Christmas and I wouldn't trade it for anything now. Very nice and convenient. Just my .02



Depends on how much music you want. Do some research on them and decide by how many gigs they have. Personally, I would prefer the ipod video, then you would never run out of space. I believe the nano will only hold a few hundred songs, compared to the video which will hold a few thousand. You think, who the hell needs a few thousand tunes?? Believe me, they start adding up when you get on limewire and can get anything you want for free.
You know using limewire to download songs is illegal right? I'm not trying to be a stick in the mud or anything, I just know some folks don't actually know that it's illegal and that they ARE suing over it. Just an FYI is all.
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Mine does the same skipping thing. So i went out and bought a y-adapter (something like in the link below) and you plug your respective mp3 player into your existing deck. Your jeep acts like the headphones to your mp3 player. Sound quality is not bad at all and if you dont like the sound, you only spent 10 bucks. Make sure you get like a 3 foot length tho. otherwise your mp3 players will be dangling afoot. Also, try airing down your tires a bit. thats helps ALOT with mine.

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You know using limewire to download songs is illegal right? I'm not trying to be a stick in the mud or anything, I just know some folks don't actually know that it's illegal and that they ARE suing over it. Just an FYI is all.
I can't understand why an illegal site would still be up and going for this long. Guess you can say I'm "living on the edge". i have heard that before though. Thanks
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I can't understand why an illegal site would still be up and going for this long. Guess you can say I'm "living on the edge". i have heard that before though. Thanks
The site itself isn't illegal. Limewire is just a file sharing tool. That in itself is fine, however it's WHAT you share and download that's the problem. Just so you know, some people have been sued for $2000 per song found on their machine. It is happening more and more these days. You may want to find another means of getting your music.

Also, a lot of the "songs" found on limewire are nothing more than trojan viruses, put there by the record companies to make finding music a pain in the azz. So even if you are getting the music that you like, odds are that you're also getting spyware and viruses in the process. Ever open a music file and have it not work? Or get an error on startup? Just remember, you get what you pay for.
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So with that being said what Ipod would you guys suggest. I have a Palm Pilot which has Mp3 capabilities. My hands are tied I'm not sure what I should do. Should I spring for the Ipod or just purchase a larger memory card for the Palm Pilot?

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I have a Palm Treo cell phone, or Palm pilot phone myself. My laptop also has a 7-1 memory stick reader, that reads ScanDisc cards. What I did, was get a radio that had an SD media card slot on the front. I take my ScanDisc, drag the files from my comp onto it, put it in the radio in my Jeep (NO SKIPPING since theres no CD, and the interface is good) than when I get to my destination, I take the SD card out, put it in my cell phone, and I have 1 gig music on the go

Might want to take a look into ScanDisc media card acceptable radios instead of an Ipod, if you already have a palm pilot Mp3 phone that takes an SD card. I personally hate IPODs, and don't see the point in buying one, if your cell already is a PC version of one..
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But you needed to download itunes and install it. Would you just rather drag and drop an mp3 file from any computer you want in the memory of an mp3 player or would you rather have to download itunes and then learn how to use that and then add music through that? In a way Itunes is similar to AOL so.. Makes permanent changes to the registry that cannot be reversed when deleting it, leaves dump files behind. I'd say it just isn't worth it but again thats just me.

Also another problem i remember with itunes was let say you plug the ipod to your friends computer.. itunes would automatically start deleteing songs from ur ipod memory that arent on ur friends itunes playlist.

With ipod i feel like i'm being controlled and have little say while with mp3 players i control it myself.
Have you used an ipod or computer? I am not trying to be an ass but what you are saying is a little strange. I have two ipods that I take care of (mine and my girlfriends) and take care of over an excess of 1000+ computers. Now you dont always have to install itunes if you want to drop a file on your ipod. You can in essence use it as an extra disc through my computer. However, it will not be accessible until you add it to your music folder on your computer. I created a roaming folder (that is the name) on my ipod and drop everything from files to folders to huge movies and tons of music. With that said if you ever remove itunes just go through the registry and delete the entries yourself (dont recommend this if you have no clue how to do it). Music, that is a touchy subject but if you know anything about the internet you can find plenty of sites to download the entire cd/album for free and it is very hard to trace/get caught (most of the time) unlike limewire. You can use IP spoofing tools easily found on the net to change IP addresses and start downloading, which would work for limewire as well but limewire has too many virus floating around. If you feel like searching the net for MP3's go to this link Dump files, just go to the my documents folder and delete what is there that you dont want. That is about the only place that it creates the so called dump files. Other wise click the search button on your puter and search for them. Again, a very simple task if you can use a puter. Sorry if I came off harsh , I am just getting off work and have been configuring routers all night
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I don't know if ipods have blue tooth but pioneer, jvc and Jensen make bluetooth head units. That way you can also use your cell phone if it has bluetooth for calls in and out. As for music, I just rip my cd with audiograbber then transfer them over to a 4 gig usb stick and go from there, I wish the cd head units would read dvd's though just for the space.
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hey the best way to do this is if your gona keep your stock head unit they have a thing called the i simple it accutaly instead of putting it in as an fm transmition it is modulated so that it directly feeds into the radio im not sure if they have them for wranglers tough i do not own an ipod but i put in ipod adapters at least 20 times a day since it is my job and all lol anyway the best setup for you would to be like getting a aftermarket radio like an alpine and getting a ipod cable for it it will plug into the radio directly and will accutaly interface the ipod threw the radio so you coud controle everything right threw the headunit i dont know if anyone else sugested this already i didnt read like the 10000 posts i read about half of them so if someone did suggest this already then cool i guess
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Ditto the alpine

I put in the CDA 9883 just a few weeks ago. Took me a while to figure out the wiring but once in it worked great. Only required a $25 ipod cable which plugs directly into the radio. Cable keeps the ipod charged and you can browse through the ipod by artist, song, playlist etc right from the radio interface.

I bought the 9883 because supposedly it was HD, Sat Radio and Bluetooth compatible. Fact is you need to buy a seperate unit, that costs as much or more than the orginal receiver, for any of these functions. Doing it again, I would go with a lower end unit that just supports the ipod.
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i just installed a new pioneer head unit my tj and it sounds great. it is the DEH-P6900UB got it on ebay for under $175 shipped, it is on one the nicer ones that i have used, it comes with a built in ipod interface and all you need to do to listen is plug it into the supplied usb cable and you are all set. http://www.crutchfield.com/S-AWeJczb...0&I=130DEHP690
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i am casting a vote for my cheap ($100) pioneer cd player head unit that also plays mp3's disks, and it also has an AUX IN on the front removable faceplate. does everything i want it to do. even came with a remote.
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Also as a side note. With the pioneers decks (at least on my old dehp760 one of the first mps 3 players and almost $400) if you hold in the audio button it gives you more adjustability as far as the sound and stages and/or frequencies. It comes in really handy if you love your mid treble and bass.
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:11 PM   #29
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^ as i said.. many hidden comands
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Old 08-08-2007, 08:22 AM   #30
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^ as i said.. many hidden comands
Hidden commands, man when I put my bluetooth jensen head unit in and looked at the owner manual I about fell over, 100 freaking pages, it took me 5x's as long to read about the unit as install it.

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