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Old 01-30-2008, 01:11 PM   #1
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Convince me on a CB

I've been thinking about picking up a CB for my jeep. I do alot of offroading by myself as there really arnt any good clubs around here and all my buddies drive weak ass vehicles like accords. The only one of my buddies who even has an suv is terrified to take it offroad, but i cant really blame him, its a WK with auto 4wd and no low range and it SUCKS on anything but pavement...we almost got stuck in a parking lot covered in snow once with that thing.

So anyway i figure that if i'm stuck out there by myself and my cell phone doesnt work im screwed. I know thats one good reason but are there any other reasons i should get a CB? Also i've heard you can get weather conditions on them too is that true? Do you need a special CB that picks up weather channels or something?

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You shouldn't get a CB, they suck.

If you decide you really want one, we have an entire forum full of good info.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/communications/

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You should probably look into something with a little more range than a CB.
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:23 PM   #4
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X2 - VHF is the way to go and add a GPS.

Until you get hooked up, leave a map with an itinerary with a buddy in case you get stuck out there on your own (that is if you are way out in the sticks).
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:37 PM   #5
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Most all organized runs require that you have a CB. You can buy a whole set-up for about $100 so the investment is minimal.
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:44 PM   #6
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Most all organized runs require that you have a CB. You can buy a whole set-up for about $100 so the investment is minimal.
I think he was saying he travels alone ... I agree CB is needed for the club rides too but he's out there by himself. If you're lucky, you get a 5-10 mile range on a CB radio depending on topography. A VHF or 2 meter setup provides much more power and range.
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I also forgot to specify that most of the trails i do arnt anymore than 10 miles away from public roads. I knows i wont be too far out there, but 10 miles is a looong way to walk if i'm in trouble, plus i do alot of night wheeling.
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I'm a general class ham (N6TAY) and use VHF a lot but to say a VHF gets more range than an HF frequency CB is usually not true. A VHF (like a 2m ham radio) radio operates strictly via line-of-sight communications so unless you're on flat terrain, you're not going to talk very far on VHF. Only when you start using repeaters which you must program the radio to use, can you get beyond the line-of-sight communications restriction any VHF radio has.

For offroading, I use my CB 100X more often than I do my 75 watt 2m VHF ham radio. That it doesn't need repeaters to get out is a nice benefit, plus that it doesn't require any test be passed to get licensed (a ham radio license) to use is nice too.

Overall, you can generally communicate far further at the same power with HF (CB fall in that frequency range) frequencies than you can with strictly line-of-sight VHF and higher frequencies.

And if your VHF ham radio radio does not happened to be programmed for the repeater that covers the area you're in, well, you will just not be communicating with that 2m radio. In my hilly/mountainous area, we need a LOT of repeaters to be able to effectively communicate with our VHF (2m and 440 MHz) ham radios and that's a lot of programming for a radio to make it work in a wide area. CB is usually just a lot simpler and more effective unless you're willing to take a lot of time to get a 2m ham radio programmed for all possible areas you will be wheeling in.

Just get a CB that also receives the weather channels and I believe you'll be good to go. Then you can look into going with VHF ham radios later on if you want to.
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The Cobra 75 WX ST is a good radio. You can find them for around 75-100 bucks plus they are easy to hide in the dash.
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The Cobra 75 WX ST is a good radio. You can find them for around 75-100 bucks plus they are easy to hide in the dash.
The only issue with that particular radio is that it has a very tiny (and tinny-sounding) speaker inside the microphone. In a Jeep without a top or when you're traveling on the highway, especially if you have louder tires, it's hard to understand what is being said over that little tiny speaker. Just about all offroading Jeepers with that particular radio end up plugging an external speaker into it so they can hear and understand it more easily.
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Here's how my Cobra 75 is set up... if it helps. I've got the quick disconnect on the antenna and the handset can be disconnected as well. When I'm not wheeling or on a road trip I don't have it in there. The only set back to the 75 is (I've heard) they aren't as powerful and the range isn't as far. Since I only really use it on the trails and in groups I wouldn't know.







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The only issue with that particular radio is that it has a very tiny (and tinny-sounding) speaker inside the microphone. In a Jeep without a top or when you're traveling on the highway, especially if you have louder tires, it's hard to understand what is being said over that little tiny speaker. Just about all offroading Jeepers with that particular radio end up plugging an external speaker into it so they can hear and understand it more easily.
Oh yea,forgot to add that. I wouldn't run it without an extra speaker either.
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I bought the cheapest Cobra available at Walmart and a magnetic antennae that I put on the inside rear fenderwell, and it worked great for trails...however, I could not hear anything on the highway without an external speaker (I used a slave computer speaker I had laying around, works great!)
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:04 AM   #14
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10 miles at most from a paved road....you should have a cell signal with that distance. Unless you drive 50 miles to get to that unpaved road.

CB's are nice even if you don't run with a group. You may meet up while on the trail with someone. It could be handy then plus they do have weather stations and some have alerts that will turn on the CB when an alert has been issued. It happened to me once while in Montana.

I do agree with the others here about a VHF type of radio. I too wheel alone mostly but I also make sure that my Wife knows where I am and that I don't get crazy and attempt stuff where there is a chance of getting stuck...albeit getting stuck is part of the fun.

One thing I will say....stay with your vehicle if you get stuck and can't get out. Let them come to you. You have shelter with the vehicle and that is your #1 priority. You should carry a blanket and some water anyway when going out. A vehicle is easier to spot that a person. Plus someone may come along and pull you out.
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Old 02-03-2008, 04:14 AM   #15
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take this for what you will. im a cb nerd. i came into the hobby 2 years ago only to put a cb in my truck for communication with truckers for local road conditions and such, and to use on trail rides.

come to find out that the cb i purchased ... though "looked nice" was one of the worst cb's on the market.

after the upgrading addiction, i have since bought more than a few radios since, learning with each one.

it all comes down to what youre needing it for. if its just for talking on trail rides, you wont need anything more than the cheapest thing you can get your hands on. ($35 or so new)
if youre planning on getting heard from your said 10 miles from public roads, you will need a good radio. probably something that can be modded. for most instances to be FCC compatible, it is limited to 4 watts output. but there are places who can modify a cb to do more than the legal 4 watts.
i think i read somewhere, that 1 watt will do about 1 mile roughly. 4 watts will easily do more than 4 miles. but once you get out further than that, its harder to get your broadcast out. a lot depends on your terrain also.

another thing to consider is your antenna. its the more important thing to look at. a crummy radio with a well set up antenna system will easily outperform a sweet radio with a crummy antenna setup.

wow... i could keep going on forever.... pm me if you have questions on anything. gimme an idea of what youre looking for and what you want to spend, and i can steer you in the right direction!
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take this for what you will. im a cb nerd. i came into the hobby 2 years ago only to put a cb in my truck for communication with truckers for local road conditions and such, and to use on trail rides.

come to find out that the cb i purchased ... though "looked nice" was one of the worst cb's on the market.

after the upgrading addiction, i have since bought more than a few radios since, learning with each one.

it all comes down to what youre needing it for. if its just for talking on trail rides, you wont need anything more than the cheapest thing you can get your hands on. ($35 or so new)
if youre planning on getting heard from your said 10 miles from public roads, you will need a good radio. probably something that can be modded. for most instances to be FCC compatible, it is limited to 4 watts output. but there are places who can modify a cb to do more than the legal 4 watts.
i think i read somewhere, that 1 watt will do about 1 mile roughly. 4 watts will easily do more than 4 miles. but once you get out further than that, its harder to get your broadcast out. a lot depends on your terrain also.

another thing to consider is your antenna. its the more important thing to look at. a crummy radio with a well set up antenna system will easily outperform a sweet radio with a crummy antenna setup.

wow... i could keep going on forever.... pm me if you have questions on anything. gimme an idea of what youre looking for and what you want to spend, and i can steer you in the right direction!
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take this for what you will. im a cb nerd. i came into the hobby 2 years ago only to put a cb in my truck for communication with truckers for local road conditions and such, and to use on trail rides.

come to find out that the cb i purchased ... though "looked nice" was one of the worst cb's on the market.

after the upgrading addiction, i have since bought more than a few radios since, learning with each one.

it all comes down to what youre needing it for. if its just for talking on trail rides, you wont need anything more than the cheapest thing you can get your hands on. ($35 or so new)
if youre planning on getting heard from your said 10 miles from public roads, you will need a good radio. probably something that can be modded. for most instances to be FCC compatible, it is limited to 4 watts output. but there are places who can modify a cb to do more than the legal 4 watts.
i think i read somewhere, that 1 watt will do about 1 mile roughly. 4 watts will easily do more than 4 miles. but once you get out further than that, its harder to get your broadcast out. a lot depends on your terrain also.

another thing to consider is your antenna. its the more important thing to look at. a crummy radio with a well set up antenna system will easily outperform a sweet radio with a crummy antenna setup.

wow... i could keep going on forever.... pm me if you have questions on anything. gimme an idea of what youre looking for and what you want to spend, and i can steer you in the right direction!
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An awesome little CB that is often overlooked is the Uniden PRO510xls

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