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Old 12-27-2012, 07:27 PM   #1
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DIY Wireless Winch Remote Idea

Hello there,

I'm new to the site but am looking at purchasing a Jeep. I have a smittybilt XRC 10 Comp winch on the way. For the application I'm using it for it would be really nice to have a wireless remote. I have an old remote start system that I picked up at a swap meet years ago. I'm not exactly sure how they work or how the winch solenoids work, but my thinking is that I hook up power to the remote start system, push a button on the remote start remote control, probe the 16 wires on the remote start module to see which one gets power when pressing the button, and then wiring that wire to the "Winch In" solenoid. I will do the same for a second button on the remote for the "Winch Out" solenoid.

I'm sure there are some flaws in my thinking. My main concern is the remote start system working like I think it will. (Pushing a button makes a wire go hot on the module)

Any help or criticism is appreciated.

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Old 12-27-2012, 08:39 PM   #2
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Just for clarification, you plan to use the remote start only for winch control - not as a remote starter at all, right?

It really depends on what kind of unit you have, and how many buttons are on the remote. If it's only a remote starter with a one button remote, you are out of luck. If it's a remote start and keyless entry unit, you may be able to do it if the unit has two auxiliary outputs. The main problem is that the remote start command sent by the remote begins a timed procedure that activates certain circuits for a predetermined timeframe. That is to say, there is no single wire that goes hot for as long as you hold the start or lock/unlock buttons.

Auxiliary channels can do that, however. Many basic remote start/keyless entry systems only have one aux channel, so you would be able to control one way for the winch; higher end units will have up to 5 aux channels, so it just depends on what system you have.

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Yes it will only be used for winch control if I can make it work. The system I have is an old bulldog system. The remote has four buttons (Start, Lock/Unlock, Trunk, and Stop). I figured the "Start" button was timed, but I was hoping the "Lock" and "Trunk" button would be hot as long as I held them. I guess I'll pry just have to wire it up to 12V and experiment.
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remote start is actually not a terrible choice. It *should* connect a circuit permamently with a single button press, because there has to be a "bypass" for the run circuit. So you could have the remote start button activate the winch (in one direction) and it will go until you hit the stop button. That's probably not the safest set up, but it's what you'll end up with using an old remote start.

the trunk and door lock are probably useless. In theory you could add a circuit to make them select between in or out on the winch, but it would be much easier and cheaper to just get an aftermarket winch remote...
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As I said above, the trunk output is probably the best.... most units can be programmed for a Validity output, meaning it will activate as long as the button is held. The remote start status output that you are talking about is latched, meaning it will stay active until you shut the remote start down with a second press of the remote button. This is really not safe for winch control; what happens if you press the button to stop it but for some reason the unit doesn't receive the signal? Something like this could cause a lot of trouble if it's not done right!
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As I said above, the trunk output is probably the best.... most units can be programmed for a Validity output, meaning it will activate as long as the button is held. The remote start status output that you are talking about is latched, meaning it will stay active until you shut the remote start down with a second press of the remote button. This is really not safe for winch control; what happens if you press the button to stop it but for some reason the unit doesn't receive the signal? Something like this could cause a lot of trouble if it's not done right!
I agree with this. I know some winchs come with remote control and people do use them, but I feel winching is one operation where you want 100% control. Just think how often you have to rehit the button to unlock a door. That's no big deal, do you want the same situation when you are pulling a couple of tons around and it won't stop. Please go with a hard wired control.
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I wouldn't even consider using that to control a winch which could be dangerous with the wrong type of circuit controlling it. You're much better off with a wireless control that was specifically engineered for use with a winch, or just wiring up a remote control inside the cab. Your Smittybilt only uses 3 wires to control the winch... common, in, and out. So it'd be an easy thing to wire up.

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