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Old 03-07-2013, 03:09 PM   #1
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So I am working on tunes for the spring. I have used the search function extensively as well as talking to some audio shops and installers. I currently have an upgraded pioneer HU and I replaced the sound bar speakers with Polk DB525's when I bought my Jeep. I am ready to get it to the point where I can hear it with the top down and doors off. I have been looking and I think I have a plan worked out that will give me something solid, dependable and jeep safe. I have a couple options for each step so feel free to give me your input.

1. Move 5.25 from sound bar to the dash with Nalin brackets or buy new 5.25 components and install with Nalin brackets. I would like to have some feedback from users on the component set up.

2. New 6.5" in the sound bar Polk or JL audio marine stuff.

3. Use the existing enclosure and install an 8" sub in console to fill in the low end some or buy the SSV enclosure or build a custom box for a 10" to give a little more bottom. I do not want a box taking up cargo space or available for easy removal. Waiting for a review to be posted from someone that has installed the SSV box. I really do not want to pay someone to build the box and I do not really have the time.

4. Power all 4 speakers with a Fosgate PBR300x4 and a PBR300x1 for the sub or power all 5 with a JL audio HD700/5 or M700/5 hopefully either option mounted under dash discreetly. The Jeep is bed lined and I don't want to mount anything under the passenger seat and the drivers side is getting a new safe.

I am looking at about $1000 budget.

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Old 03-07-2013, 03:40 PM   #2
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you can add component speakers to the soundbar, i did it in my jeep. the install was not hard at all. all i had to do was cut very little fabric and drill 2 very small holes for each tweeter, 1 for the wires to pass through and the other for the mounding bracket.




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Old 03-07-2013, 04:34 PM   #3
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I was looking at components for the dash and door area. I was afraid in the sound bar it would be too much.

I am also looking at crossing the 5.25 a little higher.
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:07 PM   #4
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Check out Nalin's site. He has brackets for the tweeters that mount by the door straps as well as the 5.25" adapters.
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Old 03-07-2013, 06:45 PM   #5
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Yes that is what I was thinking about. Do they get in the way at all? I am a pretty big guy. I need all the room I can get.
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I have the Nalin component brackets with the tweeters on the doorstrap post. I've never had a problem with the placement of the tweeters, and they aren't easily visible - even with the doors off. I would definitely go the components in the front route if you plan to amplify them.

I am not a fan of tweeters at all in the soundbar. I used some woofers from my old Focal component set in the soundbar and am very pleased with the sound overall. I do plan to upgrade to some shallow mount 6.5" subs from Earthquake Sound down the road to get a bit more midbass out of the system. If you really want ear piercing highs, than coaxial speakers in the soundbar on an amp should be sufficient.

What you have planned there should sound very good - I would personally recommend the 5-channel route if you are doing a sub; the space savings are priceless in a Wrangler!
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:16 PM   #7
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The single 5 channel is actually bigger than the 2 small amps. I want to tuck it up high so I am not sure where it can hide. I am a big fan of JL audio equipment especially their marine stuff. I have a boat and it holds up well in a salt water environment so some wash down splash should be no problem. I was leaning towards the components and it seems like the low tweeters directed properly would give better imaging. My real dilemma is the sub. I want good sound but no loss of room. I am just not sure what route to go. I listen to a wide range of music fro rock to rap to country and I want it all to sound good, but I am not trying to win any competitions. Looks like I will be upgrading battery and wiring to help with the amp and winch install.
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:51 PM   #8
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I pulled the stock sub and amp out this weekend and I am going to drop it by a local stereo shop this week and see what they can do to get an 8" sub in the console. If not I may go with a small powered sub that I can remove easily.
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I pulled the stock sub and amp out this weekend and I am going to drop it by a local stereo shop this week and see what they can do to get an 8" sub in the console. If not I may go with a small powered sub that I can remove easily.
If you're still looking for solutions I've heard that you can fit the sound ordinance powered 8 in the console. And if you're wanting to build something yourself there's a write-up for a box that fits an 8 in the console on the "other" forum. About to work on this myself. Tired of the ported 10 I have taking up all the space in the back.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:32 PM   #10
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Thanks I will take a look at the sound ordnance box if they can't use the stock enclosure. I am not really much of a woodworker so I think I will skip the box building. I am going to go ahead and do the rest and keep working on the sub solution.
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So I am working on tunes for the spring. I have used the search function extensively as well as talking to some audio shops and installers. I currently have an upgraded pioneer HU and I replaced the sound bar speakers with Polk DB525's when I bought my Jeep. I am ready to get it to the point where I can hear it with the top down and doors off. I have been looking and I think I have a plan worked out that will give me something solid, dependable and jeep safe. I have a couple options for each step so feel free to give me your input.

1. Move 5.25 from sound bar to the dash with Nalin brackets or buy new 5.25 components and install with Nalin brackets. I would like to have some feedback from users on the component set up.

2. New 6.5" in the sound bar Polk or JL audio marine stuff.

3. Use the existing enclosure and install an 8" sub in console to fill in the low end some or buy the SSV enclosure or build a custom box for a 10" to give a little more bottom. I do not want a box taking up cargo space or available for easy removal. Waiting for a review to be posted from someone that has installed the SSV box. I really do not want to pay someone to build the box and I do not really have the time.

4. Power all 4 speakers with a Fosgate PBR300x4 and a PBR300x1 for the sub or power all 5 with a JL audio HD700/5 or M700/5 hopefully either option mounted under dash discreetly. The Jeep is bed lined and I don't want to mount anything under the passenger seat and the drivers side is getting a new safe.

I am looking at about $1000 budget.

Very similar to my choices. I went with DB521's in the dash (with Nalin brackets), and DB651's in the sound bar. I have a PBR300x1 sitting on my work bench, waiting to be installed. For the sub, I replaced the stock one with a Kicker 6.5."
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I'm going to use a PBR300x1 for the sub, and a PBR300x4 on the mids/ highs....As soon as I get time to wire it all up.
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I have been trying to figure a way to use the stock box for the sub and squeeze in an 8" sub. Of course the local shop wants to build a custom console. I really think I can work an 8" in even if it is not perfect it should be close and add more than a 6.5.
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Old 03-31-2013, 11:08 AM   #14
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I got my speakers and amp in this week. I bought the Polk components for the front and 6.5" for the sound bar. The Nalin mounts should be here tomorrow and I can get it all wired up to the RF amp.

I also ordered an 8" Polk sub to try and work into the center console. It will be an experiment to see what it takes to make it fit and if it sounds decent. It looks like it will be doable with some trimming. The airspace is small but I am not looking for thunder just fill for the bottom end.
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Good Luck with the install! I did mine last week.....Took my time, didn't take any pics, but got it all done. I'm satisfied. It screams.
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How did the 6.5 sound? Did it fill in enough bottom? Where did you mount the amps?
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Old 04-02-2013, 10:34 AM   #17
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How did the 6.5 sound? Did it fill in enough bottom? Where did you mount the amps?
Yeah, the 6.5's do fill the hole. The major difference between them and the 5.25's is that with the 6.5's, the speaker grate sticks out from the speaker pods. I mounted the amps under the front seats....one on each side.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:43 PM   #18
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I am going to tuck them under the dash if I can figure it out.
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I am going to tuck them under the dash if I can figure it out.
I looked at that, and decided that it'd be a major pain to try to get them back there.....so I settled for mounting under the seats. Overall, I'm happy with my install. I still need to play with setting my gain and getting equal sound from fronts and sound pods. Right now, 90% of what I hear is coming from the pods.

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