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Old 10-23-2013, 02:00 AM   #361
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For anyone using an yeasu 857d what are you using for ans external speaker? As soon as I start to move I can no longer hear or understand mine. My old radio gave me no problem.
I posted what I use in reference to the post about other speakers. The more complex the rig the less room in it for a good speaker. And in a jeep the ambient sound just makes it worse, I started with a heavy diecast enclosure mounted two way Stereo speaker and made a power amp with a small equalizer for it designed to match the speaker response and mounted that in the speaker, then mounted the speaker at the windshield tiedown footman loop. the volume is controlled by the radio just like normal. I hsve never had a radio that would work without an external speaker in any of my jeeps except my Grand Cherokees.

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Old 10-23-2013, 02:54 AM   #362
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Hi Everyone,

HZ1YR here.

I'm new to Jeeps and still didn't get my 2013 JKUR yet, hopefully in a couple of weeks.
Almost no one uses CB here but a lot of off-roaders and hunters use VHF rigs (Mostly are non-licenses) which is illegal. Yet, amateur radio operators here are mainly on HF bands. Unfortunately UHF got banned two years ago but we surely hope they re-allow it one day.

I noticed not much use bumper mounts for HF although mostly are having steel bumpers, may I ask you why aren't you using that kind of setup?

Personally, I'm thinking of having a setup like 9K2MB's


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I posted what I use in reference to the post about other speakers. The more complex the rig the less room in it for a good speaker. And in a jeep the ambient sound just makes it worse, I started with a heavy diecast enclosure mounted two way Stereo speaker and made a power amp with a small equalizer for it designed to match the speaker response and mounted that in the speaker, then mounted the speaker at the windshield tiedown footman loop. the volume is controlled by the radio just like normal. I hsve never had a radio that would work without an external speaker in any of my jeeps except my Grand Cherokees.
I think that is overkill. While Jeeps are noisy a standard unpowered external speaker works fine.

I have mine in the coin bin in front of the shifter. Plenty of volume even on the highway.
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:12 AM   #364
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OMs & YLs/XYLs Just a word of caution. I would refrain from posting calls on the site. Remember, this isn't a secure net. One of our local repeater clubs had a number of it's members rigs "borrowed" without permission, recently. The only common link is the use of the repeater as the radios were stolen out of their mobiles, from wide spread locations, across 3 counties. When you post a call on the web you are literally giving name and qth via the fcc database... I'd advise only giving the call In private msg After confirming the person you are having the qso with is trustworthy. The airwaves are literally much more secure... they don't retain a copy of the qso indefinetly... 73 N9###
I just read this entire thread because I'm working on a HAM Ticket.
Boy, this thread sure died quick once you started posting..what a shame !?

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I just read this entire thread because I'm working on a HAM Ticket.
Boy, this thread sure died quick once you started posting..what a shame !?

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Paranoia is a clinical illness.

Good luck on getting your ticket. Remember, study, don't just memorize the answers. It's a fun hobby. You'll enjoy it.
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:53 PM   #366
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Hi guys. Im KK6CXJ. Im new to ham & putting a 2 M in my JK this weekend
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Hi guys. Im KK6CXJ. Im new to ham & putting a 2 M in my JK this weekend
Did you figure out an antenna?
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I installed the Kenwood 2M in my JK today, with the exception of the antenna. I'm hoping to make it to the HRO store on Monday. I want to see what I'm buying. The internet makes it hard to size up antennas.
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I installed the Kenwood 2M in my JK today, with the exception of the antenna. I'm hoping to make it to the HRO store on Monday. I want to see what I'm buying. The internet makes it hard to size up antennas.
You may want to look at NGP Verticals.

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Old 12-09-2013, 07:21 AM   #370
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For my 2004 Jeep Wrangler I am ordering a 1/2 wave Larsen NMO-150CHW. The all black version NMO-BHW is $20.00 more. I have a Terraflex mount I installed a Breedlove NMO Drop in mount #028 into by opening the hole to 5/8 inch in the mount. The current 2 Meter rig is a resurrected Icom IC-2000H I repaired the final in.

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Old 12-09-2013, 08:24 PM   #371
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I installed the Kenwood 2M in my JK today, with the exception of the antenna. I'm hoping to make it to the HRO store on Monday. I want to see what I'm buying. The internet makes it hard to size up antennas.
I mounted a Larsen nmo 150 with a terraflex tail light mount and it performs very well..had to customize the hole in the terraflex mount a little and make it bigger though. I like the nmo 150 because the long skinny whip is very flexible when dragging it through tree branches..
I posted pictures on my garage page.
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I just read this entire thread because I'm working on a HAM Ticket.
Boy, this thread sure died quick once you started posting..what a shame !?

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Don't bother getting a ham license, you fit in better with the chicken banders, you prefer ignorance over being enlightened.
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Old 12-14-2013, 11:21 AM   #373
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I think that is overkill. While Jeeps are noisy a standard unpowered external speaker works fine.

I have mine in the coin bin in front of the shifter. Plenty of volume even on the highway.
What are you running for tires, exhaust, intake, and for that matter what type of rig? All things that make major differences with the noise levels in your jeep. the average high end ham rig has an audio output of less than a half watt. feeding an undersized speaker with very little dynamic range limits that output even more. Commenting just to see your words in print is an even bigger limitation.
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Old 12-14-2013, 11:47 AM   #374
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HZ1YR here.


I noticed not much use bumper mounts for HF although mostly are having steel bumpers, may I ask you why aren't you using that kind of setup?

Personally, I'm thinking of having a setup like 9K2MB's


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If you do a quick study of radiation patterns, you will find that the majority of radiation power from an antenna comes from closest to the feed point, when using a tuner, while the actual impedance is spread out across the entire length of the antenna, when using a tuned antenna such as the screwdriver, in your Jeeps pic. Another consideration, is due to the terrain we traverse as compared to that which you do, we subject our jeeps to substantially more hard jarring suspension movement, which causes massive antenna movement, and as such results in the antennas beating against the vehicles body. So as you can see its basically a matter of two things, first a more effective radiation pattern, and second the longevity of the antenna itself. The lifespan alone is why you don't often see screwdrivers on Jeeps here, the short wheel bases and type of terrain we have puts a substantial amount of strain on the NMO mount and eventually fractures it on the antenna itself. On longer vehicles where there is less rocking they are much more common. If Yaesu and Tarheel would come up with a physical mount with a separate RF connection, they would sell many more antennas to people with jeeps, Especially Yaesu, since the 857D will auto tune their antenna, and is an ideal rig for in a jeep.

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If you do a quick study of radiation patterns, you will find that the majority of radiation power from an antenna comes from closest to the feed point, when using a tuner, while the actual impedance is spread out across the entire length of the antenna, when using a tuned antenna such as the screwdriver, in your Jeeps pic. Another consideration, is due to the terrain we traverse as compared to that which you do, we subject our jeeps to substantially more hard jarring suspension movement, which causes massive antenna movement, and as such results in the antennas beating against the vehicles body. So as you can see its basically a matter of two things, first a more effective radiation pattern, and second the longevity of the antenna itself. The lifespan alone is why you don't often see screwdrivers on Jeeps here, the short wheel bases and type of terrain we have puts a substantial amount of strain on the NMO mount and eventually fractures it on the antenna itself. On longer vehicles where there is less rocking they are much more common. If Yaesu and Tarheel would come up with a physical mount with a separate RF connection, they would sell many more antennas to people with jeeps, Especially Yaesu, since the 857D will auto tune their antenna, and is an ideal rig for in a jeep.

73 and good DX!
I totally agree with you. Since 9K2MB's jeep was not built for rock crawling, as far as I can tell, he found such setup useful.
I personally haven't decided on an HF setup yet especially after reading your words, I'm reconsidering his.
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Old 12-14-2013, 05:34 PM   #376
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Just a comment about one of the members being worried about posting our callsigns here. I don't see any difference in doing that vs. broadcasting them on the air every ten minutes as required by the FCC. Not to mention there are websites that post maps of where hams live. I looked at one of those maps once & saw every ham call sign within 20 miles of my home.

And while I have a nice HF rig at home and a 2m in my Jeep, I don't see me ever wanting to also install an HF into my Jeep Wrangler. The antenna requirements for an HF rig in a Jeep are demanding enough that I'll just stay with my 2m. Not to mention I enjoy HF for DXing which I'd rather do from the comfort of my den than from the driver's seat of my Wrangler.

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Old 12-16-2013, 11:17 AM   #377
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What are you running for tires, exhaust, intake, and for that matter what type of rig? All things that make major differences with the noise levels in your jeep. the average high end ham rig has an audio output of less than a half watt. feeding an undersized speaker with very little dynamic range limits that output even more. Commenting just to see your words in print is an even bigger limitation.
AT tires, stock exhaust & intake, soft top all year long. Using a Yeasu FT-8100 to an MFJ speaker that sits in front of the shifter. It works quite well with plenty of volume even at highway speeds. I can hear it above the wind and road noise.

If you feel the need for an amplified speaker, go for it. For the average user, it's not needed.
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Old 12-18-2013, 12:40 PM   #378
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Looking for solutions beyond repeaters

KK6HWC here. I am trying to figure out how best to communicate when I am in the boonies. That is what the Jeep is for, but as you get into uninhabited areas the UHF and VHF repeaters seems to be few and far between. An example would be Death Valley where the nearest repeaters are in Trona, Ridgecrest and Bishop. Way further than you are going to reach with VHF and UHF gear. On top of that the land in that area is far from flat. Rarely will you have an emergency on top of a mountain. So the solution seems to be HF. I am looking to see what solutions others have come up with. You want to reach someone within a couple hundred miles typically. Someone in New York is not going to be as much help as someone in Bishop or Ridgecrest. Is the best solution NVIS to bounce off the atmosphere and hit the surrounding area? Looking for any experience that others might have.
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Old 12-18-2013, 12:48 PM   #379
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To KK6HWC, don't forget 146.520 simplex. You could install an HF rig, like a Yaesu FT857 or Icom 7000, and carry a 40 meter dipole and coax with you. In an emergency, throw the dipole up as high as you can get it and transmit away. Or one of those Buddipoles.
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KK6HWC, for close in NAVIS works. They usually use 80M, with a dipole. At least it does not have to be high. 40 might work, again with a low antenna.

We've used it for field day, but I've never watched them do it. (My main job is on the antenna erection crew.)
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Old 02-15-2014, 04:27 PM   #381
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Hi,
K8PZ here. Long time ham but new to jeeps. Another month and I should have a Jeep to start playing with. First mod will probably install a 2M/70cM radio. I'm curious to find out how much bonding it's going to take to make the Jeep a somewhat decent HF platform. I can always make 10 meters work, but if I don't get the Jeep soon, I'll have to wait another 11 or so years to talk to anyone on 10. Ha!
My screen name comes from my call, but you hams already know that...

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Hi just wanted to introduce myself. KD0WSK here name is Kalvin. New HAM and new jeep owner, I have a Kenwood D710 and an AvMap Geosat 6 with APRS

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Hello Kalvin from five land! Nice radio. I have 2 of the 710's, both running Green Light Labs GPS 710.

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I am a relatively new Ham (Tech) and just bought my first Jeep about a week ago. Thankful for this forum as there is a wealth of information! Following the Ham threads as I will be installing my Icom 880H and Larsen antenna soon that I pulled out of my old truck. Looking forward to getting back on the air and hopefully one day figure out DStar.
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bhgant congrats on your license! What kind of Jeep and of course pics are mandatory! Have fun.
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:08 AM   #386
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Picked up a new 2014 Unlimited Sport. The dealer had put the black wheels and BFGs on it which I really liked. It's an automatic with 3.73. I don't plan on going crazy with it but hopefully do a small lift, 35" tires/wheels, bumpers, etc., once these wear down. I smile every time I get in it! Pics to come.
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I just bought a Yaesu FTM-400DR, taking the technician test in 2 weeks. Any recommendations on how to mount in a 2013 JK? So far I'm thinking either a mount on the console (passenger side front), or maybe on the sound bar on the driver's side of the light. The control head will attach on the top of the dash, probably using 3M (similar to EZ-Pass mount). Under the driver's seat was a thought except for the possibility of water. The Tuffy overhead looks ugly in their current JK offering.

Also, antenna options? I have a soft top, so a 1/2 wave on the right rear bumper looks most feasible.
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Does the mic plug into the control head or the main body. If it goes into the body that limits your location.

I've got my FT-8100 body attached to the passenger kick panel, but the mic plugs into the head.
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Does the mic plug into the control head or the main body.
They changed it so that it now plugs into the main body. However, it's just a 6-wire phone-type cable so I can most likely establish a jack in the dash for convenience.
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I don't know why they do that, it limits the remote usage, at least the way I think.

If you are using an extension cable then you have some flexability. I would not use the sound bar. Get it out of sight.

For antenna's I use a ball mount. Not everbody is willing to take a hole saw to their Jeep. A popular option is the tail-light bracket. You want it as high as possible. Putting it down on the bumper is too low and you have the body in the way. That will severly distort your pattern.

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