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Old 07-09-2008, 10:33 AM   #1
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hands free cell phone vs loud Jeep

Apologies if this has been discussed before - this is my debut post.

I love my Jeep, but at highway driving speed, the rag top is loud. I live in NJ where there's a hands free cell phone law. So HEARING while talking is a problem. On top of that, I'm kinda hard of hearing (been a rock musician forever).

I'm amazed I havent been able to find a hands free earpiece phone rig with extra volume boost. I mean, with so many aging boomer males losing their hearing, wouldnt this be an obvious product line?

I'm open to any advice (and happy to find this site).

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Several suggestions:

Plantronics makes some noise canceling versions that may help.

Try an ear piece that has an earbud. I have a Plantronics Voyager 510 that is pretty good.

On most phones, to get max volume, you have to turn up the volume on your phone as well as the ear piece.

Consider turning off your phone when driving - it's safer.
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Consider turning off your phone when driving - it's safer.
They keep dancing around the possibility of making it illegal and finable like it is in the UK. I wish they would go ahead and do it. Its so dangerous my wife got hit by someone on the phone last week. I dont know why some people cant spend 20 minutes on their own without talking to someone. Its automatic for some people - get in car - turn on car - move - make a phone call.
Handsfree is much safer but still you have to dial and navigate your phone while driving.
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Consider turning off your phone when driving - it's safer.
Best suggestion yet! Short wheel base, high center vehicles are best handled on the road with both hands and your full concentration. These things don't handle like a boxster!
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Most studies show that a hands free device does not help solve the distraction on talking on the phone.

However if you have to do it there a company called Parrot that makes a great system. It actually ties into your stereo and plays through the car speakers.
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I use my Jeep as an excuse to not talk on the phone. I hate talking on the phone in the first place.

"Sorry cannot hear ya...too much wind.....doors off, top down...you understand...talk to you later..."

Hang up and flippin drive. I honk at every person I see on the phone. I also pull up next to them and turn the volume up on my radio to where they close their window..then i laugh. When I am on my bike, I rev the motor the whole time at the light.

This is one of my biggest pet peeves. I think all cell phones should be attached to the car, and then become rendered useless when the motor is running.

Cell phones should be banned on road use..I am sorry but 15 years ago nobody had cell phones and yet still kept in touch...amazing.
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I don't even think people should drive with their cell phone
so I don't try to answer it (even when I'm driving another car)
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What part of Jersey are you from? North Jersey doesn't enforce that particular law. Most of the cops around here are usually too busy on their phones to bother.
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I use my Jeep as an excuse to not talk on the phone. I hate talking on the phone in the first place.

"Sorry cannot hear ya...too much wind.....doors off, top down...you understand...talk to you later..."

haha me too... i usually don't even bother and answer the phone... i even use it as an excuse if i'm like at home and don't wanna talk. I just call them back later and say "oh, i was in the jeep, sorry" haha
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Bingo...I do that also. I just don't care to talk on the phone that much. The great thing is I have my jeep and when I am not driving my jeep, I have a motorcycle. So no matter what, when I am commuting to and from work, I do not talk on my phone.

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haha me too... i usually don't even bother and answer the phone... i even use it as an excuse if i'm like at home and don't wanna talk. I just call them back later and say "oh, i was in the jeep, sorry" haha
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I run all bluetooth head units in my jeeps, the latest one is a JVC BT-1 that has am/fm/cd/USB and has a separate microphone that I have mounted on the sunvisor. Works well, I have Jensen bluetooth head units in the hard top XJ, that has the mike in the faceplate which is OK provided the windows are rolled up. In all of them the incoming call comes over the stereo system, the JVC mike is directional so when you first set it up you need to aim it at your mouth.
The JVC was $279 with the installation kit from crutchfield, took me 15 min to solder and shrink tube the adapter, then another 10 min to remove the stock am/fm/cass and plug the new unit in.
Here is the unit from an earlier post.
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Tried them all. Jawbone is not bad but I had some trouble hearing on it.
I always seem to go back to using the Jabra BT250. Earbud in ear and very secure on ear, and the volume is, well I have to lower it since it is so loud. I use it with my iPhone.
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Thanks for the suggestions. I’m looking for volume, since my hearing is going. But I suppose I set off another discussion.

“Cell phones should be banned on road use..”

With all due respect, and I really don’t mean to fuel a big argument here or anything, but the idea of creating yet more laws limiting what we are “allowed” to do worries me. I mean, following that logic, why don’t we outlaw stick shifts, and car radios? Or how about we make it illegal to have passengers, lest they communicate with the operator of the automobile? Why not ban convertible top Jeeps? Isnt the wind distracting? How far shall we take it?*

I say the trouble is that DRIVERS are terrible on our crowded roads, and a license to operate such powerful equipment as an automobile would be best periodically re-applied for, reviewed and retested.

I see a lot of terrible cell-phone drivers on the road, it’s true. But I also see a lot of terrible drivers period.

I drive real good. And I can talk and listen to music and shift and use my directional signals and even think while paying attention to the road and hazardous, crowded traffic conditions.

My inquiry here regards HANDS-FREE phone use.

(I admit, I understand the relief in having an excuse for not being able to talk now & then…)

Sorry for the rant. I need a louder hands-free device.

*I guarantee you, there is someone out there who would start a movement to ban door-less Wranglers...or maybe convertible topped cars, given the chance…and they could recruit other like-minded adamants on the web, and they could all find a politician who’d like a safety legislation feather in his cap.

I live in a state where it’s ILLEGAL to gas up my car myself. I am fed up with laws.
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Old 08-08-2008, 01:34 PM   #17
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I live in a state where it’s ILLEGAL to gas up my car myself. I am fed up with laws.
Sounds like you live in NJ where self service does not exist which is OK by me, NJ gas is much cheaper than PA gas and in PA you have to pump it yourself.
If they do pass some self service laws in NJ don't look for cheaper gas prices either.
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You're probably right, Rich, though it makes no sense to me. Such is some kinda business voodoo.

I guess I'm impatient, but I go a little crazy watching a guy who seem capable of doing only one thing at a time (pumping the gas, replacing the cap, taking the credit card, finding the pen and slip, bringing it to the driver, waiting for the signature), waiting for him/her to fill my car, while there's a line of cars before me.

I kinda prefer whenever I'm in NY & PA. Slide my card thru, pump my gas & drive away. Perhaps it's a control issue.
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You're probably right, Rich, though it makes no sense to me. Such is some kinda business voodoo.

I guess I'm impatient, but I go a little crazy watching a guy who seem capable of doing only one thing at a time (pumping the gas, replacing the cap, taking the credit card, finding the pen and slip, bringing it to the driver, waiting for the signature), waiting for him/her to fill my car, while there's a line of cars before me.

I kinda prefer whenever I'm in NY & PA. Slide my card thru, pump my gas & drive away. Perhaps it's a control issue.
Lets see, $3.75 up here at the local self serv unimart 20 minutes ago where I have to get out in the $#$#@ rain storm that just blew through or $3.53 at the Hess down in Roxbury NJ yesterday where they pump it for you.
I'll crack a book while I wait Or explore the buttons on my new JVC head unit...
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parrot blue tooth hands free

I installed a parrot black hands free into my tj. The install was great and it works really well. I custom mounted the control module in the ashtray for ease of use and hide-a-bility. Looks great. My Kenwood deck has a "-" mute input wire on the back that I utilized; so when an incomming call is detected not only does the parrot cut the sound from the speakers and play a ring-ring but my deck also says "call" across the screen. (cool). I mounted the microphone wedged between the center dash bezel and the guage cluster. (The less wind with no top on??) Only problem: After 40 mph (on a non-windy day with the top off) no-one can hear a word your saying.
Anyone have any ideas of better mic placement or idea's??
I even took the foam cover off of a earbud headset and wrapped the mic to cut down on ext noise. Doesn't seem to help much...
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I installed a parrot black hands free into my tj. The install was great and it works really well. I custom mounted the control module in the ashtray for ease of use and hide-a-bility. Looks great. My Kenwood deck has a "-" mute input wire on the back that I utilized; so when an incomming call is detected not only does the parrot cut the sound from the speakers and play a ring-ring but my deck also says "call" across the screen. (cool). I mounted the microphone wedged between the center dash bezel and the guage cluster. (The less wind with no top on??) Only problem: After 40 mph (on a non-windy day with the top off) no-one can hear a word your saying.
Anyone have any ideas of better mic placement or idea's??
I even took the foam cover off of a earbud headset and wrapped the mic to cut down on ext noise. Doesn't seem to help much...
Try mounting it between the top of the steering wheel housing and the gauge cluster, right in front of the odometer. Thats where I finally ended up mounting my JVC's mike, I also turned the mic down to it's lowest setting of 1-3, with the mic set at 3 people were hearing what I said and what they said as an echo. Improved at 2 then when I tried 1 it came out just right. Apparently the settings are not volume like sound they are sensitivity settings. Might be the same on your parrot. My JVC streams blue tooth audio from the phone 4 gig memory then mutes it when a call comes in, be nice if they had a music on hold option on the phone for when I need to pull over and talk.
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Ill try that! Thanks
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What part of Jersey are you from? North Jersey doesn't enforce that particular law. Most of the cops around here are usually too busy on their phones to bother.
In most states cops and troopers are exempt from the hands-free or no cell phone laws .
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Thanks for the suggestions. I’m looking for volume, since my hearing is going. But I suppose I set off another discussion.

“Cell phones should be banned on road use..”

With all due respect, and I really don’t mean to fuel a big argument here or anything, but the idea of creating yet more laws limiting what we are “allowed” to do worries me. I mean, following that logic, why don’t we outlaw stick shifts, and car radios? Or how about we make it illegal to have passengers, lest they communicate with the operator of the automobile? Why not ban convertible top Jeeps? Isnt the wind distracting? How far shall we take it?*

I say the trouble is that DRIVERS are terrible on our crowded roads, and a license to operate such powerful equipment as an automobile would be best periodically re-applied for, reviewed and retested.

I see a lot of terrible cell-phone drivers on the road, it’s true. But I also see a lot of terrible drivers period.

I drive real good. And I can talk and listen to music and shift and use my directional signals and even think while paying attention to the road and hazardous, crowded traffic conditions.

My inquiry here regards HANDS-FREE phone use.

(I admit, I understand the relief in having an excuse for not being able to talk now & then…)

Sorry for the rant. I need a louder hands-free device.

*I guarantee you, there is someone out there who would start a movement to ban door-less Wranglers...or maybe convertible topped cars, given the chance…and they could recruit other like-minded adamants on the web, and they could all find a politician who’d like a safety legislation feather in his cap.

I live in a state where it’s ILLEGAL to gas up my car myself. I am fed up with laws.
I agree...I work on a farm and have no issues operating a backhoe, loader, or 6420 John Deere with a 15' flex-wing bush hog running behind it while my cell phone is against my ear. There are some things I cannot do and I avoid doing them...

For instance, texting while driving...I know I suck at it so either I send a quick one time text while the road is empty both in front of me and oncoming or I don't text period.

Same goes for talking on the phone...I can't shift and drive while holding my phone (I can talk and drive just fine with an automatic), so I will answer the phone for brief convos where I'm not going to be doing any shifting and I will make it brief enough that I'm off the phone before I hit any stop lights.

The problem isn't cell phones...it's stupid people and/or bad drivers.

Either they're too stupid to avoid doing things they're bad at...ie texting while driving and/or they're just horrible drivers.

I don't necessarily think they should outlaw cell phones in vehicles...but I also have no objection to stiffer penalties if you're involved in an accident while using your phone.

My grandma is one of those people who just can't talk and drive...and doesn't realize it. We were on a trip once and she was driving and she'd take a call...and she CONSTANTLY drifts out of her lane because she is unable to multi-task. So here I am clutching the "oh shit" handles going, "Granny...curb...CURB GRANNY...GRANNY!!!! CURB!" and she doesn't notice until the car smacks into the curb and bounces off...

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