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Old 06-18-2013, 01:03 PM   #1
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Help me spend my money on a sub!!

Hey guys, I've decided to buy a 10" sub for the Jeep. I am not an audiophile and do not want a system that will blow the windows out of the neighbors house. I just want some bass to my music (I listen to a little of everything). I really do not want to spend a lot of money on the setup due to the chances it *may* get stolen or rained on a little bit (I have a soft top). I just want some cheap bass. I have looked at powered enclosures and decided against them. Also, this sub will be going in the trunk area behind the rear seat. I had almost completely decided on a Kicker 10" with box that I can get for $99 shipped. However, I saw a setup on another thread that looked interesting. It is the VDP setup that can be found on Quadratec. It has a box, 10" sub, 750 watt amp, and a piece of board, similar to an insta-trunk, that goes over the top. I can get it for $300 shipped. I couldn't find many reviews of it at all, however. It seems a little too good to be true. Just IMO. Could y'all please give me some feedback about this? Which option would you do? If you say Kicker, could you suggest me an amp too? I'm pretty new to this audio stuff and this will be my first sub. Thanks guys!

Here's the link for the Kicker: Kicker 10TC104 Single 10" 4 ohm Comp Series Subwoofer Loaded

Here's the link to the VDP: Sub Woofer Kit 10" 750 Watt With Security Top VDP-7957502A

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Old 06-18-2013, 01:12 PM   #2
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Personally, of the two I'd go for the Kicker because I like building my own system rather than buying integrated units, but that's in part because I'm likely to build a system, then see a component I like on sale six months later and buy it, thus necessitating swapping bits in and out, and so on endlessly until my wife complains about the amount of random bits of electronica filling the basement and so a fire sale occurs.

The Kicker you reference isn't an especially powerful bit of kit and you will have a little extra tinkering required to install the amp with it, unlike the VDP unit where you'll just run a group of wires and be done, but you'll potentially have more flexibility to play with and grow the system if you go the Kicker route.

The VDP unit is a lot more powerful and by the looks of it a lot bigger; I haven't heard either so can't attest to their quality, but Kicker subs are generally pretty decent. The VDP unit uses an MA Audio sub, the reviews of which are not especially glowing if you have a look on a few car audio forums.

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Old 06-18-2013, 01:46 PM   #3
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If you are going DIY, I would recommend looking at a brand called Sundown Audio. Their E series sub will smoke the Kicker or VDP for about $107 shipped.

I did some testing with one Sundown and ended up with one 10" under each seat. Best sounding small sub I've ever used. And very nice price.
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:04 PM   #4
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x2 they sell them here my brother has this in his subaru and this thing amazing for the price.
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I wouldn't doubt what either of you say, but I got the impression that the OP was looking for something a) cheap and b) fairly close to plug and play. Under a hundred bucks for a reasonable speaker and enclosure as a single unit is a rather different proposition to over a hundred bucks for just the speaker, then requiring him to build or buy an enclosure as well. And if you're going to do that, then a world of options opens up to you.
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I wouldn't doubt what either of you say, but I got the impression that the OP was looking for something a) cheap and b) fairly close to plug and play. Under a hundred bucks for a reasonable speaker and enclosure as a single unit is a rather different proposition to over a hundred bucks for just the speaker, then requiring him to build or buy an enclosure as well. And if you're going to do that, then a world of options opens up to you.
Yeah, I am not trying to drop serious cash on this. I think I'm going to go with the Kicker after seeing garbage reviews of the Mobile Authority. Do you think you could recommend an amp? If I'm thinking correctly, the RMS of the sub and amp should be pretty close to matching. Could I run a 200w RMS amp with the 150w RMS sub with no problems?
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the fun is building your own system, get the components and build away.
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Yeah, I am not trying to drop serious cash on this. I think I'm going to go with the Kicker after seeing garbage reviews of the Mobile Authority. Do you think you could recommend an amp? If I'm thinking correctly, the RMS of the sub and amp should be pretty close to matching. Could I run a 200w RMS amp with the 150w RMS sub with no problems?
No reason why not, make sure you tune the amp properly with test tones and then don't continually push it to full chat and you'll be fine.

As for a recommendation, it depends on a couple of things. Where are you going to mount it? And what are your future plans? Most mono amps are going to massively outpower that sub, and for $150-200 you could buy a five channel amp with a much lower power sub channel that will suit your sub nicely - it then gives you the ability to add better speakers when funds allow and immediately get the best performance from them. That does add a little more thought to the install process though.
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No reason why not, make sure you tune the amp properly with test tones and then don't continually push it to full chat and you'll be fine.

As for a recommendation, it depends on a couple of things. Where are you going to mount it? And what are your future plans? Most mono amps are going to massively outpower that sub, and for $150-200 you could buy a five channel amp with a much lower power sub channel that will suit your sub nicely - it then gives you the ability to add better speakers when funds allow and immediately get the best performance from them. That does add a little more thought to the install process though.
I was planning to mount the amp to the box somehow. If not, just eyeball it and find a place for it once I have everything. But alright I'm excited for this. I appreciate all the help everyone.
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You could mount a five channel amp to the box just as easily, you'll just want to move it when you want to do your other speakers because the cable runs will make it relatively impractical to keep it screwed to the sub enclosure.
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You could mount a five channel amp to the box just as easily, you'll just want to move it when you want to do your other speakers because the cable runs will make it relatively impractical to keep it screwed to the sub enclosure.
Alright that's some food for thought.

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