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Old 03-10-2013, 10:48 AM   #1
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How to upgrade 430N system on a budget??

I have a 2013 Sahara 2dr on order..i've been reading about the poor performance of the 430N system..
My wife has it in her Grand Cherokee and i like all of the features, but i guess the sound in the Wrangler is a little "sub-par".....
(ok, bad joke)
I wanted to know if there are some relativley simple, and low budget ways to get more from the system..
I'm not a hardcore audiophile and i'm not looking to drop $1,500 bucks...
Just want to get a liitle more, if i can...
Thanks boys...

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Old 03-11-2013, 06:40 AM   #2
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anyone?

bump....

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Old 03-11-2013, 07:19 AM   #3
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Poly fill the speaker pods.

I did that and replaced all speakers with Focals. I am next going to replace amp, I had to. This was the first time I bought the upgraded stereo, my plans where not to replace. The simple poly fill helps a lot, The speaker upgrade helps more. Trying to decide on what amp I want.
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Poly fill the speaker pods.

I did that and replaced all speakers with Focals. I am next going to replace amp, I had to. This was the first time I bought the upgraded stereo, my plans where not to replace. The simple poly fill helps a lot, The speaker upgrade helps more. Trying to decide on what amp I want.
Almost any quality amp will help you... even a tiny 25 watt x 4 RMS will outperform that tin can they call an amp, in that system. I'd go with at least 50x4 though. I've always had good luck with JL Audio amps, but they are expensive.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:57 AM   #5
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is the 2013 Alpine any better then the 2012 Infinity? i wonder why they switched....


whats a 50x4 amp run roughly?

i'd like something reliable, upgrade a soon as i get the Jeep and then just be done with it.....
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:04 PM   #6
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This little Alpine appears to be a good amp for the money, $150:

Alpine MRP-F300 V-Power Series 4-channel car amplifier — 50 watts RMS x 4 at Crutchfield.com

Seems to be some pretty good choices from $150-250.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:53 PM   #7
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This little Alpine appears to be a good amp for the money, $150:

Alpine MRP-F300 V-Power Series 4-channel car amplifier — 50 watts RMS x 4 at Crutchfield.com

Seems to be some pretty good choices from $150-250.
so that would run my 2 dash and 2 sound bar speakers? nothing neede for the Sub?

bare with me i'm NOT a stereo guy.....
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Old 03-11-2013, 01:02 PM   #8
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I'm unsure how the Alpine amp is setup in that system. Maybe the 2 fronts/tweets are off the deck power and the rears of 2 channels and the 3&4 are bridged for the sub? Maybe someone will chime in. Might be a 5 channel amp...

I have the base system and everything is just running off the deck. Either way you can set it up several ways to suit your desire and pocketbook.
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Kicker 11ZX700.5 700W RMS 5-Channel ZX Series Amplifier (ZX700.5)

This is the amp I'm looking at its 5 channels
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:55 AM   #10
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Kicker 11ZX700.5 700W RMS 5-Channel ZX Series Amplifier (ZX700.5)

This is the amp I'm looking at its 5 channels
700 WATTS !?!?!? thats some power..... your gonna push that through the stock speakers? or are you upgrading them also ?
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700 WATTS !?!?!? thats some power..... your gonna push that through the stock speakers? or are you upgrading them also ?
Read specs carefully... most people will run them at 4ohms over 2ohms (2ohm is harder on the amp). If I was going to run an amp 2ohm, I'd buy a more expensive amp as well.

ZX Series 5-Channel Class AB Car Amplifier with Class D Subwoofer Channel
Channel 1-4 RMS Power Rating:
4 ohms: 70 watts x 4 chan.
2 ohms: 85 watts x 4 chan.
Subwoofer Channel RMS Power Rating:
4 ohms: 210 watts x 1 chan.
2 ohms: 420 watts x 1 chan.


I'd definitely change all the speakers if I was running that amp. I put a 75x4 high current amp in my other vehicle, swapped all speakers for those who could handle the power. That amp is 490W in 4ohms.
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Old 03-13-2013, 05:42 AM   #13
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they seem resonably priced..
was the install pretty straight forward?
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they seem resonably priced..
was the install pretty straight forward?
Yeah these are really great speakers. Even with the factory amp pushing them they thump harder than the factory sub. Install was time consuming, but i took my time did it right. The only modifying was for the tweeters. I just took a dremmel with sanding wheel and made the hole a little bigger, they fit right in.
I hope to get an amp and sub in the next few weeks. But I am running through money fast!!!!
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I have the same speakers with. 75w x 4 amp. I also have a 10" sub with a 300w amp. They sound great even with the top off.
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Good speakers with a good amp and you'll be loud and clear. This will cost you a few bucks though. Do it right once, then you'll be all set.

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