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Old 03-05-2010, 09:33 AM   #1
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Installing Roll Bar Speakers....

I think I'm gonna start my Jeep audio reconstruction with replacing the rear speakers first. I figured I could go to my local electronic/speaker place and pick em up.

I took off the speaker cover to reveal the speaker successfully (since it is only removing 4 screws) the speaker itself seems to be glued or fastened again. How do I carefully remove the speakers? I searched for pictures everywhere and couldn't find any....

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for my music bar it only had 4" speakers in it. and was only held in by the 4 screws that also held on grill. once i removed them speakers came out...if it stuck at all i used a flat head screwdriver and carefully moved them out... maybe all you need to do. depending on how long they have been in there.

what i normaly do in situations like this is go over whole area to make sure you got all screws. and take your time......in the 14+ years i have installed audio professionaly only vehicle i have come across that has screws on back side of speaker going into magnet is the new body style mustange w/ shacker system.


now depending on size of speakers in music bar i would sugest a cap for them, if your runnin them off a radio. cap is a inline x-over to take out bass from a speaker (normaly only a couple bucks to get). smaller speaker less bass it can handle.. for instance a 4" etc cant handle any. and will blow. now if your using a amp to power them then you can use the built in x-over on the amp. i have had same system in my jeep for over 6years and still works great.

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for my music bar it only had 4" speakers in it. and was only held in by the 4 screws that also held on grill. once i removed them speakers came out...if it stuck at all i used a flat head screwdriver and carefully moved them out... maybe all you need to do. depending on how long they have been in there.

what i normally do in situations like this is go over whole area to make sure you got all screws. and take your time......in the 14+ years i have installed audio professional only vehicle i have come across that has screws on back side of speaker going into magnet is the new body style mustange w/ shacker system.


now depending on size of speakers in music bar i would sugest a cap for them, if your runnin them off a radio. cap is a inline x-over to take out bass from a speaker (normaly only a couple bucks to get). smaller speaker less bass it can handle.. for instance a 4" etc cant handle any. and will blow. now if your using a amp to power them then you can use the built in x-over on the amp. i have had same system in my jeep for over 6years and still works great.

I'll try tp gently pop them out with a flat head. As for the caps, I'm not even sure what all that means. I plan on running these speakers off the factory stereo to listen to cds.
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I have an 04 and I'm assuming your roll bar speakers are the same as mine. I replaced mine this past summer. You are right, there are only four screws holding the speaker and grill in. The speaker just needs to be pried out of the pods because there is a gasket between the speaker and the pods and that is what is causing it to stick.
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Has anybody else done any upgrades that doesn't require amps in the car and can fit in the factory speaker spots? I'm just afraid that if I have my Jeep top off and parked someplace (or even on in a lot of cases) that the gear would be stolen.
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I have an 04 and I'm assuming your roll bar speakers are the same as mine. I replaced mine this past summer. You are right, there are only four screws holding the speaker and grill in. The speaker just needs to be pried out of the pods because there is a gasket between the speaker and the pods and that is what is causing it to stick.
Ok I went and bought 2 Pioneer 6.5" 3-Way Car Speaker TSA1673, because the dude at the store ran my car and it said it was 6.5's in the rear. But that's all I bought just the 2 speakers. Now what...?!?! I haven't opened the box because I'm at work. Can anyone tell me what I'll need or what to expect? Can I do this after work today?
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I'm not sure if there is a difference between 04's and 05's but my 04 has 5 1/4 in the rear pods. I have read that you can make 6 1/2 speakers fit but that it requires some modifications to the pod.
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I'm not sure if there is a difference between 04's and 05's but my 04 has 5 1/4 in the rear pods. I have read that you can make 6 1/2 speakers fit but that it requires some modifications to the pod.
lol yeah I'm pretty sure mine has the 5 1/4's too, that's why I'm a little nervous about installing....
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6.5's fit just fine! I installed some 6.5" Pioneers in my sound bar and they fit perfectly!

The only thing you'll need is a couple of wire connectors and some electrical tape. Should be able to do it in about 45min if your arms don't fall off.
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6.5's fit just fine! I installed some 6.5" Pioneers in my sound bar and they fit perfectly!

The only thing you'll need is a couple of wire connectors and some electrical tape. Should be able to do it in about 45min if your arms don't fall off.
Do I need to disconnect the battery to do this? (damn I sound exactly like someone who shouldn't be doing this...)
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I never disconnect the battery when I'm swapping a speaker. I only do it when installing a new stereo or amp. Not a bad idea though, just to be safe.
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i just took mine off today and installed new 6.5 3 ways and it only took 25 mins or so and that was cutting away the fabric and drilling new holes for the screws. it is alot easier if you take the sound bar off and install them on the ground..
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ok so i have to modify my speakers a bit to get them in there but which wires go to which side of the speaker???
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My 6.5 inch Kenwoods went in with the same mounting holes as the 5.25s that they replaced. I think the general rule is the "darker" wire hooks to black, but you can probably find the textbook answer if you google.
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This is the easiest way to tell if they're wired up right...hook em up the way you think they go. If they work, they're wired up right. If they don't or they sound muffled and fuzzy...switch the wires around, they're backwards.
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Ok well let me update you guys on where I'm at:

The Pioneer 6.5s are not made to fit in a 05 X's roll bar pads. They are literally a few millimeters in circumference to big. They have these prongs that extend that originally I thought was the problem. I called the store where I got the speakers and went up there. The guy told me his installers would probably just break them. He told me to try to make them fit and if they didn't I could return them.

I ended up having to bend the outer most ring of the built in speaker bracket. Face down they looked like bottle caps when I was done with them. They fit a little snug and I could only get two of the four screws back in them but it feels pretty tight. And neither the original or new covers fit properly, so I'll have to figure out what to do with that.

Overall I should have either put new 5.25's in or a different brand like the Kenwoods or something. Oh and they sound ok, I still have my stock radio though.

How much difference will a new HU make? My buddy has one he bought his wife 2 years ago, probably a Sony Xplode, that I'm gonna buy for like 50$ cuz it has the 3.5 aux hook up.


And I did this over a 12 hour span, including, going back to the store, it getting to dark, going to sleep, waking up and doing it first thing in the morning because it's going to be 55 degrees today first time putting the top down in 2010!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That sucks... I guess I will avoid Pioneer speakers then (which is what I was considering)...sounds like a PIA install. lol

From the reading I've done...many said you can't find very many 5.25's that will fit properly, but most 6.5's will...they just require drilling new holes. Same goes with the 4x6 speakers in the front...they say most 4x6 speakers won't fit properly so it's easier to just buy adapter plates for 5.25's and put 5.25's instead (that DOES require a little cutting...but nothing serious and it tells you--with pictures--where to cut right in the directions...or at least my adapters do).

Oh and a new headunit makes a pretty big difference depending on what headunit you go with...if it's got a much higher output than your factory unit, you'll find that your speakers will be much louder without distorting. When I replaced my aftermarket unit with my factory headunit in my old truck before I traded it in, I was surprised at how quiet my radio was with the volume maxed...and it was kinda fuzzy sounding. I think it was because I was running components in the doors and it just couldn't deliver a good strong signal (especially since components are designed to run best with a separate amp).
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My 6.5 inch Kenwoods went in with the same mounting holes as the 5.25s that they replaced. I think the general rule is the "darker" wire hooks to black, but you can probably find the textbook answer if you google.
Could you us a link to the Kenwoods? At all cost I would like to avoid any drilling or modifications.

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