Is the compact Clarion 4-channel amp worth it? Or get a 5-channel for the sub too? - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > General Jeep Discussions > Communications and Electronics

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 11-21-2013, 12:10 PM   #1
Commercial Member

WF Supporting Member
 
justin-branam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: NW Houston, Texas
Posts: 194
Question Is the compact Clarion 4-channel amp worth it? Or get a 5-channel for the sub too?

I am slowly upgrading my sound system. I got a JVC Arsenal head unit, put 4 of the 5-1/4" Kicker 40CS54 speakers, and just ordered a Kicker 10 CVT65 sub to replace the stock one.

Next up is amps. I figured I would start with the 4 speakers, since bass isn't a big concern of mine, but volume is. I wanted something small so I can try to hide it behind the dash, but good quality. I came across the Clarion, and at 4x50w RMS, it seems like it would match my speakers (2-75w RMS) quite nicely.

Has anyone used this amp and have any suggestions, or should I just wait a little longer and get a 5 channel that will power the sub as well? If so, any recommendations on a nicely priced 5 channel amp?

__________________
Plastix Plus LLC - Jeep Products High Lift Jack Plates JK Secure Rear Storage

Call Justin at 281-469-3451 or PM me for Wrangler Forum discounts!!!
justin-branam is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-21-2013, 12:36 PM   #2
Supporting Member

WF Supporting Member
 
Barmanvarn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Sherwood, AR
Posts: 4,834
Can't speak to that amp but RF is making a new line of very small, very powerful amps. I have one and love it.

You may want to check them out.

__________________
-Brian
2012 Cherry Red JK
TF 2.5 Coils w/ Billstein 5100 Shocks
17x8 Black Rock D-Window Alloys
315/70/17 GY Duratracs
4:56 Gears - LSD in Rear w/ Ten Factory Chromoly Shafts
TF HD Diff Covers
Barmanvarn is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-21-2013, 02:46 PM   #3
Jeeper
 
ChasUGC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,502
Images: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by justin-branam View Post
I am slowly upgrading my sound system. I got a JVC Arsenal head unit, put 4 of the 5-1/4" Kicker 40CS54 speakers, and just ordered a Kicker 10 CVT65 sub to replace the stock one.

Next up is amps. I figured I would start with the 4 speakers, since bass isn't a big concern of mine, but volume is. I wanted something small so I can try to hide it behind the dash, but good quality. I came across the Clarion, and at 4x50w RMS, it seems like it would match my speakers (2-75w RMS) quite nicely.

Has anyone used this amp and have any suggestions, or should I just wait a little longer and get a 5 channel that will power the sub as well? If so, any recommendations on a nicely priced 5 channel amp?
It seems like you are going to build a system around the stock subwoofer, which has a stock amp. I don't really see the point of adding an additional sub amp, if you are going to use the stock powered subwoofer. You would probably just end up overpowering it, and blowing it out.

I went a different route but I didn't have to consider the stock 6.5" subwoofer. Tapping into the stock sub amp, has been done too. Everything looks good for your chosen setup.

But, you didn't list the model number of the Clarion amp. I would be concerned as to whether it is a 2ohm amp, powering 4ohm speakers.

Others may correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you'll get half of the power if it is a 2 ohm amp connected to 4ohm speakers.
ChasUGC is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-21-2013, 04:04 PM   #4
Commercial Member

WF Supporting Member
 
justin-branam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: NW Houston, Texas
Posts: 194
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChasUGC View Post
It seems like you are going to build a system around the stock subwoofer, which has a stock amp. I don't really see the point of adding an additional sub amp, if you are going to use the stock powered subwoofer. You would probably just end up overpowering it, and blowing it out.

But, you didn't list the model number of the Clarion amp. I would be concerned as to whether it is a 2ohm amp, powering 4ohm speakers.

Others may correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you'll get half of the power if it is a 2 ohm amp connected to 4ohm speakers.
I had a stock subwoofer and blew it. Unfortunately I tossed the whole box. Anyways, bought a new stock enclosure, and ordered the Kicker sub I mentioned. I will be powering it with the stock amp for now, which is underrated for the sub.

The clarion amp I am reffering to is the XC1410, and it is rated at 50 watts RMS x 4 at 4 ohms (75 watts RMS x 4 at 2 ohms). The speaker I have are rated for 2-75 watts RMS and are 4-ohm, so I should be fine in that aspect.

I guess my main concern, is should I go ahead with this smaller amp for the component speakers and run a separate one to replace the stock sub amp, or is there a good 5 channel amp that I can power all of them with?

Here is the link to the Clarion I was referring to, and as you can see, it is very small: http://www.crutchfield.com/p_020XC14....html?tp=35782
__________________
Plastix Plus LLC - Jeep Products High Lift Jack Plates JK Secure Rear Storage

Call Justin at 281-469-3451 or PM me for Wrangler Forum discounts!!!
justin-branam is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-21-2013, 04:52 PM   #5
Jeeper
 
ChasUGC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,502
Images: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by justin-branam View Post
I guess my main concern, is should I go ahead with this smaller amp for the component speakers and run a separate one to replace the stock sub amp, or is there a good 5 channel amp that I can power all of them with?
You have an improved stock sub, and I wouldn't try to over-power it, and risk blowing it out. You seem to have a good set of components, chosen to upgrade the stock system, around an upgraded stock subwoofer.

If you go with a 5-channel 75watt amp, you will have a 300watt sub, and you really can't take advantage of the additional sub power with a 150watt RMS subwoofer. So, it would be a waste of money.

You've chosen to build your system around the stock subwoofer. You upgraded it, and upgraded the speakers with an upgraded amp. I think you've done this best that you can, in going the route that you have chosen.

I probably would have done this too, if I had the stock subwoofer. If you find yourself having to push that subwoofer a little more, the upgraded subwoofer should be able to handle it. Maybe consider the Clarion 7-band EQ for fine tuning, and built-in sub channel adjustment. It will fit into the 1/2 din slot left by the single din stereo and it only costs around $50. This will allow you to really focus that sub-bass, in case it is a little weak, and, allow optimium adjustment of the fidelity on those Kicker speakers, especially in the mid-range area, to bring out the vocals. Most stereo's only have bass and treble, and you want to stay away from the built-in stereo presets because, they kick-in the built-in stereo amp, and add distortion at high levels, which can damage or blow out most any speakers.

The Clarion adds 2-treble bands, 3-midrange bands, 2-bass bands, and has very low Total Harmonic Distortion(THD). Combined with the subwoofer control and your internal stereo bass control, you can really push that bass and sub-bass to clipping levels. But, back off at that point and don't allow it to clip, and you should be fine.
ChasUGC is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-22-2013, 05:59 AM   #6
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 343
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChasUGC View Post
Others may correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you'll get half of the power if it is a 2 ohm amp connected to 4ohm speakers.
You are correct. That means the sub will maybe get 25 - 35 watts or so from the stock amp. That's not enough.
Mattk11 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-22-2013, 01:27 PM   #7
Jeeper
 
ChasUGC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,502
Images: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattk11 View Post
You are correct. That means the sub will maybe get 25 - 35 watts or so from the stock amp. That's not enough.
Thank you. It seems that Clarion is rating the amp at 75watts @2ohms, and 50watts @ 4ohms. So, this might be correct. The OP didn't initially say whether it was a 2ohm or 4ohm rating. He later included the ohm rating. Thanks again for the confirmation.

ChasUGC is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:55 PM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC