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Old 03-17-2011, 01:45 PM   #1
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Kick Panels vs. In-Dash Speakers

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It's time to upgrade the sound system of my *manual* 06 Rubi. I really don't need a boomer- I simply want to have premium sound from MY seat. I have been to a couple custom audio shops in town and they presented a couple ideas, the 1st guy telling me he'd make custom fiberglass kick panels and bypass the dash (in addition to new sound bar speakers and an 8" sub). The 2nd guy had said that in-dash would be better b/c the kicks would get in the way of my feet, and that the FIRST guy prob wanted to make them b/c it's such a PITA to get the dash speakers out. I'm not sure which one to believe. What do you think?

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Old 03-18-2011, 11:42 PM   #2
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I think the guy wanting to make the fiberglass kick panels for your jeep wants your money. I had a guy tell me the same thing. I have been into car audio longer than he has been alive. I just laughed at him and shook my head. I replaced my stock dash speakers with Infinity Perfect Kappa 5.1 5 1/4' component speakers and used a speaker adaptor plate that can be purchased or fabricated. I mounted the tweeters in the a pillars about 6-8" above the dash. I went with a custom built enclosure from Ron at just4effect.com. The company has changed hands, but i hear the product is the same. I am running a single Memphis Audio 10" Sub woofer in the enclosure and it is powered by a JL Audio 500/1 Sub amp bridged at 2ohms. I am running the Infinity's and the MB Quart 6 1/2" coaxials with a JL Audio 300/4 v2. The system is loud and clear. I have to admit, I am a bass head. Good luck with your system.

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Old 03-21-2011, 02:42 PM   #3
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Thanks for the advice. It sounds like you have a pretty sweet setup. I wish I could show you mine to see what you think. I ended up getting a kenwood HU and a system with 2 tweets on the front window bars, 4x6 pioneers in the dash, 5.25 alpines above, and 2 10" JL subs in the back running off a 500?/4 Alpine with dedicated sub channel. The sound is pretty good, super crisp with deep responsive lows, but I have to say that even with the top and doors on it's just seems like it's missing that low midrange/midbass. Will I get any of that back if I replace the 4x6 with 5.25 and the 5.25 with 6.5? And can 6.5's be put in the '06 stock sound "pods" and still keep the stock look?
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:44 PM   #4
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No matter what, kicks will sound and image better....but, its a jeep, its not a soundroom and never will be. I might make some for mine when I do it, but I'd never try to sway a customer to do it since 90 percent of the people who own jeeps are not audiophiles
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:59 PM   #5
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Ouch. Oh well. I played bass/guitar in rock and classic bands for 7 years, and music is my go to release. I'd love a perfect system in my jeep, and was willing to pay extra to get close to it, but I realize that at the end of the day it's still a jeep and not a showroom. I know what you're saying about the imaging- the soundbar pods aren't ideal at all. I stuffed them with polyfill to try to deepen the frequency range. Would putting some dynamat-like material inside the pods make much of a difference?
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Not really man, the quality of the speaker/amp/signal will make the most difference. When I said audiophile, basically I meant the people who spend thousands of dollars to be able to not only be able to pick a pindrop out of a recording, but be able to tell you at what height it was dropped from That group of people wouldnt be caught dead in a jeep....I am pretty bad, but not that bad.
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Gotcha. Yeah, I love music, but I don't meet those criteria What do you think about the dash/soundbar pod setup with 5.25/6.5's instead of 4x6/5.25's to go with the 2 10" subs- will it throw the sound balance of my system off or do you think it would fill in the sound better?
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IMHO the sound bar is useless for trying to recreate a sound stage in a Jeep. The only thing it is good for is playing music for the passengers and bystanders when the top is down. It has no imaging benefit whatsoever. I mostly fade mine out when It is just me in the Jeep. I know it's only a Jeep and not a sound studio, but I hate the music playing right in my left ear. Ouch!
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What volume is your speaker box and is it sealed or ported?
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It's sealed, not sure what volume. I ordered one from CJ at just4effect.com, a single 10" trunk-style box, fiberglassed and covered in black carpet. I'm pretty excited, but I know it'll be a few weeks before it gets here. I also decided to try to custom build my own fiberglass kicks whenever my speakers get here. We'll see how that goes...
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Oh, to explain a bit, I was all excited about my new jeep and rushed into things, and the guy I went with ended up ripping me off big time for the speakers I got. He was real unprofessional and manipulative too. I ended up going back to get my money and return the stuff, and now it's a DIY project.
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I've been installing stereos and building boxes as a hobby for almost 20 years usually getting paid with a 12 pack per job. I've found that bandpass boxes, which is what it sounds you were talking about with the plexiglass are really boomy but shallow in frequency response. Ported boxes hit deep bass well but are sloppy with higher bass (also require a larger box). I've always preferred a sealed box for sound quality, and I always try to stay with the lower range of recommended volume as per the speakers recommended enclosure size. By staying with the lower volume box you take less space in the vehicle, have tighter bass, but takes just a little more power from your amp to power the sub to it's full potential. Hope this helps...
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Old 04-05-2011, 07:24 AM   #13
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Oh no, by fiberglass I mean that the whole box is covered in fiberless for waterproofing. It will be a sealed box with a downfiring sub. And I wish a custom box would only cost me a 12-pack or two. Need some beer?
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If you were nearby I could definitely give you a hand. I'm still in designing phase to build a wood/fiberglass sealed box to fit on rear driver side wheel well for a JL 8w3. The 2 doors have no room so I'm forced to get a little creative here, need back space for the dog and occasional temporary freedom top storage. I guess the reason for the "design phase" still is because I haven't found the motivation to crawl in the back seat and get started.
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Go on desertgoose, get back there and get to work. Summer is a coming.
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Ok, you guys obviously know more about stereo systems than me...so do most guys here! If you don't mind and audio-idiot hijacking here...

My daughters and I are building a yj. We have an alpine amp and stereo (?model/etc.) and a 3 way sound bar from the previous owner. We are building a cage so the sound bar won't work. I had planned on making 2 smaller overhead mounts like mini-soundbars and remounting the 6 speakers. We have the option of the dash speaker locations (but not much room to get in there as the dash is back together, and have looked at the speaker pods that mount in front of the shifters. I also thought about mounting speakers over the rear wheel wells. We're not looking for concert quality, just decent sound that is audible in a top down jeep. Any advice options would be greatly appreciated.

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