Looking for some feedback on a new TJ Navigation and Multimedia entertainment unit
Hey, all. Firstly, to make sure I'm not violating any of the terms of this message board I want to be clear that I'm not selling anything.
That being said, I am involved in a company that is going to be releasing a new navigation and multimedia head unit made specifically for late model TJ's. We will not be selling directly to consumers.
I'm going to intentionally omit any links to the company web site per the guidance of the forum moderators.
The TJ1001 from Insane Audio is designed for a 2004-2007 Jeep Liberty (KJ) or a 2003-2006 Wrangler (TJ) but it will likely fit a number of other Jeep, Dodge and Chrysler models.
I'm interested in feedback from those in this forum to help pass some input back to the development team. The product is expected to be available this summer!
I attached a couple of pics (sorry if they're a little blurry)
Any feedback you've got would be greatly appreciated. Let us know what you like or what you don't. The bottom line is that we are trying to create a product that is a perfect fit for a late model TJ dash with full navigation and multimedia functionality.
I've got a prototype unit in my Jeep (a modified '06 Rubicon Unlimited) and I have to admit, this thing is bad-a$$.
Here is a summary of some of the key features taken off the web site....
PREMIUM 3D NAVIGATION
Includes all software and the guaranteed latest maps of the good 'ol US of A. Turn by turn directions, POI's, 2D mode, 3D mode, digital speedometer and trip display, and much more. Unlike some navigation units on the market, the TJ1001 also lets you listen to music while using the GPS.
FULLY INTEGRATED 4.3 INCH HIGH RESOLUTION DIGITAL TOUCH SCREEN DISPLAY
Watch HD movies with crystal clarity.
MICRO-SD CARD SLOT
With a MicroSD port right in the front of the head unit, you can store 32 gigs of movies and music right in your Jeep. That's likely enough storage to hold every album you've ever owned. Unlike a hard drive, the SD card has no moving parts and no skipping when you're on the trail.
The TJ1001 has a USB port right in the front of the unit so you can also play movies or music right off of your thumb drive.
From movies, to music to photo albums. If it's burned on a disc, odds are that the TJ1001 can play it. The DVD player also supports multiple subtitles, angles, zoom and speed settings.
INTEGRATED BLUETOOTH PHONE SUPPORT
Drive safe and avoid tickets. The TJ1001 has full bluetooth phone support with a built-in microphone and exceptional audio quality.
Full bluetooth audio support. Control media on your smartphone, or wirelessly stream Pandora internet radio. The TJ1001 has you covered.
ONBOARD DIGITAL TELEVISION
That's right. The TJ1001 even has a built-in ATSC-M digital TV tuner. Right in the dash of your Jeep.
EXCEPTIONAL AUDIO QUALITY
The TJ1001 has a 4x45 watt high power amplifier built-in with exceptional audio quality. Just plug it into your stock wiring harness and your existing factory speakers or factory premium sound system will sound like they've never sounded before. Pre-amp outputs are there if you want to use your own aftermarket setup. Either way, the TJ1001 is ready to rock.
STRONG ELECTRONICS SHOCK PROTECTION
The TJ1001 is designed specifically by Jeepers for Jeepers. It's built tough and ready for the trail.
FULL FUNCTION REMOTE CONTROL
Comes in handy when you want control from the back seats.
30 presets to store your favorite stations.
The TJ1001 even comes with an ipod cable and everything you need to plug in your ipod and control your music collection from the touch screen display.
PLENTY OF INPUTS AND OUTPUTS
RCA audio and video outputs, RCA audio and video inputs and even a rearview camera input are located at the rear of the unit.
PERFECT FIT FOR YOUR DASH
The TJ1001 is a perfect fit for your dash and will look like it came straight from the factory. Installation is simple and a wiring harness is included so you can simply plug and play.
If this is truly developed "by Jeepers for Jeepers", then it needs to add real off-road functionality...like maps that actually show trails rather than the next freeway offramp. The only maps that currently meet that requirement are the USGS topo maps...the standard by which all maps are judged. If you want to see what a navigation system for Jeepers looks like, check out the Garmin Montana 600. In addition to genuine USGS maps and a good-sized touch screen, the Montana 600 also supports detailed satellite imagery that has, for me, proven to be absolutely invaluable out on the trails...especially at night.
All of the multimedia stuff is just fluff. The current Jeep head units and quite a few aftermarket units already support USB or have hard-drive capabilities. I have over 100 albums currently on a thumb drive that is substantially smaller than my thumbnail...with room left for another 200 albums. It only sticks out about an eighth of an inch from the USB port in the center console.
A true nav system for Jeepers would enable off-road routes to be uploaded and followed, tracklogging and backtracking, and as I already stated, would be capable of displaying USGS maps and satellite imagery. Anything less than that, and it's simply another nav system for mall crawlers.
I've taught land navigation skills to one of the country's busiest search and rescue groups for more than 20 years. I've used countless GPS and in dash nav units. I have yet to see a single in-dash unit that even comes close to being as functional off-road as a simple handheld GPS. If you want to make a ton of money, design something that works as well off-road as it does on pavement. And you might even save some lives in the process.
That's good feedback. I'll pass it back to the software team. I know they've been looking at adding on some simple route tracking for off-road use (so you can at least track where you've been when you keep taking random forks on the trail) but I don't know if anyone has suggested USGS topo maps. I'll let you know what they say...
With respect to multimedia, it's worth noting that at present there are no real options for a TJ dash. In the past, folks have had to settle for the RB1 (which is a joke), build a custom glass dash to house a double DIN unit (cool but a lot of work) or install one of those flimsy flip out single-DIN units that last about two minutes on the trail. The TJ1001 is not only a perfect fit for a TJ dash, but it's got more features and functionality then anything else on the market.
It's also worth noting that hard drives are are 57 year old technology. They have motors, heads, cylinders and magnetic media. They break down, they skip, they crash and they loose data. You also can't take a hard drive out and plug it into a computer to transfer files. SD cards are far superior. Quite frankly, I don't understand why the MyGiG on the new JK's come with internal hard drives in this day and age. Especially in a Jeep of all places. We put a built-in SD card slot in the TJ1001 as well as a USB thumb drive port. I prefer the SD slot so there isn't a thumb drive sticking out of my dash when I'm bouncing around on the trail.
How does the satellite imagery work on the Garmin Montana 600? Does it need an internet connection or do you pre-load the device before going out on the trail?
Internet connection is only necessary to pre-load the maps and imagery. I have about half of Utah and half of Colorado (both USGS maps and satellite imagery) currently loaded into mine (on the MicroSD card)...with room for a lot more. Mine is set to display the USGS maps when viewing wide-angle, but it automatically switches to the satellite imagery when I zoom in closer. I can then see individual boulders, trees, etc. If I'm taking an unfamiliar trail, I will create a route in Nat Geo Topo and load it into the GPS. The route is simply drawn freehand on the map in the Nat Geo program...and the program converts it to a route with as many waypoints as I specify. The line designating the route is then overlaid on the maps and satellite imagery in the gps. Just keep the Jeep on the line. The Nat Geo program also uses USGS maps.
The basic route tracking you are talking about is great if you are returning the way you came...but doesn't do a lot of good if the end of the trail is someplace other than where you started.
For a double din stereo, with serious video such as TV/DVD, I would go with a 7" touch screen and eliminate all those unneeded buttons. Almost everything except power on, can be controlled via the touch screen. Also, you aren't taking into account theft prevention. A detachable face is a must in this high crime rate economy.
If you went to a 7 inch touch screen, it could be detachable, leaving nothing to steal but an inoperable box.
I would also consider making US, Mexico and Canada maps standard, with the option for European maps. Then, also off road navigation. This would be totally unique, although my single din GPS stereo does have US, Canada, and Mexico maps standard.
I would also consider a 64 gig SD card, instead of the standard 32gig SD card. Make this stereo unique and a step up from the competitors.
I don't even see an AUX in on the front panel. Stereo's today must have USB and AUX in, for cell phones.
A lot of Stereo's today also have App support for Pandora, Waze, GoPro, Google Search, and Banking Account Apps.
Back up camera support is missing too. A lot of stereo's have them.
Then, I would have the option to use different and custom background wallpaper on the video interface. Maybe even button color change options to match different wallpaper themes.
Most, but not all, of these options are available with other double din stereos.
The question is, are you trying to make an awesome unique stereo, better than any of the top stereo competitors, or just doing what the top competitors have already done and less?
What is going to separate this stereo from Pioneer, Clarion, Alpine, and Kenwood?
So far, I'm seeing that those competitors have done it way better. Why would I buy this?
Hi, ChasUGC. You appear to be a little misinformed about our product. You may want to check out Insane Audio for more info.
Firstly, this is a 1.5 DIN unit made to fit PERFECTLY in the dash of a late model TJ. (see the pics above) This is not a generic double DIN unit (that won't fit)
Secondly, not only are we the ONLY full-function nav and multimedia unit that fits late model TJ's, but we have WAY more features and functionality then any double DIN unit out there. We have multiple USB inputs, aux inputs, MULTIPLE camera inputs (including rearview + aux), on-board SD card, Bluetooth telephone AND audio (you can stream pandora, etc), built-in ATSC-M digital television, etc, etc, etc...
When it comes to the GPS, Insane NavEngine rocks. It's got on and offroad functionality and even includes a bunch of trail maps pre-loaded. The maps contain full 3D topography overlays and you can go online and get maps for just about anywhere in the world (along with other cool features such as 3D cityscapes, points of interest, etc)
The bottom line is that the TJ1001 is the best thing for a TJ since sway bar disconnects and lockers. Check it out when you have a moment.
I assumed by the size, it was Double Din. If you say it is 1-1/2 Din, I think it has more options than ANY 1-1/2 din stereo that I have seen. I would still like to see an Aux-in port. I personally would not buy a stereo without Aux-In. It is a standard port in this growing technology.
I also would not buy any stereo without a removable face too. If it has all those awesome options, but without a removable face, it just makes it more attractive to a car stereo thieves.
Thief says,"Wow! Yeah, that looks great. I wonder how much I'm going to get for it."
(Thief wipes drool from his mouth)